Dixie, what seperates what McVeigh wanted from what you want...?

[Jarod]

REmember when you said Id get a bulliet in my scull?>

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

REmember when you said Id get a bulliet in my scull?>

I never said you'd get a bullet in your skull.

I will tell you this, if you think Americans are going to sit on their hands and allow Communist Socialists to take over America, either because of indifference or because you hurl insults at them, you are a fool.

At this point, we still have the ballot box, and we can still change who is running our country and the policies they implement. If we come to a time where that is no longer possible, you can fully expect an armed revolt, the likes of which this nation hasn't seen, even during the Civil War. If the left continues to ram their Socialist policies down our throat against our will, it is going to come back to haunt you in a big way. That's not a threat, that is reality.

 

[Socrtease]

You say ramming down our throat. I don't like the healthcare bill but EVERY SINGLE PERSON that voted in the house and the senate to pass it was elected to office. After that, they are not required to do what the majority in their district want or demand. They can vote how they see fit. If the people don't like that they can vote agin'em in 2 4 or 6 years depending on when they got elected. That is what seperates us from a democracy. If you want the will of the masses listened to all the time then we need to undo our form of government and be run by the demos. That should please everyone.

 

[Topspin]

Mcveigh had balls, Dixie just talks shit. Other than getting his cousin pregnant he's harmless.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Mcveigh had balls, Dixie just talks shit. Other than getting his cousin pregnant he's harmless.

It doesn't take 'balls' to ram a truck full of explosives into a building of innocent workers. It takes cowardice. The same as the suicide bombers in the middle east.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It doesn't take 'balls' to ram a truck full of explosives into a building of innocent workers. It takes cowardice. The same as the suicide bombers in the middle east.

had to retract this statement on account of failing to see who said it.

my bad SF

 

[Topspin]

It certainly takes more balls than the malitia tea baggers taLking shit here.

 

[Damocles]

What separates them?

1. The willingness to kill innocents and children.
2. The willingness to attack rather than defend.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You say ramming down our throat. I don't like the healthcare bill but EVERY SINGLE PERSON that voted in the house and the senate to pass it was elected to office. After that, they are not required to do what the majority in their district want or demand. They can vote how they see fit. If the people don't like that they can vote agin'em in 2 4 or 6 years depending on when they got elected. That is what seperates us from a democracy. If you want the will of the masses listened to all the time then we need to undo our form of government and be run by the demos. That should please everyone.

You saw what happened with HCR as well as I did, if you want to stick your head up Democrat ass and pretend something "democratic" happened, that's your business.

They literally outright BRIBED people to vote in favor of it, against the will of their constituents. A huge chunk of supporting votes came from politicians who are "retiring" after this term, so it doesn't matter, the people will never have the chance to voice their displeasure at the ballot box against them. And then, there were the people they duped and lied to, in order to get the few extra votes they needed to pass it, with ZERO bipartisan support!

This wasn't "representative government" and it wasn't "democratic government" it was outright FRAUD, and the perpetrators, if they were working in the private sector, would be looking at prison time for what they pulled. But you go right ahead and suck up to the Democrats some more, I am sure they love it, and I am sure you get your thrills as well. You make a good fucking pair!

 

[apple0154]

A huge chunk of supporting votes came from politicians who are "retiring" after this term, so it doesn't matter...

That should tell you they did what they thought was best for the country as they had nothing to gain or lose.

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You saw what happened with HCR as well as I did, if you want to stick your head up Democrat ass and pretend something "democratic" happened, that's your business.

They literally outright BRIBED people to vote in favor of it, against the will of their constituents. A huge chunk of supporting votes came from politicians who are "retiring" after this term, so it doesn't matter, the people will never have the chance to voice their displeasure at the ballot box against them. And then, there were the people they duped and lied to, in order to get the few extra votes they needed to pass it, with ZERO bipartisan support!

This wasn't "representative government" and it wasn't "democratic government" it was outright FRAUD, and the perpetrators, if they were working in the private sector, would be looking at prison time for what they pulled. But you go right ahead and suck up to the Democrats some more, I am sure they love it, and I am sure you get your thrills as well. You make a good fucking pair!

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

That should tell you they did what they thought was best for the country as they had nothing to gain or lose.

No, they did what was best for the party against the vocal opposition of their constituents, because it didn't matter what the voters thought, since they didn't have to get re-elected.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

They literally outright BRIBED people to vote in favor of it, against the will of their constituents.

1. It was removed from the final bill.

2. I assure you, pork isn't against the will of the constituents


Fucking retard.

 

[apple0154]

No, they did what was best for the party against the vocal opposition of their constituents, because it didn't matter what the voters thought, since they didn't have to get re-elected.

Why would they do what's best for the party? What's in it for them? Why wouldn't they do what they felt was the right thing to do which, by the way, was the right thing to do.

 

[Damocles]

Why would they do what's best for the party? What's in it for them? Why wouldn't they do what they felt was the right thing to do which, by the way, was the right thing to do.

Nice lobbyist positions (these people won't even go "home" to live amongst the constituency they so angered), some will get jobs in the Administration (that one will be interesting to watch). They did it "for the party" and "for the pocketbook"... Some did it for the "family" as their sons or daughters were hired into mid-range bureaucracies at over 100K per year...

It takes deliberate blinders to ignore what happened, thankfully only about 37% of the nation are willing to wear those, either for Bush or for Obama.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Why would they do what's best for the party? What's in it for them? Why wouldn't they do what they felt was the right thing to do which, by the way, was the right thing to do.

Let me put it to you like this.... Pretend you are a Democrat congressman... Your constituents are clearly indicating they oppose the HCR bill and want you to vote against it. You are planning to do so, but the Democrat leadership approaches you, and they say... Apple, we have a proposition... If you vote FOR the bill, we will take care of you! You'll be given a cushy job in the administration, or some money may find its way into your personal bank account... wonderful things are going to happen for you! And Apple, if you DON'T vote for the bill, we will go out of our way to destroy your career and leave you looking for a job, if you can avoid prison...we have friends in the Justice Department who can make that happen. So, Apple... it's up to you... Support it, and live the good life, or oppose it, and pay the price... what'll it be?

And YOU may think it was the "right thing to do" but the vast and overwhelming majority of your fellow Americans completely disagree with you.... does that matter to you in the least? I can tell you what is going to happen... in 2013, the HCR bill will be repealed by a majority Republican congress and administration, and we will have wasted billions of dollars trying to implement something we will have to scrap. Now, I almost wish this wasn't the case, and this wasn't going to happen, because I would really like to see it play out, and for you to have to face the music of how utterly WRONG you are. This is NOT a good thing for Americans, for America, or for health care in the US. And it's not one of those wishy-washy kinda bad, kinda good things, like NAFTA, that we can probably live with... it is CATASTROPHIC bad! You are just too much of a Socialist idiot to understand that.

 

[Taichiliberal]

I never said you'd get a bullet in your skull.

I will tell you this, if you think Americans are going to sit on their hands and allow Communist Socialists to take over America, either because of indifference or because you hurl insults at them, you are a fool.

At this point, we still have the ballot box, and we can still change who is running our country and the policies they implement. If we come to a time where that is no longer possible, you can fully expect an armed revolt, the likes of which this nation hasn't seen, even during the Civil War. If the left continues to ram their Socialist policies down our throat against our will, it is going to come back to haunt you in a big way. That's not a threat, that is reality.

Get a dictionary, look up socialism, capitalism, communism, fascism, democracy

Then you can explain how the elections in 2008 were un-democratic, and maybe you can point out EXACTLY what is "communistic" about the current administration...especially since it expanded to a degree the right of gun ownership in the country.

Of course, since jokers like you will defend the major policies of the Shrub & company to death, you might want to explain how the "communistic" current administration that has continued many of it's predecessors policies is suddenly evil? Unless, of course, you're willing to condem the previous administration as well.

And since any form of socialism is so abhorent to your and those who think like you, then you'll of course be returning those two stimulus checks the Shrub cut for you....and you'll be partitioning to be removed from Social Security and use what was accured for you as a lump sum deposit now. And of course you'll be advocating for a crackdown and prosecution of all the financial institutions that your personal income bailed out (socialism, you know)..and that means laying blame to the people in charge from 2001-2008.

Oh, and by the by....since no one is talking about taking away your vote or guns, all your Civil War envoking BS is just that....BS. Bottom line: the "liberals" stopped a war without the threat of violence.....Ghandi led a movement that REMOVED a colonial gov't and changed the course of his country without the threat of violence. Maybe folk like you just don't have the stones or brains to follow suit.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Get a dictionary, look up socialism, capitalism, communism, fascism, democracy

Then you can explain how the elections in 2008 were un-democratic, and maybe you can point out EXACTLY what is "communistic" about the current administration...especially since it expanded to a degree the right of gun ownership in the country.

Of course, since jokers like you will defend the major policies of the Shrub & company to death, you might want to explain how the "communistic" current administration that has continued many of it's predecessors policies is suddenly evil? Unless, of course, you're willing to condem the previouse administration as well.

And since any form of socialism is so abhorent to your and those who think like you, then you'll of course be returning those two stimulus checks the Shrub cut for you....and you'll be partitioning to be removed from Social Security and use what was accured for you as a lump sum deposit now. And of course you'll be advocating for a crackdown and prosecution of all the financial institutions that your personal income bailed out (socialism, you know)..and that means laying blame to the people in charge from 2001-2008.

Oh, and by the by....since no one is talking about taking away your vote or guns, all your Civil War envoking BS is just that....BS.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm]
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

ALL apply to the policies of Barack Hussein Obama.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Get a dictionary, look up socialism, capitalism, communism, fascism, democracy

Then you can explain how the elections in 2008 were un-democratic, and maybe you can point out EXACTLY what is "communistic" about the current administration...especially since it expanded to a degree the right of gun ownership in the country.

Of course, since jokers like you will defend the major policies of the Shrub & company to death, you might want to explain how the "communistic" current administration that has continued many of it's predecessors policies is suddenly evil? Unless, of course, you're willing to condem the previous administration as well.

And since any form of socialism is so abhorent to your and those who think like you, then you'll of course be returning those two stimulus checks the Shrub cut for you....and you'll be partitioning to be removed from Social Security and use what was accured for you as a lump sum deposit now. And of course you'll be advocating for a crackdown and prosecution of all the financial institutions that your personal income bailed out (socialism, you know)..and that means laying blame to the people in charge from 2001-2008.

Oh, and by the by....since no one is talking about taking away your vote or guns, all your Civil War envoking BS is just that....BS. Bottom line: the "liberals" stopped a war without the threat of violence.....Ghandi led a movement that REMOVED a colonial gov't and changed the course of his country without the threat of violence. Maybe folk like you just don't have the stones or brains to follow suit.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsoʊʃəˌlɪzəm]
–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

ALL apply to the policies of Barack Hussein Obama.

You'll note that you have to subscribe to the Marxist THEORY of socialism in order to buy into the formula of socialism = communism. To date, countries like England, Sweden, etc., have incorporated socialism to a degree for DECADES, and have NOT turned communist.

And you have YET to provide PROOF that Obama has a "policy" of socialism=communism. Because since our Constitution gives the power of the gov't to regulate commerce, that would mean we've been on your dreaded downslide for 236 years! So all the whining and bullshit from defeated Republicans and insurance lobbies about healthcare reform is just that.... whining and bullshit.

Okay, let's see how you fare addressing the rest of my points in the previous post.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You'll note that you have to subscribe to the Marxist THEORY of socialism in order to buy into the formula of socialism = communism. To date, countries like England, Sweden, etc., have incorporated socialism to a degree for DECADES, and have NOT turned communist.

And you have YET to provide PROOF that Obama has a "policy" of socialism=communism. Because since our Constitution gives the power of the gov't to regulate commerce, that would mean we've been on your dreaded downslide for 236 years! So all the whining and bullshit from defeated Republicans and insurance lobbies about healthcare reform is just that.... whining and bullshit.

Okay, let's see how you fare addressing the rest of my points in the previous post.

Shut up retard, I posted the goddamn dictionary definition and anyone with half a fucking brain can see that is FITS EXACTLY with this administration's agenda! You want to try and twist and distort the facts and divert the conversation because I just schooled your ass sideways, and you can't handle it! So you just keep right on blathering your mindless nonsense and pretending you've made a point... the only point is on top of your empty PINHEAD!

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

You say ramming down our throat. I don't like the healthcare bill but EVERY SINGLE PERSON that voted in the house and the senate to pass it was elected to office. After that, they are not required to do what the majority in their district want or demand. They can vote how they see fit. If the people don't like that they can vote agin'em in 2 4 or 6 years depending on when they got elected. That is what seperates us from a democracy. If you want the will of the masses listened to all the time then we need to undo our form of government and be run by the demos. That should please everyone.

I think direct democracy would just force all of us to realize the we hate each other.