Does trump have a viable defense?

[Celticguy]

I read the indictment, and I do not see a viable defense for Trump? Does anybody have any kind of defense to the allegations against Trump? I’m not talking about whining about pretend arguments that other people did the same thing, I’m talking about an honest defense

There isn’t one.

Alan Dershowitz says yes. (not sure I spelled his name correctly)
Perhaps more correctly he says the obstruction charges do not meet the standard.

 

[Jarod]

Alan Dershowitz says yes. (not sure I spelled his name correctly)
Perhaps more correctly he says the obstruction charges do not meet the standard.

Trump has the goods on Dershowitz and his time on pedo island. Even so it’s one of the 37 charges.

 

[Concart]

The Nixon defense. If the President does it, it means it is legal.

For obstruction it’s open and shut. Unfortunately for him the crimes were committed when he was no longer president.

 

[Jarod]

No, Trump is a well known and vigorous enemy of the Regime....he must be punished as a lesson to the rest that disturbances in the solidarity will not be tolerated.

Does he have a defense?

 

[Ross Dolan]

IF they are declassified then why does Trump on tape say he can't show them to people because they are secret? Why did the Trump administration argue in court that Trump can't simply say something is declassified and then it is?

The problem with the "he declassified them" argument is that then those documents are subject to FOIA requests. I doubt the government will honor any of those requests which will show the documents are still classified.

The question of whether any of the documents are still classified or not...is not the issue at hand. The subpoena to return certain documents did NOT ask for Trump to return "classified documents", but rather to return documents MARKED CLASSIFIED.

If they were MARKED CLASSIFIED, whether they still were classified or not...Trump was ordered to return them.

He refused to do so.

Might be a good idea to buy stock in Orville Redenbacher's company. Gonna be a lot of popcorn sold this year and next.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Note: Truth Deflector is the only Trumpper dumb enough to spew shit here.

Nah, pEarl believes whatever TD is bleating, as well. He's often repeated the lie that the classified materials were declassified because his #MalignantMessiah said so. pEarl doesn't believe that #TRE45ON showed them to ppl without clearance and told them that they were "secret," even though he was recorded saying so.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

TD belongs on your ignore list.

That's where I've kept him for years. Only see his dreck when someone quotes it.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

No, Trump is a well known and vigorous enemy of the Regime....he must be punished as a lesson to the rest that disturbances in the solidarity will not be tolerated.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I read the indictment, and I do not see a viable defense for Trump? Does anybody have any kind of defense to the allegations against Trump? I’m not talking about whining about pretend arguments that other people did the same thing, I’m talking about an honest defense

There isn’t one.

everything he is charged with is a process crime......all are dependent on the commission of another crime.....there wasn't any.....

 

[PostmodernProphet]

There is zero similarity between Clinton and Trump. The evidence against him is overwhelming.

you've been telling us that for seven years.......obviously the "overwhelming" evidence hasn't been enough so far.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I read the indictment. It lays out evidence of the crimes. .

yes......indictments are supposed to do that.......next will be a trial......that's when the prosecutor has to prove shit.........you lib'ruls like to skip that part.......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Note: Truth Deflector is the only Trumpper dumb enough to spew shit here.

on the other hand, ALL the lib'ruls are here spewing shit......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Trump has the goods on Dershowitz and his time on pedo island. Even so it’s one of the 37 charges.

I like the fact you need to resort to calling Trump a pedophile to make him look bad, even while bragging about 37 charges against him......shows how weak YOU think the charges are against him...

 

[PostmodernProphet]

For obstruction it’s open and shut. Unfortunately for him the crimes were committed when he was no longer president.

unfortunately for you, you will never be able to prove an underlying crime.......

 

[Phantasmal]

Lawyers are very clever individuals...or at least, some lawyers are.

Do not be surprised at the defense they present. Their main problem will be their client. He will be advised to shut the hell up...and he will ignore that advice.

My guess is that Trump will be convicted. Whether he spends any time behind bars is another question completely.

Also, the rulings of the judge are always important. This judge is a MAGA moron. That will impact, although I think the prosecution gets past that. I am hoping that she does not overrule the piercing of the of lawyer/client privilege. (Not sure if she can.) That issue could take a long time working its way through the SCOTUS.

I heard one of his former lawyers speak, they have no defense. He asked his lawyer to commit crimes. The last two lawyers that resigned were his top guns.

I think Trump has a lot to worry about.

 

[Phantasmal]

Alan Dershowitz says yes. (not sure I spelled his name correctly)
Perhaps more correctly he says the obstruction charges do not meet the standard.

Alan Dershowitz he’d say anything for a paycheck from Fox.

 

[martin]

Trump’s defense is being Donald Trump, Teflon Don, the guy who could shoot you on Fifth Avenue and if you were back on your feet when November came you would vote for him.

All the little Trumpers feel highly offended at this persecution by the Justice Department over nothing more than lies, obstruction and theft of a few dozen boxes of sensitive government property.

 

[floridafan]

you've been telling us that for seven years.......obviously the "overwhelming" evidence hasn't been enough so far.......

If there was any evidence against Clinton, the Trump Justice Dept would have acted. They passed on any indictment, so fuck off

 

[Jarod]

How can he have a defense when the government has audio and video tapes along with his lawyers notes. If his valet works out a plea deal, it’s game, set and match over.

The only defense I’ve seen is to claim the government is lying about the audio and video tapes. Not sure they will offer the valet a deal because they don’t need him.

 

[Jarod]

everything he is charged with is a process crime......all are dependent on the commission of another crime.....there wasn't any.....

Untrue, unlawful retention of documents is not a “process crime”.