Higher education is about more than job training: Open

[RB 60]

Couldn’t be anymore more, as usual:

“Education pays”
https://www.bls.gov/careeroutlook/2...Even in the best of,data tell a similar story.

”Benefits of a College Degree“
https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/Pages/10-Benefits-of-a-College-Degree.aspx

”Benefits of Having a College Degree“
https://bachelors-completion.northeastern.edu/news/is-a-bachelors-degree-worth-it/

”The value of a college education“
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2016/10/06/5-the-value-of-a-college-education/

“SevenCompelling Reasons Why You Should Go To College”
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/student-loans/why-should-you-go-to-college/

“The Rising Cost of Not Going to College”
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2014/02/11/the-rising-cost-of-not-going-to-college/

Being a cultist, it is understandable why “pigeon” sees no value in higher education, his Messiah “loves the uneducated,” but no society advances itself when mediocrity is its highest goal

Do you think everyone who hasn't gone to college is "uneducated"? How many of the "uneducated" would you like me to list that have advanced society? Henry Ford developed the assembly line. Pretty good advancement for being one of the "uneducated." He made automobiles affordable for the masses.

 

[BidenPresident]

You are an illiterate idiot.

I gained a better understanding of how to plan out complex jobs and make them achieve goals on time. College wasn't worthless, but it wasn't critical to success either.

troll

 

[BidenPresident]

Not taxpayer money, Sock.

you need to be violently murdered

 

[Flash]

Spoken like a financial challenged idiot.

Juvenile insults don't count as intelligent debate.

 

[Into the Night]

Juvenile insults don't count as intelligent debate.

LIF. Grow up. YOU made the idiotic statement, Dim. This is YOUR problem. You cannot lay YOUR problem on me or anybody else.

 

[Into the Night]

Do you think everyone who hasn't gone to college is "uneducated"?

I think he's made that stupid view plain enough. That's exactly what he thinks!

How many of the "uneducated" would you like me to list that have advanced society?

Henry Ford developed the assembly line. Pretty good advancement for being one of the "uneducated." He made automobiles affordable for the masses.

I also put forth Michael Faraday, the creator of several important chemical processes and the creator of the Theory of Electromagnetism, the heart of power generation to this day.
Then there is Thomas Edison, who basically invented inventing. There are so many inventions to his credit it's too long a list to give here.
Then there is Bill Gates (founder of Microsoft), a college dropout. Same with Steve Balmer, Steve Jobs (who founded Apple and was a cofounder of Pixar).

Every tradesman, farmer, rancher, hunter, etc. are quite educated on their own ground, and no college needed!

So much for this idiot's theory that to be 'educated' or successful, you have to have a degree!

I bet he's stuck working in fast food or as a retail clerk somewhere.

 

[Flash]

LIF. Grow up. YOU made the idiotic statement, Dim. This is YOUR problem. You cannot lay YOUR problem on me or anybody else.

Nobody ever accused you of engaging in intelligent debate. It is either a misapplied fallacy, or "Bulverism" accusations. Nothing that ever involves the topic under discussion.

 

[BidenPresident]

Nobody ever accused you of engaging in intelligent debate. It is either a misapplied fallacy, or "Bulverism" accusations. Nothing that ever involves the topic under discussion.

Keep in mind the thread title was mine originally. This asshole copies it so he can send insults to me. This person is nothing but a troll.

 

[Into the Night]

Nobody ever accused you of engaging in intelligent debate. It is either a misapplied fallacy, or "Bulverism" accusations. Nothing that ever involves the topic under discussion.

No, you don't get away with blaming YOUR problems on anybody else, Dim.

 

[Into the Night]

Keep in mind the thread title was mine originally. This asshole copies it so he can send insults to me. This person is nothing but a troll.

You still haven't figured out that censorship doesn't work, Sock.

 

[RB 60]

You more a fan of dogs playing poker painted on velvet?

Nope.

 

[Nordberg]

ob title National average salary Job growth rate, 2022-32
Ultrasonographer $131,161 per year 10%
Respiratory therapist $104,437 per year 13%
Dental hygienist $99,013 per year 7%
Construction manager $88,319 per year 5%
Aircraft mechanic $82,476 per year 4%
Cable technician $70,714 per year 6%
Industrial mechanic $69,637 per year 13%
Solar installer $69,422 per year 22%
Real estate appraiser $64,075 per year 5%
Electrician $62,739 per year 6%
Licensed practice nurse $59,125 per year 5%
Wind turbine technician $58,005 per year 45%

https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/finding-a-job/highest-paying-trade-jobs

College degree not required.

Not a formal degree but extensive training. For most of them you have to take classes. Some require apprenticeships which take years to get through.

 

[RB 60]

Not a formal degree but extensive training. For most of them you have to take classes. Some require apprenticeships which take years to get through.

Yet you still call us uneducated...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Not a formal degree but extensive training. For most of them you have to take classes. Some require apprenticeships which take years to get through.

Any decent paying job requires some amount of training and skill to do. Today, many, if not most apprenticeship type jobs have the employer or trade union paying for the training. The apprentice gets a job and paycheck while the training is free.

 

[Flash]

No, you don't get away with blaming YOUR problems on anybody else, Dim.

I do not have a problem with fallacies. That is Into the Night and his socks.

 

[Lionfish]

you need to be violently murdered

You are a national treasure. I would love to meet you in person as I have visions in my head.

 

[Walt]

The BidenWannabe is apparently not aware that most liberal arts graduates work in fast food or other minimum wage jobs. Their degree winds up being quite useless.

That is completely false. A liberal arts education is a generalist education that allows people to work in many different fields, not just the fields that the government thinks exist at the beginning. The most important skills it teaches is reading, writing, and researching. I do have to admit it has been falling short in mathematics, but it does teach some mathematics.

There is a reason so many jobs now require a bachelors degree, or at least some college.

Reed college

Reed College taught a class in the arcane art of designing fonts for manual printing presses. A young man named Steve Jobs took the course, and internalized it. Much of a trillion dollar company, and a ten trillion dollar industry is based on that random event. Go ahead tell us how much smarter you are than diversity, and how you can predict a billion people's career plans in some sort of bizarre central planning, WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE WRONG!!!

 

[Walt]

Reed unfortunately has little in engineering, science, or even computer science.

At Reed College the second most popular major is Biology, the third most popular major is Mathematics, the fourth most popular major is Physics.... While not applied, these are extremely useful STEM majors.

 

[Walt]

Liberal arts colleges don't have electives, twit.

It absolutely boggles the mind that you did not know there are electives in liberal arts colleges. I am serious. Of the thousands of demented posts you have posted, this one takes the cake.

In a liberal arts school like Reed, there really is no such thing as electives. Those are in high school, not such a college.

Have you ever been to a college?

 

[Walt]

That depends entirely on their own initiative. Some can be quite successful. Bill Gates, for example, was a college dropout.

Bill Gates felt he had learned a huge amount at Harvard.