E Jean Wins Again

[domer76]

I know, right......it only lasted another 46 years after I graduated......I must have done something wrong......

Yeah, most law schools close their doors because of sanctions.

Even Middle Tennessee State wouldn’t touch them.

 

[domer76]

Do you not know the difference between a criminal trial and a civil lawsuit?
Trump was found liable in a civil trial and judged that he would have to pay damages for his defamatory statements after he was no longer President.

Trump then proceeded to make more defamatory statements which were added unto the lawsuit for his defamatory statements he made when he was President.

He is being sued for defamatory statements made at different times. The basis for why the statements are defamatory hasn't changed. A jury ruled that Trump's statements were defamatory because his argument that his statements were true was found to be false. The evidence of the falsity of Trump's statements doesn't change just because he keeps repeating the same false statements.

You’ll have to understand that you’re dealing with a person possessing a 6th graders mentality. No clear understanding of the Constitution nor the legal system.

He also believes Jesus healed his cancers and has something more for him to accomplish. I just wish Jesus would do something about his ignorance

 

[QP!]

So you are saying Trump is being charged a second time for the same thing. That is illegal

Ok. Here is a legal lesson for Dummies and you need to sit in the front row.


If a person lies and claims you are a pedophile to defame you and destroy your reputation in the community, and you win against them in court, and get a settlement, what they CANNOT then do, is go back and say as much as they want, you are a pedophile, while saying 'I cannot be sued a second time as that is illegal, so i get to keep defaming you forever now'. 'Checkmate court system I found a loophole that allows me to defame this person now forever'.

Are you smart enough that you can read the above and realize why that is the case? Why you do not get a life long free pass to CONTINUE defaming someone once you have the first verdict against you?

 

[QP!]

Where are the vaginal swabs?

What do vaginal swabs prove when a person admits his go to move is to 'grab them by the pussy' and he 'sinks a finger'?


Are you looking for finger prints?

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Phantasmal,

[FONT="]“E. Jean Carroll won a partial victory in her defamation lawsuit against former President Trump on Wednesday, with the judge ruling a trial is needed only to determine how much Trump must pay the writer in damages.[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]In a significant blow for Trump, U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled Trump defamed Carroll by making false statements with actual malice in June 2019 when she came forward with accusations that Trump sexually assaulted her years earlier.”[/FONT]


https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4189475-judge-hands-e-jean-carroll-partial-victory-in-trump-defamation-lawsuit/amp/

Go E Jean Carroll!

Stand up to the brute.

You are an inspiration.

Thank you!

 

[serendipity]

What do vaginal swabs prove when a person admits his go to move is to 'grab them by the pussy' and he 'sinks a finger'?


Are you looking for finger prints?

So how can you keep maintaining he raped her then?

Rape
The legal definition of rape is when someone puts their penis in another person's vagina, anus or mouth, without the person's permission.

Assault by penetration
Assault by penetration is when someone puts an object or any part of the body other than their penis (for example fingers) into another person's vagina or anus, without the person's permission.

Sexual assault
Sexual assault is when someone touches you sexually without your permission, with an object or body part.

 

[QP!]

So how can you keep maintaining he raped her then?

Rape
The legal definition of rape is when someone puts their penis in another person's vagina, anus or mouth, without the person's permission.

Assault by penetration
Assault by penetration is when someone puts an object or any part of the body other than their penis (for example fingers) into another person's vagina or anus, without the person's permission.

Sexual assault
Sexual assault is when someone touches you sexually without your permission, with an object or body part.

Google 'Rape Definition' as EVERY SINGLE DEFINITION I GOT has some form of this in it, on the first page of results.

RAPE

noun
unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.: See also sexual assault.

So that is how i can maintain it is rape as that is how most of the world considers it as the Judge said when he found Trump raped her.

Few people would not consider that a person was raped if you took a broom handle and forcible penetrated them, and it si the same for with the fingers, when you 'grab them by the pussy', and sink a finger because 'you just can't help yourself',

 

[QP!]

Oh and here is the Federal Definition of Rape by the DoJ.

“The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

As the Judge said, New YOrk State is fairly unique in only considering penis penetration rape. MOst other States, the Fed's and casual, non legal considerations all call the various forms of forced penetration, rape,

 

[serendipity]

Oh and here is the Federal Definition of Rape by the DoJ.




As the Judge said, New YOrk State is fairly unique in only considering penis penetration rape. MOst other States, the Fed's and casual, non legal considerations all call the various forms of forced penetration, rape,

The UK does not consider penetration by a finger as rape. The definition in the US was changed due to constant pressure from activists. The UK is right. I might also add that the statute of limitations had run out on this case and again pressure from activists changed the law.

Assault by penetration is when someone puts an object or any part of the body other than their penis (for example fingers) into another person's vagina or anus, without the person's permission.

https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/...sexual-offences/what-are-rape-sexual-assault/

 

[QP!]

The UK does not consider penetration by a finger as rape.

Assault by penetration
Assault by penetration is when someone puts an object or any part of the body other than their penis (for example fingers) into another person's vagina or anus, without the person's permission.

https://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/...sexual-offences/what-are-rape-sexual-assault/

Well the US law would have originated from UK law, and rape in the US used to only be Penis in Vagina.I think Anus was actually added after. Then in most jurisdictions including all across the US (NYS being an anomaly) it was updated to include penetration by objects and other body parts.

If you are in prison and 10 guys decided to penetrate your ass with a broom handle and many other things they want to see what fits, it is hard to say you were not just raped.

That is why the judge, dismissed Trumps counter suit and made it clear via his ruling 'IT WAS RAPE!'

 

[serendipity]

Well the US law would have originated from UK law, and rape in the US used to only be Penis in Vagina.I think Anus was actually added after. Then in most jurisdictions including all across the US (NYS being an anomaly) it was updated to include penetration by objects and other body parts.

If you are in prison and 10 guys decided to penetrate your ass with a broom handle and many other things they want to see what fits, it is hard to say you were not just raped.

That is why the judge, dismissed Trumps counter suit and made it clear via his ruling 'IT WAS RAPE!'

Yes, as I stated the law was changed by pressure from rape activists. The UK had the good sense to refuse to do the same, although no doubt that might change if Labour win the next GE.

 

[serendipity]

Well the US law would have originated from UK law, and rape in the US used to only be Penis in Vagina.I think Anus was actually added after. Then in most jurisdictions including all across the US (NYS being an anomaly) it was updated to include penetration by objects and other body parts.

If you are in prison and 10 guys decided to penetrate your ass with a broom handle and many other things they want to see what fits, it is hard to say you were not just raped.

That is why the judge, dismissed Trumps counter suit and made it clear via his ruling 'IT WAS RAPE!'

That's assault by penetration, are you saying that Trump used a broom handle?

 

[QP!]

That's assault by penetration, are you saying that Trump used a broom handle?

Broom handle, penis, fingers, coke bottle, what is the fucking difference if you are the victim and you do not want the person penetrating you?

Do you think a single person forcibly finger or broom handle raped says 'oh thank goodness it was not the penis'?

 

[ptif219]

Do you not know the difference between a criminal trial and a civil lawsuit?
Trump was found liable in a civil trial and judged that he would have to pay damages for his defamatory statements after he was no longer President.

Trump then proceeded to make more defamatory statements which were added unto the lawsuit for his defamatory statements he made when he was President.

He is being sued for defamatory statements made at different times. The basis for why the statements are defamatory hasn't changed. A jury ruled that Trump's statements were defamatory because his argument that his statements were true was found to be false. The evidence of the falsity of Trump's statements doesn't change just because he keeps repeating the same false statements.

There was no evidence of an assault

 

[ptif219]

Meanwhile back in the real world, Trump has to pay $5 million for his defamatory statements in the one civil trial and now a jury will decide damages in another trial for different statements he made.
A jury that heard the evidence decided differently than you that has not heard the evidence.

There has not yet been a trial the Judge made that decision from the other trial and applied it to here. Shows what kangaroo courts they have in New York. What the judge did appears to be illegal and an abuse of power

 

[serendipity]

Broom handle, penis, fingers, coke bottle, what is the fucking difference if you are the victim and you do not want the person penetrating you?

Do you think a single person forcibly finger or broom handle raped says 'oh thank goodness it was not the penis'?

The definition was changed fairly recently and I was wondering why but I can see that I won't get any sense out of you on the subject.

 

[serendipity]

Broom handle, penis, fingers, coke bottle, what is the fucking difference if you are the victim and you do not want the person penetrating you?

Do you think a single person forcibly finger or broom handle raped says 'oh thank goodness it was not the penis'?

Reductio ad absurdum, Into The Night can give you chapter and verse on that.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

There has not yet been a trial the Judge made that decision from the other trial and applied it to here. Shows what kangaroo courts they have in New York. What the judge did appears to be illegal and an abuse of power

You do live in a fantasy world.

Meanwhile back in the real world, anyone that wants to can look at the jury form that they filled out finding Trump liable for defamation and sexual assault.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/65895581/174/carroll-v-trump/

 

[QP!]

There was no evidence of an assault

Lies,

She had contemporaneous witness testimony from the day it happened based on a call she made detailing the event. that is even more compelling than contemporaneous notes taken, which are considered very high value evidence and which Trump is facing with his many lawyers, who have had those notes seized by Jack Smith.

 

[serendipity]

Lies,

She had contemporaneous witness testimony from the day it happened based on a call she made detailing the event. that is even more compelling than contemporaneous notes taken, which are considered very high value evidence and which Trump is facing with his many lawyers, who have had those notes seized by Jack Smith.

BFD