A picture that's worth one thousand stolen E-Mails

Why trust hacked Emails? First of all it's a crime to hack and second of all it could have easily been tainted. And why do people think it's some big thing to prove if the Earth isn't having climate changes? You still have to take care of the Earth to live on it and be healthy. I live in a city that yrs ago used to be so filthy and now yrs later we're beautiful and I'm proud of that.
 
wanderingbear said:
I dont care what these E-Mails say. "Their most likely fakes".

Climate change is happening.Sence we cant yet move to another planet were stuck with the environment we have.We live in a fish bowl. everthing that we put into the environment stays in the environment and dosn't go away just because to put it in the trash.It only makes logical sence. We can help but changes in the climate and environment.
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Of course climate change is happening. It has been happening for billions of years (or 8000 for those who believe the bible is exact)
 
Yurt said:
you have no truth, we've seen the emails that admit its all lies :pke:
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So you're going to stop recycling and doing common sense things because some person somewhere says so? We're all on this planet and we're all going to deal with weather issues. And as I said you shouldn't go with hacked Emails. For all you know they could have erased things and changed it claiming it to be from this person. And even though science will always prove the evidence over a humans opinion. The science proves it.
 
Epicurus said:
As someone who has been on the fence on global warming for a long time, watching this unfold has definitely pushed me into the skeptic zone. Seeing how the scientists involved are biased at best and manipulating data at worst has made me skeptical about the soundness of the theory as a whole. I do not pretend to have studied the issue extensively. It does not interest me remotely. But I do feel that my opinion is a decent indicator of the public at large on this issue, simply because my knowledge about global warming comes almost exclusively from news headlines. Does ClimateGate show that global warming is a hoax? Certainly not. But it does suggest to observers that they should employ a degree of caution in accepting the conclusions of these scientific bodies as infallible. Seeing the agenda that at least a handful of top scientists were openly pushing in their email exchanges should warn casual observers who have not had the time or desire to research the issue extensively to be cautious about accepting the scientific communities' conclusions as Gospel.
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Lol I love you saying scientists have agenda's haha. A scientist isn't a preacher.
 
SouthernBelle82 said:
Why trust hacked Emails? First of all it's a crime to hack and second of all it could have easily been tainted. And why do people think it's some big thing to prove if the Earth isn't having climate changes? You still have to take care of the Earth to live on it and be healthy. I live in a city that yrs ago used to be so filthy and now yrs later we're beautiful and I'm proud of that.
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While I agree we should do everything we can to reduce pollution and our dependency on fossil fuels, I do not believe in the AGW theory. I don't think ANYONE is trying to prove that climate change isn't happening. People are trying to say the theory that man is causing the environment to warm is nothing more than fear mongering by those who wish for faster movement toward a cleaner environment.

I think these emails go to show that they will go to any lengths to further their cause. In my opinion actions such as theirs diminish their cause.
 
Yurt said:
they manipulated the data....they were not unbiased and scientific....it shows they falsely portrayed the data.....

MSM or obama media ignored this story for weeks.....they just recently started talking about it....you can't sweep this under rug....and all your graphs prove squat, as they are probably based on the bogus data....
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Them or the hacker? You don't know that do you? And hey if you don't want to take care of the Earth that's your deal. You aren't living with me.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
"got Gore and other social liberals rich scam"

Well considering his home uses more than 20 times the national average, he needs that money to pay the utility company.

Now he's saying he hasn't read the emails in question, and then turns around and says they're about 10 yrs old. Those would be last months emails.

The man is a liar. He whines: Do you think I would spend the last 30 yrs of my career to promote a lie?

Answer: You bet your sweet ass I do if it's paying for the energy your raping from out coffers, asshole!
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And your credibility is...?
 
SouthernBelle82 said:
And it's only going to keep going and more people are going to be born. So?
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The point is, the global warming fear mongers have now switched to calling the oncoming 'catastrophe': "climate change".

This allows them to proclaim that every shift in the climate is because of MANKIND. Blah blah blah. The climate is always going to be changing. It is pure arrogance to believe that we can control it. Yes, we can reduce our pollution and dependency on fossil fuels. We should do just that. But all this money, time and intellectual capacity that is being wasted on a fake catastrophe is a crime.
 
ib1yysguy said:
13 years of emails and the most damning thing they could come up with was them talking about how they couldn't account for the cooling and they used actual recorded temperatures rather than tree ring data because the recorded temps were accurate and the tree rings were not.

AGW is DEAD OMG!
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Shit that's what you read in my astronomy book. :readit:
 
Superfreak said:
While I agree we should do everything we can to reduce pollution and our dependency on fossil fuels, I do not believe in the AGW theory. I don't think ANYONE is trying to prove that climate change isn't happening. People are trying to say the theory that man is causing the environment to warm is nothing more than fear mongering by those who wish for faster movement toward a cleaner environment.

I think these emails go to show that they will go to any lengths to further their cause. In my opinion actions such as theirs diminish their cause.
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Of course man is doing shit. Look at bombs and nuclear facilities and gas and all the pollution that gets into our air. Where does it go? Whose cause?
 
ib1yysguy said:
13 years of emails and the most damning thing they could come up with was them talking about how they couldn't account for the cooling and they used actual recorded temperatures rather than tree ring data because the recorded temps were accurate and the tree rings were not.

AGW is DEAD OMG!
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ROFLMAO.... so the tree ring data was not accurate after 1960, but those same tree rings ARE accurate prior to that?

Yeah, that makes sense... the trees just learned how to start lying to us.
 
Superfreak said:
The point is, the global warming fear mongers have now switched to calling the oncoming 'catastrophe': "climate change".

This allows them to proclaim that every shift in the climate is because of MANKIND. Blah blah blah. The climate is always going to be changing. It is pure arrogance to believe that we can control it. Yes, we can reduce our pollution and dependency on fossil fuels. We should do just that. But all this money, time and intellectual capacity that is being wasted on a fake catastrophe is a crime.
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Uh it kinda is a climate change. Have you not been paying attention? Places are having rougher hurricanes for example. So you're a scientist? What's your credentials? Why should people believe someone on an opinion message forum over a scientist who's job it is to know science? And you can look for yourself as I said. Science proves it. Science doesn't lie.
 
SouthernBelle82 said:
Of course man is doing shit. Look at bombs and nuclear facilities and gas and all the pollution that gets into our air. Where does it go? Whose cause?
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Do try to read AND comprehend. As I stated, we need to clean up our pollutants. What we do not need is all the fear mongering about global catastrophes caused by man. Given that the earth was warmer during the medieval period and yet somehow the planet survived with millions of species intact, means the whole fear mongering 'da sky is falling' 'da world will end' bullshit is counterproductive.
 
Superfreak said:
Do try to read AND comprehend. As I stated, we need to clean up our pollutants. What we do not need is all the fear mongering about global catastrophes caused by man. Given that the earth was warmer during the medieval period and yet somehow the planet survived with millions of species intact, means the whole fear mongering 'da sky is falling' 'da world will end' bullshit is counterproductive.
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Dude, this guy is straight comedy.
 
Superfreak said:
Do try to read AND comprehend. As I stated, we need to clean up our pollutants. What we do not need is all the fear mongering about global catastrophes caused by man. Given that the earth was warmer during the medieval period and yet somehow the planet survived with millions of species intact, means the whole fear mongering 'da sky is falling' 'da world will end' bullshit is counterproductive.
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Lol. So scientists telling you the truth about the science is now fear mongering. Dang I'd hate to see what your ghost stories are like. Oh and you insulting me is also counterproductive on your behalf so keep that to yourself if you want me to take you seriously. Oh and you don't have much science and facts on your side apparently if you have to resort to insults to whether me or the scientists.
 
SouthernBelle82 said:
Uh it kinda is a climate change. Have you not been paying attention? Places are having rougher hurricanes for example. So you're a scientist? What's your credentials? Why should people believe someone on an opinion message forum over a scientist who's job it is to know science? And you can look for yourself as I said. Science proves it. Science doesn't lie.
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So what you are saying is that you are retarded and incapable of reading comprehension?
 
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