Assailants on Tuesday gunned down the mother, aunt and siblings of a marine killed

I'm embarrassed.....a thread is started talking about the sacrifices that Mexican soldiers and their families are going through to stop drug trafficking and my fellow countrymen use it to compare their favorite drugs.....these people are dead because you use the drugs these murderers sell.....I don't have the words to tell you how much I think you people suck......

There dead cause ghestspo asswhole like you support racism by drug war.
 
wow, that really answered the question :palm:

I guess you don't think people could
1 read about it
2 see documentaries
3 visit your sis and burn some humbolt on knobb hill in frisco and still pass a drug test back in Louisiana. I'm not saying I didn't nearly piss my pants when they called me.
 
I guess you don't think people could
1 read about it
2 see documentaries
3 visit your sis and burn some humbolt on knobb hill in frisco and still pass a drug test back in Louisiana. I'm not saying I didn't nearly piss my pants when they called me.

iow....you don't even know, you're just taking other people's word for it

until you've tried it, you don't know for sure :pke:
 
I'm embarrassed.....a thread is started talking about the sacrifices that Mexican soldiers and their families are going through to stop drug trafficking and my fellow countrymen use it to compare their favorite drugs.....these people are dead because you use the drugs these murderers sell.....I don't have the words to tell you how much I think you people suck......
If it wasn't illegal, the wouldn't be killing those people over it.
 
Easily. Mexico has very strict laws in regards to guns, yet they have a difficult problem with violent crime and gun wielding criminals are still quite common, which is meant to say that prohibiting guns does not prevent criminals from getting them.
They also have very strict laws in Mexico about trafficking illegal drugs. I fail to see your point. This is an issue about the break down of law and order. Hell they could have sent in a bunch of thugs to chop them up with machettes. The choice of weapons in incidental to the break down of law and order. The same thing would happen here in the US regardless of what the gun laws are if law and order break down.
 
i'm not surprised that flew over mott's head
It didn't. It's not only a stupid point. It's irrelevent, has no bearing in the incident in Mexico nor have you established a causal relationship. I mean I'm as pro 2nd ammendment as the next guy. I'm not some slobering NRA nut but I do defend it but your point is such a vast stretch at to be laughable.
 
It didn't. It's not only a stupid point. It's irrelevent, has no bearing in the incident in Mexico nor have you established a causal relationship. I mean I'm as pro 2nd ammendment as the next guy. I'm not some slobering NRA nut but I do defend it but your point is such a vast stretch at to be laughable.

as i said, its over your head

capt' got it with no problem
 
It didn't. It's not only a stupid point. It's irrelevent, has no bearing in the incident in Mexico nor have you established a causal relationship. I mean I'm as pro 2nd ammendment as the next guy. I'm not some slobering NRA nut but I do defend it but your point is such a vast stretch at to be laughable.

The relationship is that Mexico has a high crime rate with very strict laws in regards to gun control; laws that some would like to see implemented here as means to reduce our crime rate. But the problem in that association of stricter laws=less crime when such things occur, especially with the frequency that it does in Mexico, never really works out.

In reality gun supply=/= high or low crime, but the comparison is still valid in the fact the such laws only prohibit and are almost always tied to a loss of other freedoms. If you'd like, I have a very well written (though LONG) paper written on how it happened in Britain.
 
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Capt is a boarderline retard. So he thinks more guns in Mexico is the answer. Brilliant

I just said that the gun rate doesn't correlate to the crime rate you uncomprehending fool. You may be able to pick a decent stock, but you'd fail a 5th grade English class based on your ability to read and write shown on this board.
 
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I just said that the gun rate doesn't correlate to the crime rate you uncomprehending fool. You may be able to pick a decent stock, but you'd fail a 5th grade English class based on your ability to read and write shown on this board.

Yeah those thousands of us made assault rifles aren't killing anyone in Mexico. Capt NRA is earning your dues. You really believe the talking points they sell you.
 
Yeah those thousands of us made assault rifles aren't killing anyone in Mexico. Capt NRA is earning your dues. You really believe the talking points they sell you.
Again, I'm pretty sure that if assault rifles were used, they would be Russian, not American. This is based on:
PRICE:A Ak of any model will sell for between $20-$40 in most countries on the black market, especially with over 100,000,000 made
AVAILABILITY:Not only were there over 100,000,000 AKs made around the globe, a great number of their were supplied to South American governments AND guerrilla forces during and after the cold war.

Now to play the other side of my argument, let's assume I'm wrong and that the guns used were manufactured in the U.S.

The U.S. has shipped arms to several South American governments AND guerrilla groups as well, to counter Russian influence, so this would fall on the GOVERNMENT, who ordered, paid, and shipped them to those countries.

What about individual sales here in America? Good question. Why would I, a criminal, go to a gun store, risk getting denied on my 4473 (a felony itself), pay between $500-$5000 (depending on choice of firearm), when I can get one off of a crooked cop or the black market in Mexico or South America?

Or are those facts and logic talking points too?
 
Marijuana is far and away the largest cash crop of Mexican cartels. It is very difficult to get Americans or Mexicans to mule cocaine into the US. It is a federal crime and the feds actually prosecute it. Living in the Juarez, El Paso Las Cruces drug corridor I KNOW what the feds won't prosecute. The federal government does not prosecute marijuana trafficking under 100 pounds in this sector at all. Instead, State prosecutors try these cases under the HIDTA grants. However, ANY amount of Cocaine caught at the border or at Border Patrol Check points are prosecuted in federal court. The difference is stark. In this district, 3rd Judicial District in NM, under 100 pounds, no priors, automatic probation. If you are less than 50lbs, first offense I can get you a conditional Discharge which means no criminal record after 18 months of probation. No such animal for the Federal Government and NO ONE snitches. If you legalize marijuana you would kill the cartels.
 
Yeah those thousands of us made assault rifles aren't killing anyone in Mexico. Capt NRA is earning your dues. You really believe the talking points they sell you.

do you have even the slightest infinitesimal clue how damned hard it is in the US for a civilian to actually buy a machine gun, let alone 'gun run' hundreds to mexico?

stop being a moron.
 
do you have even the slightest infinitesimal clue how damned hard it is in the US for a civilian to actually buy a machine gun, let alone 'gun run' hundreds to mexico?

stop being a moron.

I agree. The guns are coming from the US not Russia. The US drug lords have more reason to arm the mexican gangs. Protect their interests. Drugs.

Although Marijuana is a major crop? I think they make most of their money from Cocaine and Heroin. That is why they risk trafficking it.

Legalizing weed would be minor.
 
I agree. The guns are coming from the US not Russia. The US drug lords have more reason to arm the mexican gangs. Protect their interests. Drugs.

Que? STY was in agreement with me. And I'm pretty sure the Mexican cartels arms themselves, whether with old Soviet weapons from the cold war or old American weapons from the cold war. In either case, it does not matter and is not connected in any way shape or form to the American gun industry.
 
Yeah those thousands of us made assault rifles aren't killing anyone in Mexico. Capt NRA is earning your dues. You really believe the talking points they sell you.

spot eating the spoon fed drool from your left wing hack sites....even if america didn't make any guns, they would still have guns....

it is moronic to thing all the guns come solely from america guns are made in over 80 countries...but you go on hating america
 
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