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Tax Increases Are On the Way For Higher-Income Americans
Published: Tuesday, 2 Feb 2010 * 1:02 PM ET Text Size By: Mark Koba
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Larger tax bills are coming for higher-income Americans, if President Obama has his way.

For individuals making $200,000 and up and couples making $250,000 or more a year, they will see their taxes increase in 2011, unless Congress votes to keep the George W. Bush era cuts in place.

In his budget released Monday, Obama said he wanted to let the Bush cuts sunset at the end of 2010, as they are scheduled to do, in order to help cut the bulging deficit.

This would raise the top two income tax rates from 33 percent to 36 percent and from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. The government would reportedly take in $365 billion over the next decade from those increases.

While there's a lot of uncertainty over Obama's budget in Congress, experts say it's pretty clear that the Bush tax cuts will be ending.

"I don't see the Republicans putting up much of a fight to keep the cuts," says Bridget Crawford, professor of law at Pace University. "Obama will be accused of being a big spender but he's just rolling back what was temporary anyway."

Temporary or not, those getting hit by the taxes are not going to like it much, says Ted Lanzaro, a CPA in Connecticut who runs his own accounting firm.

"It's almost crazy to say that people in the higher income levels can't afford it, but paying more taxes at any level is not fun," says Lanzaro. "People ask 'who am I working for, me or the government?' Besides, living in a big city like New York is not cheap, even at the higher income levels."

How much would the tax increase be? That depends on the paycheck—more income means higher taxes.

For example, a couple filing a joint married return that made $250,000 would pay roughly $60,200 this year in federal taxes. Next year, it would go up to about $61,150. For a couple making $400,000 a year, they would pay roughly $76,000 in taxes in 2010 but pay around $78,800 in 2011—an increase of $1,800.

Besides the tax increase on higher incomes, Obama's budget plan for 2011 calls for:

—A limit on the itemized tax deductions high earners can claim for charitable donations, mortgage interest and state and local taxes. Taxpayers in the highest brackets would only be able to deduct 28 percent of those items, instead of a percentage equal to their top marginal tax rate.

—An increase in the top capital gains tax rate from 15 percent to 20 percent for families making more than $250,000 a year and individuals making more than $200,000.

Taxpayers are already facing a problem this year—the Alternative Minimum Tax, or AMT. Those subject to the tax will fall to $45,000 for couples filing jointly this year and $35,750 for single filers.

Both sides of the political aisle have said they would take up the issue of adjusting the AMT to inflation. However, that has yet to happen


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But if the Bush tax cuts end, they might actually help some of those caught in the AMT trap says Lanzaro.

"Depending on where you live, and the higher tax rates go, the less the AMT would effect them," says Lanzaro. "The AMT is triggered most often by higher property and state income taxes, not Federal taxes. It could pretty much just even out."

Lower incomes do see some tax cuts in Obama's budget. His plan would extend the Making Work Pay tax credit — $400 for individuals, $800 for a couple filing jointly — through 2011. And he would extend Bush-era tax cuts for families and individuals making less than $200,000.

But in the end, Obama would increase taxes on some businesses and wealthy individuals by a total of about $1.4 trillion over the next decade, starting in 2011.

For tax payers in the higher income brackets, having a good financial advisor might help deal with the increases.

"Those who can afford to get tax advice are usually able to keep their tax bills lower," says Pace University's Crawford. "But for a lot of people in expensive areas, $250,000 is not living high off the hog. No one likes paying more taxes even with a bigger paycheck."

For those targeted by Obama, it may come down to just accepting the inevitable.

"At the end of the day, the tax increases are coming," says Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's. "People in the higher incomes are just going to have to get used to the idea."
 
some of these numbers are sickening, 60k for a family is theft!!!

I agree w/ that sentiment; however, if you look at the net increase, it's pretty insignificant, particularly for that income level.

The fact remains that the "tweeners" still pay too much tax, though. $250K ain't what it used to be, especially in certain parts of the country. People think it's rich, but it isn't.

The top tax rate should be 33%; that should be the goal. No more than one third of your income to the gov't (and that's not counting fees, prop. taxes, etc.)
 
24% effective rate 60/250. if the family is making 250k is 24% really that bad? Whats your effective rate? Mine is prob gonna be around 15% this year.
 
The top rate should be 60% at 2 million a year, 50% at 1 milion a year, 45% at 500k a year, 40% at 250k a year, and then descend at what is the current rate.
 
Tax Increases Are On the Way For Higher-Income Americans
Published: Tuesday, 2 Feb 2010 * 1:02 PM ET Text Size By: Mark Koba
Senior Editor

Larger tax bills are coming for higher-income Americans, if President Obama has his way.

For individuals making $200,000 and up and couples making $250,000 or more a year, they will see their taxes increase in 2011, unless Congress votes to keep the George W. Bush era cuts in place.

In his budget released Monday, Obama said he wanted to let the Bush cuts sunset at the end of 2010, as they are scheduled to do, in order to help cut the bulging deficit.

This would raise the top two income tax rates from 33 percent to 36 percent and from 35 percent to 39.6 percent. The government would reportedly take in $365 billion over the next decade from those increases.

While there's a lot of uncertainty over Obama's budget in Congress, experts say it's pretty clear that the Bush tax cuts will be ending.

"I don't see the Republicans putting up much of a fight to keep the cuts," says Bridget Crawford, professor of law at Pace University. "Obama will be accused of being a big spender but he's just rolling back what was temporary anyway."

Temporary or not, those getting hit by the taxes are not going to like it much, says Ted Lanzaro, a CPA in Connecticut who runs his own accounting firm.

"It's almost crazy to say that people in the higher income levels can't afford it, but paying more taxes at any level is not fun," says Lanzaro. "People ask 'who am I working for, me or the government?' Besides, living in a big city like New York is not cheap, even at the higher income levels."

How much would the tax increase be? That depends on the paycheck—more income means higher taxes.

For example, a couple filing a joint married return that made $250,000 would pay roughly $60,200 this year in federal taxes. Next year, it would go up to about $61,150. For a couple making $400,000 a year, they would pay roughly $76,000 in taxes in 2010 but pay around $78,800 in 2011—an increase of $1,800.

Besides the tax increase on higher incomes, Obama's budget plan for 2011 calls for:

—A limit on the itemized tax deductions high earners can claim for charitable donations, mortgage interest and state and local taxes. Taxpayers in the highest brackets would only be able to deduct 28 percent of those items, instead of a percentage equal to their top marginal tax rate.

—An increase in the top capital gains tax rate from 15 percent to 20 percent for families making more than $250,000 a year and individuals making more than $200,000.

Taxpayers are already facing a problem this year—the Alternative Minimum Tax, or AMT. Those subject to the tax will fall to $45,000 for couples filing jointly this year and $35,750 for single filers.

Both sides of the political aisle have said they would take up the issue of adjusting the AMT to inflation. However, that has yet to happen


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Current DateTime: 09:43:39 02 Feb 2010
LinksList Documentid: 35200184
Obama Budget Attacked by Both PartiesCuts Key To Recovery: Former ComptrollerBudget Deficit to Reach Record $1.6 Trillion
But if the Bush tax cuts end, they might actually help some of those caught in the AMT trap says Lanzaro.

"Depending on where you live, and the higher tax rates go, the less the AMT would effect them," says Lanzaro. "The AMT is triggered most often by higher property and state income taxes, not Federal taxes. It could pretty much just even out."

Lower incomes do see some tax cuts in Obama's budget. His plan would extend the Making Work Pay tax credit — $400 for individuals, $800 for a couple filing jointly — through 2011. And he would extend Bush-era tax cuts for families and individuals making less than $200,000.

But in the end, Obama would increase taxes on some businesses and wealthy individuals by a total of about $1.4 trillion over the next decade, starting in 2011.

For tax payers in the higher income brackets, having a good financial advisor might help deal with the increases.

"Those who can afford to get tax advice are usually able to keep their tax bills lower," says Pace University's Crawford. "But for a lot of people in expensive areas, $250,000 is not living high off the hog. No one likes paying more taxes even with a bigger paycheck."

For those targeted by Obama, it may come down to just accepting the inevitable.

"At the end of the day, the tax increases are coming," says Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's. "People in the higher incomes are just going to have to get used to the idea."

I made about 310,000 last year, I have about 40% put away to pay the taxes with, I hope I dont have to spend it all, but if I do I will.
 
I only make 1/3 what you do and I'm bitter as shit about paying 30 to 40,000 annually.

I am very happy about what I get for my money. My family is protected from enemies forign and domestic. If someone breaks into my house police are there ASAP.

My food is inspected and safe. The products I use are safe. If a natural disaster hits they will be there for me. The roads I use to get to work are good, my clients can get to my office.

The federal and state court houses are run efficently and my clients have access to justice. We (for the most part) have great judges and clerk of courts.

There is plenty more!
 
Alexx, I know there are benefits that every American receives from paying his taxes. The problem is the wasteful spending that is out there. People act like the money the government has they have earned for themselves when in fact they have gleaned it off of (mostly) the hardworking backs of many folks like you and me. I don't begrudge paying for what I receive...you know, the things in your list. I begrudge paying for all the waste that exists in government. It is both parties' fault and we need to weed all the wasteful buggers out.
 
Alexx, I know there are benefits that every American receives from paying his taxes. The problem is the wasteful spending that is out there. People act like the money the government has they have earned for themselves when in fact they have gleaned it off of (mostly) the hardworking backs of many folks like you and me. I don't begrudge paying for what I receive...you know, the things in your list. I begrudge paying for all the waste that exists in government. It is both parties' fault and we need to weed all the wasteful buggers out.

that's exactly my point, income taxes were originally supposed to be temporary. Take a look at congressman's financials, they all get sweetheart land deals once they get in, buy property and then approve projects adjacent to it.
strip their budgets bare and reduce taxes 60%
 
This is why we need a flat tax with a high standard deduction. Eliminate the loopholes and deductions that allow the wealthy to get their effective tax rates below that of people earning less. Make it fair, make it progressive and for damn sure make it simple enough that everyone can understand the tax code. My blog on this site details what I propose for anyone who wishes to read it again.
 
Alexx, I know there are benefits that every American receives from paying his taxes. The problem is the wasteful spending that is out there. People act like the money the government has they have earned for themselves when in fact they have gleaned it off of (mostly) the hardworking backs of many folks like you and me. I don't begrudge paying for what I receive...you know, the things in your list. I begrudge paying for all the waste that exists in government. It is both parties' fault and we need to weed all the wasteful buggers out.

Sure there is waste, but for what I get, what I pay is a bargan...!
 
I belive that income tax is about the least fair way to get income for the government. Id be for doing away with it for a more fair system.

Why tax income, those with income are the ones contributing the most and trying to make better of ourselves.

I dont belive it is perfectly fair, but MUCH MORE fair than taxing income would be an estate tax.
 
This is why we need a flat tax with a high standard deduction. Eliminate the loopholes and deductions that allow the wealthy to get their effective tax rates below that of people earning less. Make it fair, make it progressive and for damn sure make it simple enough that everyone can understand the tax code. My blog on this site details what I propose for anyone who wishes to read it again.

You can make a progressive tax simple as well. When given the choice between simply adding a tax bracket higher for the rich and raising taxes on the working class, like a flat tax would require, I simply find it difficult to justify.
 
I belive that income tax is about the least fair way to get income for the government. Id be for doing away with it for a more fair system.

Why tax income, those with income are the ones contributing the most and trying to make better of ourselves.

I dont belive it is perfectly fair, but MUCH MORE fair than taxing income would be an estate tax.

I don't know what the fairest system would be. I have always felt strongly that the gov't shouldn't take more than a third of someone's income; maybe that's an arbitrary cutoff, but it makes sense to me.

As for the estate tax, I think you have to be careful. While I agree that having no estate tax ultimately leads to a new aristocracy, I also understand that it's basically immoral to fleece someone who worked their whole life so their kids could have a somewhat easier road.

I don't mind the current system; like everyone, I want to see the code simplified, and as long as they can keep the rates in the 30's, it's fairly reasonable. I just think it would be nice to hear them talking about both attacking the waste that increases the need for tax so much, and also talk about at least trying to keep the tax rates down....
 
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