Biden fights to lower health care costs

[Port Tack]

TANSTAAFL. Communism doesn't work, dude. Incredibly high taxes are the 'premiums'.

None of the top 10 countries in the world for healthcare are communist but every one of them have a universal healthcare plan for their citizens.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Even if this wasn't bullshit it does not change the fact that without SS we would have millions entering retirement with nothing but their shirts on their backs and the taxpayers would foot the welfare to support them.

Neither you nor I can prove that either way. People that pay into social security could put that same money into various savings and investment accounts on their own and end up with the same or better retirement. Or, are you claiming most people are simply too stupid to save for retirement on their own?

You are full of shit. You don't get much shittier healthcare than you do in the USA. We rank way behind Canada and your lies don't change that fact.

The quality of US healthcare is top notch. It's far better than almost any other country on the planet. But do feel free to toss one or more of those so-called 'studies' where they measure the quality of healthcare not by outcomes but by how socialized the system is to try and prove otherwise...

 

[T. A. Gardner]

None of the top 10 countries in the world for healthcare are communist but every one of them have a universal healthcare plan for their citizens.

Socialized healthcare doesn't provide "better" healthcare. It simply equalizes what healthcare there is for the bulk of the population. The Rich and political leaders still use private providers of much higher quality.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

What an idiot.

YES, you ARE a fucking idiot for proposing such a solution. THANK YOU for acknowledging that. NOW, come up with a serious solution instead of your democrat idolatry and hatred of capitalism

 

[Into the Night]

Your free market healthcare has this country ranked about 40th in the world for healthcare and with a life expectancy dropping.

Blatant lie.

All those countries who treat healthcare as a right and not a privelidge are the ones ranked well ahead of us with climbing life expectancies to prove it.

Blatant lie.

Free market healthcare just means a lot of people simply won't get any.

Blatant lie.

 

[Into the Night]

The RePIGnants will fight him every step of the way.

They are the reason why health care costs are so high and going higher.

Yes... 'they' being DEMOCRATS. It is DEMOCRATS that passed ObamaCare...a disaster.

 

[Into the Night]

The USA is ranked about 40th in healthcare but we know you are stupid enough to believe Trump won the election so you can believe whatever the fuck you want to concerning healthcare too. Nobody gives a shit what you believe.

Blatant lie.
Trump has never lost an election.

You don't get to speak for everybody.

 

[Into the Night]

All those wonderful accomplishments might be pretty good if everyone could get them, but they can't.
That's funny that "covid doesn't kill" More americans died from covid than all the American lives lost in the civil war, WWII, Korean war, VietNam war and afghanistan PUT TOGETHER and did it in under 3 years versus over 20 and it "didn't kill"?

Blatant lie. Covid does not kill. It has killed NO ONE.

DEMOCRATS, however, HAVE killed. Your mandates have killed. The crime you openly support has killed. The burning and pillaging of American cities has killed. The slaves you kept and the slaves you openly allow coming across the border have been killed. The wars you start and continue to support have killed. The murdering of children that YOU support is killing. The fentynal you openly support being brought into this country has killed.

Fuck you.

 

[Into the Night]

This is incorrect. Biden thinks people are stupider than he is. He measures himself as a really smart guy, but is actually a moron. So, he thinks others have to be far more stupid than he is and he can't figure out shit for himself...

You just agreed with Tinkerpeach and say his statement is incorrect?? Perhaps you should more clearly specify the difference.

 

[Into the Night]

you're suggesting that biden would become a dictator and make all medical employees, services, and properties property of the USA to provide free services???

Sounds like what he's suggesting to me, and he even supports it!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You just agreed with Tinkerpeach and say his statement is incorrect?? Perhaps you should more clearly specify the difference.

The difference was a matter of degree. Tinker was saying Biden thinks people are stupid without noting that Joke himself is a moron. He appears, today, to be the ultimate example of both the Dunning-Kruger effect and the Peter Principle all in one...

 

[Into the Night]

Canadians come to Arizona all the time to cross into Mexico to get prescriptions and medical work done because it's cheaper and more reliable than Canadian government run healthcare.

A few problems with that statement:

Canadians still have to pay for their 'free' healthcare whether they travel to Mexico or the U.S. to get healthcare...so it's not cheaper. It's more expensive. Why then do they do it?

Because Canadian 'free' healthcare isn't...healthcare. Treatments are simply not available for MONTHS. Euthanasia is the latest thing Canadian 'free' 'healthcare' is providing!

So Canadians that can afford to are willing to travel hundreds if not thousands of miles AND spend the extra money to do it, to get healthcare AT ALL.

 

[Into the Night]

If the Failed Elite Class had any interest in fixing our deeply broken healthcare industry they would have made an effort during the Obama years.

It ain't happening folks.

It's the Obama years that cause the current problem!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

A few problems with that statement:

Canadians still have to pay for their 'free' healthcare whether they travel to Mexico or the U.S. to get healthcare...so it's not cheaper. It's more expensive. Why then do they do it?

Because Canadian 'free' healthcare isn't...healthcare. Treatments are simply not available for MONTHS. Euthanasia is the latest thing Canadian 'free' 'healthcare' is providing!

Well, many come because Canadian healthcare doesn't cover the procedure(s) they need. For example, they often come because their healthcare system doesn't cover dental and that's far cheaper in Mexico.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It's the Obama years that cause the current problem!

No, but Obama while claiming to be fixing healthcare actually made no effort to solve the core problems, and in fact made them worse.

 

[Into the Night]

Even if this wasn't bullshit it does not change the fact that without SS we would have millions entering retirement with nothing but their shirts on their backs and the taxpayers would foot the welfare to support them.

SS leaves millions with little more than the shirts on their back. You are forced to invest into SS through taxes. You get no choice. The return on that investment is a pittance of 88 cents for every dollar invested. It is an investment LOSS.

You are full of shit. You don't get much shittier healthcare than you do in the USA.

Ingrate.

I have already listed all the improvements in healthcare around the world BECAUSE OF how good healthcare was here (until it was fucked up by DEMOCRATS!).

We rank way behind Canada and your lies don't change that fact.

Canada does not have healthcare. The 'healthcare' the government provides is far from free. Treatments are simply not available. Euthanasia is considered 'healthcare'.
Canada is currently a dictatorship.

No...I don't want to live in anything like what Canada is right now.

...and you want the States to become a dictatorship just like Canada. No thanks.


This is so typical of Democrats...pointing to their own disastrous failures as a 'success'.

 

[Into the Night]

They did. Nothing has given more Americans healthcare than the affordable care act. Just because a party has a majority doesn't mean they can fix or change everything when nearly half is against them.

Blatant lie. ObamaCare DESTROYED a lot of healthcare. It tried to nationalize healthcare insurance. It caused health insurance rates to rise dramatically. It put hospitals in a position that they could not operate efficiently.
ObamaCare is unconstitutional as well. NOTHING gives Congress the right or authority to implement communism.

 

[Into the Night]

What an idiot.

Trying to deny what you posted now?

 

[Into the Night]

None of the top 10 countries in the world for healthcare are communist but every one of them have a universal healthcare plan for their citizens.

Universal healthcare IS communism, dumbass.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Blatant lie. ObamaCare DESTROYED a lot of healthcare. It tried to nationalize healthcare insurance. It caused health insurance rates to rise dramatically. It put hospitals in a position that they could not operate efficiently.
ObamaCare is unconstitutional as well. NOTHING gives Congress the right or authority to implement communism.

Hospitals are closing and nearing bankruptcy, and doctors are leaving the profession in droves because the healthcare system is a disaster and nearing a crash.