Status of your father!

Jarod said:
But they end up ruining their reputation by having graduates like Trump and GWB.
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And Algore, John Kerry.

a Black student in the fourth-lowest academic decile had a higher chance of admission to Harvard than an Asian student in the top decile.

June 29, 2023, NYT



Think that ^ little factoid helps their academic reputation? Hmm?
 
Nordberg said:
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The big colleges are sitting on tons of money. In college, you buy your own supplies besides paying bigly for education. Books are way overpriced.
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Tuition is like $60K+, room and board $20K and your gripe is with the cost of books?
 
Nordberg said:
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The big colleges are sitting on tons of money. In college, you buy your own supplies besides paying bigly for education. Books are way overpriced.
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True. Harvard could easily give 100% tuition free scholarships to hundreds of students a year for eternity with their level of endowments and money banked. But they don't. Sounds like robber baron capitalists run the university to me...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
True. Harvard could easily give 100% tuition free scholarships to hundreds of students a year for eternity with their level of endowments and money banked. But they don't. Sounds like robber baron capitalists run the university to me...
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Aren't most Deans Democrats?
 
Jarod said:
Supreme court says racy cannot be a factor for admissions, but status of your father can.

If your parents can donate a huge chunk of money or if granddaddy graduated that can be the only factor.
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Status of your father is not protected by the Constitution. Race is. What kind of lawyer does not see that? Gees Jarod...do better.
 
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Jarod said:
Supreme court says racy cannot be a factor for admissions, but status of your father can.

If your parents can donate a huge chunk of money or if granddaddy graduated that can be the only factor.
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Not a lawyer, but isn't it ending the requirement to look at race? If a college wants to admit NAACP members, isn't that their choice?
 
Jarod said:
34 percent of Harvard students are white. 43 percent of those students are either legacies, children of faculty, kin of donors or a recruited athlete. 75 percent of them would not have gotten in if not for special status (National Bureau of Economic Research).
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~ 60% of Americans are white so apparently whites are under represented in Harvard. Sounds like Harvard is admitting White kids for the wrong reasons.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I was under the impression, having graduated from one, that private universities could do whatever they wanted.
If not, what makes them private?
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The decision applies to one public university and Harvard, which is a private university but is subject to the decision since it receives public funds.
 
martin said:
The decision applies to one public university and Harvard, which is a private university but is subject to the decision since it receives public funds.
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After the Supreme Court decision, do you really believe that any university is going to use race as a determinant for entrance to their university and risk billions in lawsuits?

Really, Marty?
 
Tinkerpeach said:
If someone donates 10 million dollars would you not let their kid in even if not qualified?

That money could be used to help so many students or to buy teaching supplies or to reduce costs of school books, all that good for letting one unqualified student in.
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No, most ethical people would not admit an unqualified student despite the amount of money Fred Trump donated to them.

Rather than looking at race, why not award "points" (or whatever they call their systems) based on h.s. academic achievement (#1), economic status of the applicant's high school with points going to a student from less affluent areas with rural or urban, major/area of study (is it in a field that is likely to be in demand, like STEM?).
 
Earl said:
After the Supreme Court decision, do you really believe that any university is going to use race as a determinant for entrance to their university and risk billions in lawsuits?

Really, Marty?
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The problem with you as a foil, Earl, which is all you are, is you're too easy. The question was why would Harvard as a private university be subject to the ruling and the answer is that any university that accepts public funds, and Harvard does accept them,
is subject to Title VI. The court's precedent would not apply to Harvard otherwise. That question of law was the sum total of the post and answer.
 
waaaah, we can't use race, but what about that other example over there.

In no way are you defending race based decisions. You are just engaging in childish whataboutism
 
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