A Civil Discussion: Evolution, Science, Theology, Atheism, Climate

[Into the Night]

Because, very simply, man is one of the subset of primates called Great Apes. Humans are primates, of the subgroup classified Family Hominidae, which is also called Great Apes.

Read, learn, once educated, speak without ignorance.

https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). At least you pointed to some twit that told you Man is an ape.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). At least you pointed to some twit that told you Man is an ape.

Mantra 41 Idiocracy

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One of the "miscellaneous" documents on that site is Into the Night's mantra list.

 

[Damocles]

Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism). At least you pointed to some twit that told you Man is an ape.

And you have provided no evidence otherwise. Pretending it is a fallacy to give evidence and tell you to learn first before speaking is a "circular argument" when all you've provided is nothing at all except criticism of the delivery is deliberate ignorance.

This is a bit like going into a math class and telling the teacher it is "circular" to state the Pythagorean Theorem from given information after she assigns you reading as to how Pythagorean Theory has come about and then throw down the mic like you've made a point. You haven't, you've said something nonsensical and have done a dance move, neither of which are salient to the discussion.

Either educate yourself and enter the conversation with knowledge, or quietly sit aside while the grownups speak. This is a conversation, not a sporting event, you are not the referee, contribute with knowledgeable argument rather than pretense and deliberate ignorance or we will taunt you again.

 

[Into the Night]

And you have provided no evidence otherwise.

I don't need to. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

Pretending it is a fallacy to give evidence and tell you to learn first before speaking is a "circular argument" when all you've provided is nothing at all except criticism of the delivery is deliberate ignorance.

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy. I am not pretending your fallacies. YOU are making them.

This is a bit like going into a math class and telling the teacher it is "circular" to state the Pythagorean Theorem from given information after she assigns you reading as to how Pythagorean Theory has come about and then throw down the mic like you've made a point. You haven't, you've said something nonsensical and have done a dance move, neither of which are salient to the discussion.

The Pythagorean Theory has a proof in mathematics which is why it even exists. False equivalence fallacy. You cannot compare an open functional system to a closed one. Logic, which you are ignoring, is also a closed functional system just like mathematics is.

Either educate yourself and enter the conversation with knowledge, or quietly sit aside while the grownups speak.

I already have. Calling people a child is an insult fallacy.

This is a conversation, not a sporting event, you are not the referee, contribute with knowledgeable argument rather than pretense and deliberate ignorance or we will taunt you again.

I am not refereeing anything. I am calling you out on your fallacies. YOU are making them. You are better than this.

What you are arguing is a religion. It is not science. You are trying to prove your religion True. That is a circular argument fallacy and fundamentalism.

The 'ape-man' concept comes from a Nazi, Ernst Haeckel. He's also the one that created the fake 'embryo chart' that can be seen in universities even to this day.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I don't need to. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy. I am not pretending your fallacies. YOU are making them....

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One of the "miscellaneous" documents on that site is Into the Night's mantra list.

 

[Damocles]

I don't need to. Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy. I am not pretending your fallacies. YOU are making them.

The Pythagorean Theory has a proof in mathematics which is why it even exists. False equivalence fallacy. You cannot compare an open functional system to a closed one. Logic, which you are ignoring, is also a closed functional system just like mathematics is.

I already have. Calling people a child is an insult fallacy.

I am not refereeing anything. I am calling you out on your fallacies. YOU are making them. You are better than this.

What you are arguing is a religion. It is not science. You are trying to prove your religion True. That is a circular argument fallacy and fundamentalism.

The 'ape-man' concept comes from a Nazi, Ernst Haeckel. He's also the one that created the fake 'embryo chart' that can be seen in universities even to this day.

Again, just shouting phrases does not help in a conversation format. You pretend that you've learned the entire list of logical fallacy and then produce one yourself. The Red Herring Fallacy where you simply replace the argument for what you want to argue... you change the subject.

The "ape-man" concept you talk about comes from there and it was a product of the Nazi Racism propaganda, but the classification of species that I put forward never has been part of that and was classifying species long before the Nazis came and will continue even after you stop pretending you have knowledge that you do not, whether that is through education and silence or simply our endings. What you have produced here is what I call the Underpants Gnomes form of argument.

You say something, you do not connect it to anything, then PROFIT!

The reality is quite different though. Scientific classification is a product of tested and informed knowledge and I provided a wonderful tool for you to learn about it, though you choose ignorance and repeated red herring arguments or simply shouting logical fallacies that do not apply well and pretending you have some expertise that you do not. Which is, of course, a fallacy itself, it is Argument from Ignorance.

 

[Into the Night]

Again, just shouting phrases does not help in a conversation format. You pretend that you've learned the entire list of logical fallacy and then produce one yourself. The Red Herring Fallacy where you simply replace the argument for what you want to argue... you change the subject.

I have not changed the subject. YOU have. Now you are trying to deny and discard logic.

The "ape-man" concept you talk about comes from there and it was a product of the Nazi Racism propaganda, but the classification of species that I put forward never has been part of that and was classifying species long before the Nazis came and will continue even after you stop pretending you have knowledge that you do not, whether that is through education and silence or simply our endings. What you have produced here is what I call the Underpants Gnomes form of argument.

You say something, you do not connect it to anything, then PROFIT!

I make no profit here. You do not pay me. I have identified every one of your fallacies. They are YOUR fallacies. Only YOU can do something about them. Instead, you continue to make them.

The reality is quite different though.

There is no absolute 'reality'. See the branch of philosophy known as phenomenology.

Scientific classification is a product of tested and informed knowledge

There is no such thing as 'scientific classification' of species. It is not a knowledge. It is just a naming system. Science is not a naming system.

and I provided a wonderful tool for you to learn about it,

No, you provided a link where someone told you man is an ape.

though you choose ignorance and repeated red herring arguments or simply shouting logical fallacies that do not apply well and pretending you have some expertise that you do not. Which is, of course, a fallacy itself, it is Argument from Ignorance.

Fallacy fallacies. You are discarding logic. It is YOU pretending to have expertise you do not. It is YOU pushing a religion as 'sCiEnCe'. Inversion fallacy.

You are better than this. Why do you insist on making fallacies?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I have not changed the subject. YOU have. Now you are trying to deny and discard logic.

I make no profit here. You do not pay me. I have identified every one of your fallacies. They are YOUR fallacies. Only YOU can do something about them. Instead, you continue to make them.

There is no absolute 'reality'. See the branch of philosophy known as phenomenology.

There is no such thing as 'scientific classification' of species. It is not a knowledge. It is just a naming system. Science is not a naming system.

No, you provided a link where someone told you man is an ape.

Fallacy fallacies. You are discarding logic. It is YOU pretending to have expertise you do not. It is YOU pushing a religion as 'sCiEnCe'. Inversion fallacy.

You are better than this. Why do you insist on making fallacies?

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Mantra 4a.

One of the "miscellaneous" documents on that site is Into the Night's mantra list.