Joke Biden e-mail shows direct collusion with son's business when VP

[TOP]

But TOP,
this essentially means that it's not important to make as many people happy as possible.

I think it's a very big deal if women don't have control over their own reproductive systems.

Others think it's a very big deal if they can't own whatever kinds of firearms that they want.

I think it's a very big deal that we don't have a National Health Service like the UK's.

Others think it's a very big deal if they're not allowed to take a job without having to pay union dues.

These are not areas for compromise.
We're going to fight about these things forever
or we can go our separate ways and do our own thing.

My premise is that if we're not going to be imposing laws and tax codes on one another,
we'll get along better as citizens of neighboring nations
than we ever will as countrymen.

For me, remaining unified requires EVERYBODY to lower personal standards.

There's always a way to compromise... and still do our own thing... I proved that by teaching 30 years... and I'm still proving that it's possible

 

[Earl]

But there are liberals would support this.... and that's almost worse...

These trans freaks are a very small minority.

"What percentage of the US population is transgender?

Approximately 1.03% of the nation’s adult population."
usafacts.com

The left supports this because they are as sick as the trans freaks.

"Americans love a winner"...G. Patton.

Perversion is not a winner...it is a loser.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

There's always a way to compromise... and still do our own thing... I proved that by teaching 30 years... and I'm still proving that it's possible

I don't know your ethnic background, TOP,
but while my birth certificate,

essentially a notarized piece of paper,
says that I'm an American,

23 and Me, an actual DNA test,
says that I'm Italian.

I identify with my ethnicity and my nationality pretty much equally.

The thought of two Americas co-existing as neighbors

rather than one America, which I foresee to be an eternal tinderbox,

just doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother you.

That's OK.

In our two lifetimes,
it's definitely going to go your way.
That's definitely good from your perspective.

Eventually, I'm fairly sure that the split is inevitable,
but I won't live to see it.
Tough break for me, I guess,
but if it doesn't happen,
I wouldn't be happy to see the resulting dystopia.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Very good point.
Consistency is a problem with them.
Logic isn't valued much either.

And as we've seen many, many times here -- neither are education, ethics, and principles.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

God Bless America... and yes I believe that God is real ... and no... I don't force anyone to believe otherwise ...I'm watching the 9/11 ceremony now... half the country is always in a rage because they don't want to not be in a rage... we see perfect examples of that here on JPP every day... if your purpose in life is to go out of your way to not get along with others that kind of makes it impossible for others to get along with you... We both grew up in times where people had major differences in religious beliefs political beliefs social beliefs yet somehow we found a way to make things work.. that's because we learned how important it was for people to work together and get along... granted it was a perfect but then it doesn't have to be...But these days not only do people not even try to compromise anymore they do just the opposite... we see that everyday on JPP... Shining examples of pure evil, hate, and lies... until they change our country as we knew it is doomed.. I refuse to accept that it's going to be this way.
or Worse....forever...

Yes, you are the epitome of this. Exhibit A, from this same thread:

...this one needs regulation don't you agree? Nothing inconsistent or illogical about wanting to put a stop to this kind of nonsense

People in "the good old days" got along much better (at least in your mythos) because by and large they kept their large schnozzes out of other people's business. Try it sometime! You might be surprised at how much less angry, fearful, and full of hate you feel when you quit worrying what other people believe!

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I don't know your ethnic background, TOP,
but while my birth certificate,

essentially a notarized piece of paper,
says that I'm an American,

23 and Me, an actual DNA test,
says that I'm Italian.

I identify with my ethnicity and my nationality pretty much equally.

The thought of two Americas co-existing as neighbors

rather than one America, which I foresee to be an eternal tinderbox,

just doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother you.

That's OK.

In our two lifetimes,
it's definitely going to go your way.
That's definitely good from your perspective.

Eventually, I'm fairly sure that the split is inevitable,
but I won't live to see it.
Tough break for me, I guess,
but if it doesn't happen,
I wouldn't be happy to see the resulting dystopia.

What you failed to mention here is that ppl like Toxic are fine with getting along with other Americans -- as long as those Americans are just like them, believe the same rot (whether that's religion, abortion, guns, LGBTQ issues, etc.) that they believe. Notice the childish burbling about the "good old days" when "everyone" was on the same page, followed by a hateful post mocking a trans person.

As much as I hate to admit it, Nifty, I fear that you are right about there being two different Americas. Sadly the dark one wants to force everyone to conform to some twisted idea of "America" -- that's the one where pEarl and Toxic live. The other one just wants people to be able to be whoever they are, as long as it harms no one. That's the one where you and I live.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Then why is it every time a Democrat gets in control regulations explode in number? Deep blue states are easily the most regulated. Why is that?

You just make up stuff, or do you get it from Fox? Link us up with your proof, Sheila.

Thanks for admitting that you are not in favor of clean air and water, safe work places, safe food and drugs, fair wages, protection from discrimination, gun safety, drunk driving penalties, etc. etc. etc.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You just make up stuff, or do you get it from Fox? Link us up with your proof, Sheila.

https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/reg-stats

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/tracking-regulatory-changes-in-the-biden-era/

Joe Biden’s Year In Federal Regulation, 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynec...r-in-federal-regulation-2021/?sh=794e37cc6240

Regulatory costs soar as Biden adds rules faster than predecessors

The Biden administration is finishing off its first full year in office with more than $201 billion in regulatory costs and approximately 131 million hours in new annual paperwork, according to research by the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank that closely tracks government rule-making.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-as-biden-adds-rules-faster-than-predecessors

Thanks for admitting that you are not in favor of clean air and water, safe work places, safe food and drugs, fair wages, protection from discrimination, gun safety, drunk driving penalties, etc. etc. etc.

Oh, I have no problem with some regulation of those things. What I have a problem with is ZERO TOLERANCE regulations of the sort being all-to-often pushed out by bureaucrats today.

How safe is safe enough? How much of your personal safety is your responsibility, not the governments? How clean should the air and water be? Should drunk (or stoned) drivers be executed when convicted? How stiff should those penalties be?

I answered your response and questions, you answer mine.

 

[zappasguitar]

Indeed.

There are 5000 Emails with China Joe using pseudonyms.

Why is he hiding behind pseudonyms?

He is dirty and so is his rotten son, Cocaine Hunter.

So what?

Steven King wrote many of his best novels using the pseudonym Richard Bachman.

That doesn't prove he committed any crimes either.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

https://regulatorystudies.columbian.gwu.edu/reg-stats

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/tracking-regulatory-changes-in-the-biden-era/

Joe Biden’s Year In Federal Regulation, 2021
https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynec...r-in-federal-regulation-2021/?sh=794e37cc6240

Regulatory costs soar as Biden adds rules faster than predecessors

The Biden administration is finishing off its first full year in office with more than $201 billion in regulatory costs and approximately 131 million hours in new annual paperwork, according to research by the American Action Forum, a conservative think tank that closely tracks government rule-making.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...-as-biden-adds-rules-faster-than-predecessors



Oh, I have no problem with some regulation of those things. What I have a problem with is ZERO TOLERANCE regulations of the sort being all-to-often pushed out by bureaucrats today.

How safe is safe enough? How much of your personal safety is your responsibility, not the governments? How clean should the air and water be? Should drunk (or stoned) drivers be executed when convicted? How stiff should those penalties be?

I answered your response and questions, you answer mine.

So what are these alleged "zero tolerance regulations"? What states are executing convicted drunk drivers? Can you point to those regulations/laws?

Air/water/food/drugs should be safe enough for children to consume/breathe w/o health issues. Yes, Biden has restored regulations that #TRE45ON dumped. Why did #TRE45ON dump them? In order to pander to chumps like you, and to companies that cried about losing profits due to "over regulation" by environmental law.

The Washington Examiner is an alt-right, non-credible source. The "conservative think tank" is equally biased.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So what?

Steven King wrote many of his best novels using the pseudonym Richard Bachman.

That doesn't prove he committed any crimes either.

There are laws that require government officials to do government business on government e-mail and other forms of electronic media accounts exclusively. Government officials are not supposed to be doing ANY official business of ANY sort on private e-mail accounts or other electronic media.

Some private sector novelist can use pseudonyms and hidden electronic media if they want as they aren't subject to such laws.

 

[zappasguitar]

There are laws that require government officials to do government business on government e-mail and other forms of electronic media accounts exclusively. Government officials are not supposed to be doing ANY official business of ANY sort on private e-mail accounts or other electronic media.

Some private sector novelist can use pseudonyms and hidden electronic media if they want as they aren't subject to such laws.

So far, there is no evidence Biden was doing any official Government business while using those pseudonyms.

And according to reports, many of the emails WERE on official Government email accounts.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So what are these alleged "zero tolerance regulations"? What states are executing convicted drunk drivers? Can you point to those regulations/laws?

For example, the current limit on arsenic in drinking water is 10 ppb. The ONLY reason it is set there is in the 90's new and better (expensive) test equipment became available that could even measure such minute quantities in a sample. The previous level was 50 ppb. Arsenic is only a health threat when it is in the ppm range or present roughly 500 to 1000 times more than the 50 ppb level allowed.

The EPA wants to lower allowable ozone pollution to 65 ppb from the current level of 75 ppb. This has no discernable health benefit and is estimated to cost $100 billion a year in compliance.

The current allowable hexavalent chromium in water is zero.

Those are examples of the EPA setting levels of "pollution" that are well below naturally occurring levels in the air and water and well below any harmful level to people.

As for executing drunk drivers, you must have a serious reading comprehension problem. I asked if that would be an acceptable punishment to you. That is, how much punishment are you willing to dole out for someone having been convicted of drunk driving?

Air/water/food/drugs should be safe enough for children to consume/breathe w/o health issues.

Those levels have been in place since the 60's, some since the 50's. What you miss is today, environmental regulators are setting allowable levels of pollution below naturally occurring levels. That is, they want the water and air cleaner than found in nature.

Yes, Biden has restored regulations that #TRE45ON dumped. Why did #TRE45ON dump them? In order to pander to chumps like you, and to companies that cried about losing profits due to "over regulation" by environmental law.

No, Biden is allowing regulators to pump out hundreds of overbearing, costly, and ineffective regulations because in the eyes of the Joke administration there is never too much or too strong regulation of anything. For example, the Joke administration is letting the EPA try to effectively regulate the internal combustion engine out of all production. That is an insane position to take, but Bribem and his Minions of Ignorance are doing it as fast as they can.

The Washington Examiner is an alt-right, non-credible source. The "conservative think tank" is equally biased.

Ad hominem and irrelevant. Do you see me bitching when you post up some shitty, worthless, radical Leftist, source like the NYT or the WaPo, or worse, something like Vox or Salon? No. I look at what they have to say then demolish their position and argument. I don't dismiss it out-of-hand like you do with any source you think is "rightwing."

 

[T. A. Gardner]

So far, there is no evidence Biden was doing any official Government business while using those pseudonyms.

And according to reports, many of the emails WERE on official Government email accounts.

That's only because the 5400+ e-mails where he used a pseudonym haven't been fully released yet.