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BidenPresident
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America's ugly secret: Race is a cover for economic disparity.
It’s a way of grandfathering in some extra benefits for white people.
Affirmative action is horrible…
Letting those with generational wealth is fine, even though we severely discriminated against groups last generation.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I was under the impression, having graduated from one, that private universities could do whatever they wanted.
If not, what makes them private?
If not, what makes them private?
Not whatever they want, but certainly more than those run by public money.
NiftyNiblick
1960s Chick Magnet
I was thinking in terms of admissions.
I'm largely indifferent to the SCOTUS decision
except for figuring that it has to be wrong
based solely on who voted for what.
cawacko
Well-known member
Where does it state they would not have gotten in? Isn't that like assuming every black person only got in because of AA and none qualified on their own?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
This is partially bullshit. Sure, rich parents can bribe their kids into a college. Parents who are not so rich but connected--Joe Biden and Al Gore sr. to name two--can get their dumbass kids into a good university too. Those universities tolerate such students because they want the money.
On the other hand, using factors other than ability and intellect for the majority of students is a disservice to the student and the university. When race is considered ahead of ability, universities often end up taking students of a particular ethnic background that can't manage the coursework and end up not finishing the degree program. These students might well have succeeded at a lesser university or college so it really is a disservice to take them. Race should not be a factor in admissions any more than gender should be.
Tinkerpeach
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If someone donates 10 million dollars would you not let their kid in even if not qualified?
That money could be used to help so many students or to buy teaching supplies or to reduce costs of school books, all that good for letting one unqualified student in.
That money could be used to help so many students or to buy teaching supplies or to reduce costs of school books, all that good for letting one unqualified student in.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I got into Valparaiso by offering to be their token Iowa farm boy......
But they end up ruining their reputation by having graduates like Trump and GWB.
BidenPresident
Verified User
Legacy admissions far outweigh anything by affirmative action.
serendipity
Verified User
Jarhead on bullshit max!
Guno צְבִי
We fight, We win, Am Yisrael Chai
And Valparaiso got rid of their law program
Coincidence?
OPINION
DAVID FRENCH
Harvard Undermined Itself on Affirmative Action
June 29, 2023
The defendant, Harvard, had repeatedly undermined its own case for race-conscious affirmative action, and the court’s new precedent outlaws racial discrimination in admissions while still preserving the state’s ability to respond to the legacy of past injustice.
To understand why Harvard lost — and why race-based affirmative action in public colleges and federally funded private schools is now unlawful — it’s necessary to understand two key facts about the case. First, the evidence is overwhelming that Harvard actively discriminated against Asian applicants. As Chief Justice John Roberts notes in his majority opinion, a Black student in the fourth-lowest academic decile had a higher chance of admission to Harvard than an Asian student in the top decile.
As if these facts weren’t bad enough, Harvard specifically rejected alternative, race-blind formulations that could have achieved comparable student diversity. As Justice Neil Gorsuch notes in his concurrence, the plaintiffs in the case submitted evidence that “Harvard could nearly replicate the current racial composition of its student body without resorting to race-based practices,” if it gave socioeconomically disadvantaged students just half the advantage it gave recruited athletes and if it eliminated preferences for “the children of donors, alumni, and faculty.”
…NYT
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The big colleges are sitting on tons of money. In college, you buy your own supplies besides paying bigly for education. Books are way overpriced.
This generation especially. Asians.
OPINION
GUEST ESSAY
Here’s a Look Inside the Racial Gaming of Admissions.
June 29, 2023
Many prestigious institutions have themselves racially gamified the admissions process, finding ways to maximize diversity without making dents in their endowments. For example, some colleges and universities boost diversity statistics on the cheap by accepting minority students who can pay full freight. And even purportedly need-blind institutions seem to have a remarkable track record of recruiting minority students who don’t need financial aid. (By some estimates, over 70 percent of Harvard’s Black, Latino and Native American students have college-educated parents with incomes above the national median.)
..NYT
(Opinion written by a black professor)