Driven to suicide by weed: Familiar tale across USA...

Hawkeye10 said:
I have been watching lately testimonials form drug addicted street people on YouTubes and the question that pops to the top of my mind is "How many who are listed as OD's are actually suicides?". From a societal health standpoint suicides are worse than OD's, and we know that our overlords lie to us constantly, they actively work to get us to believe their fictions, they would certainly lie to us about this if they thought that they could get away with it.
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You can't OD on weed dumb ass
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Well, the negative effects of marijuana are only just now beginning to really become accurately documented. Weight for weight, marijuana is about three times as carcinogenous as tobacco. This is in part due to it being smoked unfiltered and closer to the butt of the joint, but it also has to do with it simply having more of the chemicals that cause cancer in it.

Then add that long term use increases your risk of becoming bipolar or schizophrenic, particularly the first, by about 20%.

The Māori of New Zealand are the heaviest users of marijuana on the planet and they don't generally use tobacco. The above has been found true of their ethnic group now for decades.
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Gummies
 
JesusAI said:
No it isn't.

if you trust the medical establishment you are retarded.

you are making an appeal to authority.

of course it's not good for lungs, I acknowledge that.

fluoride in the water does far worse harm than marijuana.
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Feel free to try and refute me using some facts and sources then. I'd expect you to post up some pro-marijuana site that makes all sorts of unbacked claims about it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is just an appeal to the stone using what amounts to an appeal to authority. It is almost self-evident that if you incinerate organic plant matter, you are going to get pretty much the same byproducts from that matter with variations in percent composition along with a few specific ones to the plant being burned. Therefore, it should be obvious that if you inhale those products of combustion into your lungs you are risking getting cancer as a result. Doesn't matter if it's tobacco, marijuana, or Bermuda grass for that matter. So, it should be self-evident to anyone with a scintilla of intelligence that smoking marijuana can cause cancer.

As to the mental health issues, that too should be almost self-evident. Again, marijuana is psychoactive and does build up in your system taking quite a while to fully wash out. There is every reason to believe that continuous use over a long period could result in changes to your brain chemistry and 'wiring' that result in psychiatric disorders occurring.
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You an expert? Or just blowing smoke out your asshole?
 
Dachshund said:
I am a qualified pharmacist. I have worked in community pharmacies and hospital pharmacy for close to 30 years.

With regard to cannabis, when it is smoked regularly over a lengthy period of time it is known to induce a range of mental disorders. A well known example is called amotivational syndrome. This presents as a lack of drive, motivation and energy. The individual effected become apathetic and loses interest in in setting and striving toward life goals. They also become sedentary and inactive (physically) their speech and reaction times slow down markedly as well. These symptoms are an ideal seed-bed for the emergance of mood disorders like dysthymia or major depressive disorder.

Although there have not been many large, mainstream, scientific,, research investigations in Oz into the long-term side-effects of smoking moderate to large doses of THC on a regular basis ( recreational cannabis is illegal in Oz, so research subjects are difficult to recruit). On a personal note, I have encountered many, long-term cannabis users over the years who displayed clear symptoms of amotivational disorder.


I would bet money that the abuse of recreational cannabis could very likely afflict users with depressive- type mood disorders.


Lastly, it seems to me that many people regard cannabis as a harmless, "toy" drug, that you can just fool around with whenever you want. theres a rule of thumb in pharmacology that says if you use a drug that hits your head pretty hard like speed/amphetamines/Cocaine:, oxycodone, LSD, Valium, Ecstasy (MDMA0) strong alcohol, etc; they you are playing wit fire, and it would be a good idea to throw the shit in the bin. Cannabis is "head gear" when you smoke a goodish amount of it , it really hits your head, Right" It alters your consciousness in unusual ways because it is known to have a psychotomimetis effect as well (i.e, something similar , thought milder than what hallucinogens like "Magic Mushrooms (Psilocybin), MDMA and mescaline have.


My advise is don't fuck around with drugs like the stuff I've mentioned above (including cannabis); they're really dangerous and if you get hooked on any of them you'll wish you were dead.



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM - Dachshund Lives Matter !!
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So you are still in the '50's
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I stated VERY clearly Weight for weight. That is an ounce of marijuana versus an ounce of tobacco. Same quantity measured by WEIGHT. Marijuana is 3 times more dangerous in terms of its potential to cause cancer. But most people use less marijuana than they would tobacco. It doesn't change the severity of the nature of either when compared on equal volume, but it does mitigate the comparative effect based on amount consumed per period of time.

As for addiction, you are wrong there too.

Is marijuana addictive?
Marijuana use can lead to the development of a substance use disorder, a medical illness in which the person is unable to stop using even though it's causing health and social problems in their life. Severe substance use disorders are also known as addiction. Research suggests that between 9 and 30 percent of those who use marijuana may develop some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before age 18 are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop a marijuana use disorder.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana

Approximately 1 in 10 people who use marijuana will become addicted. When they start before age 18, the rate of addiction rises to 1 in 6.
https://www.samhsa.gov/marijuana

It clearly isn't as addictive as tobacco, but it can be addictive.

Understand, I don't care if you use marijuana. Smoke your brain to death if that's what you like to do. But don't lie or repeat the lies that are out there about how marijuana use is virtually or completely harmless. It clearly is harmful just as tobacco and alcohol are. Be honest about it.
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Source?
 
Manfred Mason said:
What medical school did you graduate from Doctor?
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This is an irrelevant appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. I don't have to be a doctor, nor an expert on medicine, to be able to read studies and reports on marijuana usage and its effects on people. That's why I cite relevant studies by experts on this subject.

Think for a second on my earlier statement. If you ingest marijuana and the psychoactive ingredient is THC, how that is delivered into your bloodstream and to your brain doesn't change its effects on your brain. So, whether you smoke it or eat it, the THC has the same effect either way.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I stated VERY clearly Weight for weight. That is an ounce of marijuana versus an ounce of tobacco. Same quantity measured by WEIGHT. Marijuana is 3 times more dangerous in terms of its potential to cause cancer. But most people use less marijuana than they would tobacco. It doesn't change the severity of the nature of either when compared on equal volume, but it does mitigate the comparative effect based on amount consumed per period of time.

As for addiction, you are wrong there too.

Is marijuana addictive?
Marijuana use can lead to the development of a substance use disorder, a medical illness in which the person is unable to stop using even though it's causing health and social problems in their life. Severe substance use disorders are also known as addiction. Research suggests that between 9 and 30 percent of those who use marijuana may develop some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before age 18 are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop a marijuana use disorder.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana

Approximately 1 in 10 people who use marijuana will become addicted. When they start before age 18, the rate of addiction rises to 1 in 6.
https://www.samhsa.gov/marijuana

It clearly isn't as addictive as tobacco, but it can be addictive.

Understand, I don't care if you use marijuana. Smoke your brain to death if that's what you like to do. But don't lie or repeat the lies that are out there about how marijuana use is virtually or completely harmless. It clearly is harmful just as tobacco and alcohol are. Be honest about it.
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what are you saying anyway,

do you think it should be outlawed?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is an irrelevant appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. I don't have to be a doctor, nor an expert on medicine, to be able to read studies and reports on marijuana usage and its effects on people. That's why I cite relevant studies by experts on this subject.

Think for a second on my earlier statement. If you ingest marijuana and the psychoactive ingredient is THC, how that is delivered into your bloodstream and to your brain doesn't change its effects on your brain. So, whether you smoke it or eat it, the THC has the same effect either way.
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But you only read one side of the issue! The side you agree with! You're a fraud!And probably on the Down low!
 
T. A. Gardner said:
This is an irrelevant appeal to authority, a logical fallacy. I don't have to be a doctor, nor an expert on medicine, to be able to read studies and reports on marijuana usage and its effects on people. That's why I cite relevant studies by experts on this subject.

Think for a second on my earlier statement. If you ingest marijuana and the psychoactive ingredient is THC, how that is delivered into your bloodstream and to your brain doesn't change its effects on your brain. So, whether you smoke it or eat it, the THC has the same effect either way.
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Same applies to the caffeine you're hooked on!
 
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