Into the Night
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None do.
Higher education is about more than job training: Open
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None do.
Into the Night
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None do.
BidenPresident
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You are a mentally ill asshole.
BidenPresident
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You clearly are mentally ill.
But you like him because he was rich. That explains Trump.
You can say the same thing about GM, BMW, Kodak, IBM, Bayer, The Associated Press and Coca Cola, to name a few.
https://historycollection.com/10-things-know-independence-movement-spanish-america/
"Ford Motor Company was a major force in the Arsenal of Democracy. Under the leadership of Edsel Ford—and despite the reluctance of his father Henry to join the war effort—the company played a pivotal role in the powerful collaboration of industrial leaders that supplied the planes, tanks, trucks and jeeps that supported the Allied victory in World War II."
https://fordfund.org/highlights-hap...ocracy-75-years-since-the-end-of-world-war-ii
That is not the issue. You said liberal arts colleges do not have electives. You are clearly wrong.
Stick with the topic rather than switching your argument to something unrelated to the point--another non-sequitur on your part.
Name one. You cannot name a liberal arts school without electives. They all have electives and liberal arts majors usually have more electives than most other majors.
Have you attended college?
Into the Night
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It is the issue, Dim. Don't try to deny the topic.
Argument of the Stone fallacy. You still have no idea what a liberal arts school is. There are no electives.
You are describing yourself, Dim. You cannot blame YOUR problem on me or anybody else.
Into the Night
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Some have already been named. RQAA.
Yes. RQAA.
Stop asking the same questions over and over, Dim. They've already been answered. You are being mindless.
Why can't you name a liberal arts college without electives? You can never support your lies.
You phony. You use RQAA when you pretend you have already presented information which you never presented; for example, a county which had more votes than registered voters.
Now, you are using it when someone else presented that information. All those schools BidenPresident listed were part of the St. John's system. But, even those schools have some electives.
From the St. John's Santa Fe campus website:
"In order to construct a focus, a student enrolls in preceptorials (electives) that all fall within the subject-area designated by one of the segment titles. For instance, a student might have a Focus in Literature, or Politics and Society. While some students find it useful or rewarding to concentrate their studies in this way, the majority prefer to choose the elective that most appeals to them each semester without the constraint of a Focus.
Stop making the same false statement. Liberal arts colleges do have electives. You cannot name one that does not (there may be some but you don't know any).
Into the Night
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Several have already been named. RQAA.
Into the Night
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Manufacturing 'data' won't work, Sock. The fact that you don't know what a liberal arts school IS is YOUR problem.
Your question has already been answered, Sock. Stop asking it mindlessly over and over and over. RQAA. Argument of the Stone fallacy.
Let me just correct you there, Harvard University is not a liberal arts college. The hint is in the "university." It is a research university.
A liberal arts college would have little to no graduate programs, and would stress giving undergraduate students a general education. Harvard has a well developed graduate program, and specialized schools. The professors at a research university get ahead by doing research, it is all "publish or perish."
Almost all colleges/universities have electives. The more liberal artsy a degree is, the less requirements and the more electives it has.
Into the Night
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I never said Harvard was a liberal arts college. I do consider Harvard, however, to be a pretty useless university.
If someone applies at my business and claims a Harvard degree, they won't get hired. I won't put up with the arrogance Harvard graduates have or the woke culture this university encourages.
I did?
However, to really understand the threat that Trump represents, it is helpful to know history, especially European. It is also useful to understand the workings of politics. American history would also inform you of how the dangerous times in America happened. Yes, education is valuable. It is not what garage mechanics are informed about through their work and training. They can pick it up, and very few do.
There are college educated people who do not understand the mechanisms and dangers. However, many of them have been exposed to it. Fox and right-wing news fans are not getting educated, but are taught propaganda.
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Into the Night
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Don't try to deny your own posts, Sock. It doesn't work.
The only threat Trump represents is to Democrats like you, Sock.
Trump is not running as leader of any European nation.
Void argument fallacy.
Void argument fallacy. Being vague is not an argument, Sock.
Depends on the education.
Garage mechanics (good ones) can make a lot of money. They also know how to fix cars, trucks, buses, locomotives, aircraft, etc. Something you are uneducated about.
Pick what up? Their tools?
Garage mechanics understand the mechanisms of the machines they work on, Sock. They also understand (most of them anyway) of the dangers of working on them.
Exposed to what? Void argument fallacy.
FOX is owned and operated by DEMOCRATS, Sock.
cawacko
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Question for you Flash as I know you are in academia. Is there a government movement to limit liberal art colleges? Or are less kids today choosing liberal arts educations? I tend to follow higher education a little bit and am curious if I'm missing something based on the concern (on this board) over it.
My understanding of liberal arts colleges are they are more expensive and on the whole graduates earn less (this isn't to suggest people shouldn't pursue the liberal arts rather that's what the data shows). I'm guessing working class folks are likely more interested in a skills based education (liberal arts appeal more to the rich) but that doesn't apply to every individual of course.
I'm not sure what you mean by "limit" liberal arts colleges. More schools are popping up everywhere. Some of the private schools are basically to get government funding and make sure it is fairly easy. That tends to appeal to students with lower academic motivation--anybody can pass a history class or American literature attitude. These schools often require little reading which is also true of state schools. I have heard many professors say "students won't read so I'm not going to assign anything." If you want to keep your job you have to attract students. I have seen many different departments lobby to have one (or more) of its courses required so it has a ready source of students (including home eco); otherwise they have to compete with other departments an an elective resulting in courses like "Taylor Swift and Witches."
Based on the data there has been an increase in STEM graduates attracted by higher pay. The cost of liberal arts schools is often partially based on the number of students seeking admission. Or, small liberal arts schools considered more prestigious. In my area many of the male teachers/coaches only teach about 5 years before they quit and go to work at one of the refineries/plants for $100,000+.