Vermont just outlawed self defense

the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.
 
LOL. You know it's bad when the two dumbest (I think it's an act) members on the board are fighting.
 
the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.

Yeah, everybody can’t survive without their paramilitary training, you never know when Attila and the Huns are going to invade your town
 
​Though Vermont does not have a stand your ground statute, the state supreme court has held that there is no duty to retreat before using force in public.
It is now officially illegal to train somebody for a criminal insurrection, however.

The reichnuts on this forum might be good for spreading agricultural fertilizer, maybe, but certainly not for anything else.
 
the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.

Utterly and completely unconstitutional.
 
the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.

I am quite adept at self defense, and I don't require a gun. So no, self defense was not outlawed. They just won't let dumb fucks like you meet in the woods to drink beer and shoot shit. Tough. It's going to get a LOT worse for scumbags like you.
 
I am quite adept at self defense, and I don't require a gun. So no, self defense was not outlawed. They just won't let dumb fucks like you meet in the woods to drink beer and shoot shit. Tough. It's going to get a LOT worse for scumbags like you.

I have medals and trophies--public record--and cannot defend myself against somebody ten or twenty feet away with a gun.
Nor could I have in my youth.

Let's not get carried away.

Vermont, however, did not outlaw self defense, with or without a gun.
As you noted, they outlawed idiot seditionists from forming private militias.
Every state should do that; certainly the civilized blue ones.
Fuck the second amendment and its stupid wording.
 
the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.

I didn't realize that bombings and attacks on the public were considered "self defense."

Only in the minds of the RW it seems.
 
the statists true intentions are laid out for all to see

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/...rnor-signs-law-banning-paramilitary-training/

§ 4071. PARAMILITARY TRAINING PROHIBITED
(a) A person shall not:

(1) teach, train, or demonstrate to any other person the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the teaching, training, or demonstrating is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder; or

(2) assemble with one or more other persons for the purpose of practicing or being taught, trained, or instructed in the use, application, or making of a firearm, explosive, or incendiary device capable of causing injury or death, or in techniques capable of causing injury or death to persons, if the person knows or reasonably should know that the practicing, teaching, training, or instruction is intended to be used in or in furtherance of a civil disorder.

You expecting a war?
 
I have medals and trophies--public record--and cannot defend myself against somebody ten or twenty feet away with a gun.
Nor could I have in my youth.

Let's not get carried away.

Vermont, however, did not outlaw self defense, with or without a gun.
As you noted, they outlawed idiot seditionists from forming private militias.
Every state should do that; certainly the civilized blue ones.
Fuck the second amendment and its stupid wording.

Agreed. When I was held up at gunpoint, I abandoned any Chuck Norris fantasies and complied. My point is that self defense in almost every case doesn't involve dealing with an armed person. Paramilitary training, which by and large involves a bunch of drunken male losers shooting guns in the woods and fantasizing about killing some libs, is no longer legal in Vermont. Move to Idaho, you'll have plenty of company.
 
They could have made a second amendment guaranteeing the right of private citizens in good legal standing to own firearms,
and then, as firearms evolved, they could have amended it to limit that right to reasonable types of firearms.

Instead, the fucking morons had to talk about militias, encouraging true idiots everywhere to become dime store Rambos.
 
I am quite adept at self defense, and I don't require a gun. So no, self defense was not outlawed. They just won't let dumb fucks like you meet in the woods to drink beer and shoot shit. Tough. It's going to get a LOT worse for scumbags like you.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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