A Civil Discussion: Evolution, Science, Theology, Atheism, Climate

[Flash]

The Church of Evolution claims that man evolved from monkeys.
Evolution itself is not a claim.

Scientific evolutionary theory does not make such a claim and never did. That is a claim made by religious groups who never bothered to learn what evolution is but want to criticize it.

 

[Into the Night]

they did, on a divergent path. they got stronger skeletal structure and musculature and opposable big toes while we got bigger brains and weaker skeletal structure.

So the story goes.

 

[Into the Night]

Scientific evolutionary theory does not make such a claim and never did. That is a claim made by religious groups who never bothered to learn what evolution is but want to criticize it.

The Theory of Evolution is not science.

 

[Into the Night]

Couple points: humans are technically speaking APES.

Secondly: evolution happens when there is a stressor on a population. It doesn't mean the entire population changes, just those that experience the stressor. Since apes and monkeys currently inhabit stable ecosystems and they can survive without any additional modifications to themselves there's no reason for them to have "evolved".

Evolution is a RESPONSE, not a goal.

So the story goes. The Theory of Evolution is a religion, often fundamentalist.

 

[Into the Night]

yes. just as we stayed apes. we are one of the set of great apes.

So the story goes. Not science, of course. A religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Sorry, thought you might be willing to discuss this topic rationally. My bad.

The Church of Evolution is rarely rational. It is often fundamentalist.

 

[Into the Night]

There is nothing rational about man evolving from apes. But it does help atheists sleep at night.

To be an atheist is to not care whether the Theory of Evolution is True or False. Atheism means 'no theism'. It is not a religion at all. It doesn't care whether any religion, god, or gods is true or not.

That said, I've found 'atheists' that do, in fact, have one or more religions.

 

[Into the Night]

we are apes. literally.

while we are different from gorillas and orangutans, who are also apes, it doesn't change what we are.

Why do you think Man is an ape? Who told you this?

 

[Into the Night]

here... read this link so you can keep up with the conversation...

https://australian.museum/learn/sci... classified in the,Great Apes and Lesser Apes.

So you are going to quote a museum that says Man is an ape?? How does this museum have such awesome power to make such a declaration?

 

[Into the Night]

Poor uneducated low grade

The chimpanzee and human genomes are strikingly similar and encode very similar proteins. The DNA sequence that can be directly compared between the two genomes is almost 99 percent identical. When DNA insertions and deletions are taken into account, humans and chimpanzees still share 96 percent sequence identity

The DNA sequence governs life processes. Of course they are going to have a lot of commonalities.
The two don't even have the same number of chromosomes, dude. Stop making up numbers.

 

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[Saint Guinefort]

The Church of Evolution is rarely rational. It is often fundamentalist.

Well it's good you aren't a biologist and all you have to worry about is remembering Ohm's Law.

 

[Into the Night]

30 percent of pregnancies do not go 9 months. God is the largest aborter. Many children are born with incurable diseases or terrible birth defects. The idea that a kid is being taken from a fine life is wrong. The reds do not care about life. The Repubs fight every program that helps the poor. We do not have equal schooling for minorities. We do not have universal healthcare. Kids born to poor parents do not get the healthcare they require. They live lives of desperation. If you rightys are anti-abortion, then solve those problems. Give generously to a fund that will ensure poor kids' education and healthcare. Make sure their schools are good and that they are well fed. That will make most abortions go away.

More made up numbers. Argument form randU fallacy. You cannot justify murder that way. You cannot justify murder through 'welfare' either.

 

[Into the Night]

Simplistic in thought, if I were Christian I would choose to think that science is the way we can see how God did his work. In this case, it appears as if God used evolution to build divergent species, including the member of the subset of Great Apes we call Homo Sapiens Sapiens (yes, it really does repeat). IMHO, it is cool. You can even see the paths that the evolution took for each of the different members of the Apes, including the Lesser Apes. There is a reason there are several different species of ape, it is because there was divergent evolutionary paths they took to get there.

Science has no religion. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science. It is a religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Doesn't your Bible tell us what he intended?

The Bible describes what God intends (present tense). Nowhere in the Bible is the Theory of Evolution every described or brought up.

 

[Into the Night]

Well it's good you aren't a biologist and all you have to worry about is remembering Ohm's Law.

The Theory of Evolution is not biology.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Science has no religion. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science. It is a religion.

My theory is that you are a paranoid schizophrenic and chronic liar, Sybil. You have three accounts where you converse with yourself daily. If you are not mentally ill, then you are clearly a fucking moron.

Why did you remove the links to your manifesto from your signature? Were you embarrassed by them?

 

[Saint Guinefort]

The Theory of Evolution is not biology.

LOL. Why do you think this sort of post is EVER going to land? You consistently make these ridiculous claims. So weird. Weirder that you think it somehow "clever".

 

[Damocles]

Why do you think Man is an ape? Who told you this?

Because, very simply, man is one of the subset of primates called Great Apes. Humans are primates, of the subgroup classified Family Hominidae, which is also called Great Apes.

Read, learn, once educated, speak without ignorance.

https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Because, very simply, man is one of the subset of primates called Great Apes. Humans are primates, of the subgroup classified Family Hominidae, which is also called Great Apes.

Read, learn, once educated, speak without ignorance.

https://australian.museum/learn/science/human-evolution/humans-are-apes-great-apes/

That's not simple enough for Sybil. Sorry.