Driven to suicide by weed: Familiar tale across USA...

[Nomad]

Well, the negative effects of marijuana are only just now beginning to really become accurately documented. Weight for weight, marijuana is about three times as carcinogenous as tobacco. This is in part due to it being smoked unfiltered and closer to the butt of the joint, but it also has to do with it simply having more of the chemicals that cause cancer in it.

Then add that long term use increases your risk of becoming bipolar or schizophrenic, particularly the first, by about 20%.

The Māori of New Zealand are the heaviest users of marijuana on the planet and they don't generally use tobacco. The above has been found true of their ethnic group now for decades.

One of the most common and popular ways to use cannabis today is edibles.

Gummies, brownies, etc.

How do those cause cancer?

Also, vaping takes a lot of the carcinogens out of the process.

The arguments against legalisation keep getting weaker and weaker.

 

[Concart]

I have been watching lately testimonials form drug addicted street people on YouTubes and the question that pops to the top of my mind is "How many who are listed as OD's are actually suicides?". From a societal health standpoint suicides are worse than OD's, and we know that our overlords lie to us constantly, they actively work to get us to believe their fictions, they would certainly lie to us about this if they thought that they could get away with it.

You are a drunk and a sexual deviant. Clean up your own house.

 

[Concart]

I wonder what percentage of them used an easily available/accessible GUN to kill themselves with...

But hey, let's continue to figure out slick, doublespeak methods of deflecting blame for suicide and other violence, away from guns and direct it elsewhere.

As usual.

So, maybe, just maybe, MORE PEOPLE ARE USING MARIJUANA than they were before. So of course, more of every single demographic will have marijuana in their system, including suicide victims, people with the flu, people with arthritis, people with Graves disease, people with COPD, people with blue eyes...... None of those things are CAUSED by pot. Another absolute epic thread fail from the racist moron of the forum, volsrock.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

this is some reefer madness bullshit bro.

weed undoes trauma based mind control, that's why the establishment hates it.

the truth is people drink less when there's weed around also, thus pissing off the big alcohol industrial complex.

'Epidemic' of cannabis use tied to Maori cancer rate
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/epi...maori-cancer-rate/76GDQ5QAGG26RDEHTPVNH3BYZ4/

Hui hailed as first step in tackling 'huge and terrible' Māori cancer rates
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-...tackling-huge-and-terrible-maori-cancer-rates

“Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share carcinogens, including toxic gases, reactive oxygen species, and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, such as benzo[alpha]pyrene and phenols, which are 20 times higher in unfiltered marijuana than in cigarette smoke,” write first author Dr. Mehrnaz Ghasemiesfe and colleagues.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327230

Weight for weight (eg., equal amounts) of marijuana smoked is more carcinogenic than tobacco smoked. That is a fact, and one that is gaining more and more study that proves it.

Schizophrenia and Marijuana: Trigger or Treatment?
https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-marijuana-link

Using Marijuana Has Been Linked to Psychiatric Disorders
There is evidence that links marijuana use with an increased risk of psychiatric disorders, including schizophrenia, says Streem. “A 2002 study found the more marijuana an adult consumed, the higher their risk of developing schizophrenia. The authors concluded that 13 percent of the schizophrenia cases in their cohort could be attributed to smoking cannabis,”
https://www.everydayhealth.com/schi...higher their risk of developing schizophrenia.

The relationship between cannabis (marijuana) use and psychiatric disorders is complex, and more research is needed to better understand the short- and long-term impacts of cannabis use on mental health. Considerable evidence has linked cannabis use to earlier onset of psychosis in people with genetic risk factors for psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia, as well as worse symptoms in people who already have these conditions. Although less consistent, there is also evidence linking cannabis use to other mental illnesses and self-harm, including suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/r...k-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders

Using marijuana, particularly regularly and heavily, increases the chances you develop mental health issues.

None of that is "Reefer Madness." It is fact, and it is becoming far more concrete as studies on the effects of marijuana increase in scope and number.

 

[Concart]

One of the most common and popular ways to use cannabis today is edibles.

Gummies, brownies, etc.

How do those cause cancer?

Also, vaping takes a lot of the carcinogens out of the process.

The arguments against legalisation keep getting weaker and weaker.

RSO. It's your friend

 

[T. A. Gardner]

One of the most common and popular ways to use cannabis today is edibles.

Gummies, brownies, etc.

How do those cause cancer?

Also, vaping takes a lot of the carcinogens out of the process.

The arguments against legalisation keep getting weaker and weaker.

I was discussing marijuana smoked. But ingestion by eating it still has the potential to increase your risk of developing mental health issues.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Nobody has ever, in all of history, been driven to suicide by weed.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

That film was released ten years before i was born.
Even Apisa was an infant.

When I finally did see it, I realized that I'd missed nothing.

I was hoping it would at least be campy enough for laughs,
but there really was only a little of even that.
Not enough to make it worth sitting through.


Although, on second thought, all the actors are fucking dead now, only 87 years later.
Maybe the marijuana really did do them in.

 

[Monad Portal]

'Epidemic' of cannabis use tied to Maori cancer rate
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kahu/epi...maori-cancer-rate/76GDQ5QAGG26RDEHTPVNH3BYZ4/

Hui hailed as first step in tackling 'huge and terrible' Māori cancer rates
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-...tackling-huge-and-terrible-maori-cancer-rates

“Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke share carcinogens, including toxic gases, reactive oxygen species, and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, such as benzo[alpha]pyrene and phenols, which are 20 times higher in unfiltered marijuana than in cigarette smoke,” write first author Dr. Mehrnaz Ghasemiesfe and colleagues.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327230

Weight for weight (eg., equal amounts) of marijuana smoked is more carcinogenic than tobacco smoked. That is a fact, and one that is gaining more and more study that proves it.

Schizophrenia and Marijuana: Trigger or Treatment?
https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-marijuana-link

Using Marijuana Has Been Linked to Psychiatric Disorders
There is evidence that links marijuana use with an increased risk of psychiatric disorders, including schizophrenia, says Streem. “A 2002 study found the more marijuana an adult consumed, the higher their risk of developing schizophrenia. The authors concluded that 13 percent of the schizophrenia cases in their cohort could be attributed to smoking cannabis,”
https://www.everydayhealth.com/schi...higher their risk of developing schizophrenia.

The relationship between cannabis (marijuana) use and psychiatric disorders is complex, and more research is needed to better understand the short- and long-term impacts of cannabis use on mental health. Considerable evidence has linked cannabis use to earlier onset of psychosis in people with genetic risk factors for psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia, as well as worse symptoms in people who already have these conditions. Although less consistent, there is also evidence linking cannabis use to other mental illnesses and self-harm, including suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/r...k-between-marijuana-use-psychiatric-disorders

Using marijuana, particularly regularly and heavily, increases the chances you develop mental health issues.

None of that is "Reefer Madness." It is fact, and it is becoming far more concrete as studies on the effects of marijuana increase in scope and number.

the same medical establishment who says genital mutilation is healthcare, and that vaccines are great.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

the same medical establishment who says genital mutilation is healthcare, and that vaccines are great.

This is just an appeal to the stone using what amounts to an appeal to authority. It is almost self-evident that if you incinerate organic plant matter, you are going to get pretty much the same byproducts from that matter with variations in percent composition along with a few specific ones to the plant being burned. Therefore, it should be obvious that if you inhale those products of combustion into your lungs you are risking getting cancer as a result. Doesn't matter if it's tobacco, marijuana, or Bermuda grass for that matter. So, it should be self-evident to anyone with a scintilla of intelligence that smoking marijuana can cause cancer.

As to the mental health issues, that too should be almost self-evident. Again, marijuana is psychoactive and does build up in your system taking quite a while to fully wash out. There is every reason to believe that continuous use over a long period could result in changes to your brain chemistry and 'wiring' that result in psychiatric disorders occurring.

 

[Dachshund]

Nobody has ever, in all of history, been driven to suicide by weed.

I am a qualified pharmacist. I have worked in community pharmacies and hospital pharmacy for close to 30 years.

With regard to cannabis, when it is smoked regularly over a lengthy period of time it is known to induce a range of mental disorders. A well known example is called amotivational syndrome. This presents as a lack of drive, motivation and energy. The individual effected become apathetic and loses interest in in setting and striving toward life goals. They also become sedentary and inactive (physically) their speech and reaction times slow down markedly as well. These symptoms are an ideal seed-bed for the emergance of mood disorders like dysthymia or major depressive disorder.

Although there have not been many large, mainstream, scientific,, research investigations in Oz into the long-term side-effects of smoking moderate to large doses of THC on a regular basis ( recreational cannabis is illegal in Oz, so research subjects are difficult to recruit). On a personal note, I have encountered many, long-term cannabis users over the years who displayed clear symptoms of amotivational disorder.


I would bet money that the abuse of recreational cannabis could very likely afflict users with depressive- type mood disorders.


Lastly, it seems to me that many people regard cannabis as a harmless, "toy" drug, that you can just fool around with whenever you want. theres a rule of thumb in pharmacology that says if you use a drug that hits your head pretty hard like speed/amphetamines/Cocaine:, oxycodone, LSD, Valium, Ecstasy (MDMA0) strong alcohol, etc; they you are playing wit fire, and it would be a good idea to throw the shit in the bin. Cannabis is "head gear" when you smoke a goodish amount of it , it really hits your head, Right" It alters your consciousness in unusual ways because it is known to have a psychotomimetis effect as well (i.e, something similar , thought milder than what hallucinogens like "Magic Mushrooms (Psilocybin), MDMA and mescaline have.


My advise is don't fuck around with drugs like the stuff I've mentioned above (including cannabis); they're really dangerous and if you get hooked on any of them you'll wish you were dead.



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM - Dachshund Lives Matter !!

 

[Althea]

Driven to suicide by weed: These families were torn apart when their teen sons got hooked on super-strength marijuana and fell into depression. And experts warn it's becoming a familiar tale across America

Marijuana use has exploded across the US since a wave of legalizations kicked off a decade ago, but some parents believe the super-strength strains of today are driving children to suicide.

Figures show found the number of Americans who have marijuana in their system when they try to kill themselves is growing at an alarming 17 percent per year - and the trend is being fueled by a rise in young people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...hare-highly-potent-weed-tore-lives-apart.html

make it legal...what could go wrong

LMAO@ 'hooked' on weed.

 

[Althea]

Well, the negative effects of marijuana are only just now beginning to really become accurately documented. Weight for weight, marijuana is about three times as carcinogenous as tobacco. This is in part due to it being smoked unfiltered and closer to the butt of the joint, but it also has to do with it simply having more of the chemicals that cause cancer in it.

Then add that long term use increases your risk of becoming bipolar or schizophrenic, particularly the first, by about 20%.

The Māori of New Zealand are the heaviest users of marijuana on the planet and they don't generally use tobacco. The above has been found true of their ethnic group now for decades.

Additives in tobacco make it deadly. There are no additives in weed.

After 60 years of regular pot use across the nation, one would expect to see cancer wards full of potheads if anything you claim above is true.

(None of it is)

 

[Althea]

I am a qualified pharmacist. I have worked in community pharmacies and hospital pharmacy for close to 30 years.

With regard to cannabis, when it is smoked regularly over a lengthy period of time it is known to induce a range of mental disorders. A well known example is called amotivational syndrome. This presents as a lack of drive, motivation and energy. The individual effected become apathetic and loses interest in in setting and striving toward life goals. They also become sedentary and inactive (physically) their speech and reaction times slow down markedly as well. These symptoms are an ideal seed-bed for the emergance of mood disorders like dysthymia or major depressive disorder.

Although there have not been many large, mainstream, scientific,, research investigations in Oz into the long-term side-effects of smoking moderate to large doses of THC on a regular basis ( recreational cannabis is illegal in Oz, so research subjects are difficult to recruit). On a personal note, I have encountered many, long-term cannabis users over the years who displayed clear symptoms of amotivational disorder.


I would bet money that the abuse of recreational cannabis could very likely afflict users with depressive- type mood disorders.


Lastly, it seems to me that many people regard cannabis as a harmless, "toy" drug, that you can just fool around with whenever you want. theres a rule of thumb in pharmacology that says if you use a drug that hits your head pretty hard like speed/amphetamines/Cocaine:, oxycodone, LSD, Valium, Ecstasy (MDMA0) strong alcohol, etc; they you are playing wit fire, and it would be a good idea to throw the shit in the bin. Cannabis is "head gear" when you smoke a goodish amount of it , it really hits your head, Right" It alters your consciousness in unusual ways because it is known to have a psychotomimetis effect as well (i.e, something similar , thought milder than what hallucinogens like "Magic Mushrooms (Psilocybin), MDMA and mescaline have.


My advise is don't fuck around with drugs like the stuff I've mentioned above (including cannabis); they're really dangerous and if you get hooked on any of them you'll wish you were dead.



Dachshund - the WONDER HOUND

DLM - Dachshund Lives Matter !!

Utter hogwash

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Additives in tobacco make it deadly. There are no additives in weed.

After 60 years of regular pot use across the nation, one would expect to see cancer wards full of potheads if anything you claim above is true.

None of that is true. It is the products of combustion inhaled that are the primary cause of cancer from smoking. Also, two things make your second statement meaningless speculation.

First, many pot users also use tobacco. So, there is some difficulty in determining what caused what.

Second, most pot users use far less marijuana than tobacco users smoke in tobacco. That would limit exposure compared to tobacco, but it wouldn't eliminate the risk however.

But if you want to believe marijuana is perfectly safe go for it.

 

[Althea]

None of that is true. It is the products of combustion inhaled that are the primary cause of cancer from smoking. Also, two things make your second statement meaningless speculation.

First, many pot users also use tobacco. So, there is some difficulty in determining what caused what.

Second, most pot users use far less marijuana than tobacco users smoke in tobacco. That would limit exposure compared to tobacco, but it wouldn't eliminate the risk however.

But if you want to believe marijuana is perfectly safe go for it.

Which is the reason your silly claim about '3 times as dangerous' is laughable.

You can't possibly smoke the equivalent of 2-3 packs of cigarettes/day. People smoke cigs because they are addicted.

Nobody gets addicted to pot. I will note that smoking anything has similarities. People tend to crave a joint when they wake, after a meal, etc..

Nothing in weed is addictive.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Which is the reason your silly claim about '3 times as dangerous' is laughable.

You can't possibly smoke the equivalent of 2-3 packs of cigarettes/day. People smoke cigs because they are addicted.

Nobody gets addicted to pot. I will note that smoking anything has similarities. People tend to crave a joint when they wake, after a meal, etc..

Nothing in weed is addictive.

I stated VERY clearly Weight for weight. That is an ounce of marijuana versus an ounce of tobacco. Same quantity measured by WEIGHT. Marijuana is 3 times more dangerous in terms of its potential to cause cancer. But most people use less marijuana than they would tobacco. It doesn't change the severity of the nature of either when compared on equal volume, but it does mitigate the comparative effect based on amount consumed per period of time.

As for addiction, you are wrong there too.

Is marijuana addictive?
Marijuana use can lead to the development of a substance use disorder, a medical illness in which the person is unable to stop using even though it's causing health and social problems in their life. Severe substance use disorders are also known as addiction. Research suggests that between 9 and 30 percent of those who use marijuana may develop some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before age 18 are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop a marijuana use disorder.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana

Approximately 1 in 10 people who use marijuana will become addicted. When they start before age 18, the rate of addiction rises to 1 in 6.
https://www.samhsa.gov/marijuana

It clearly isn't as addictive as tobacco, but it can be addictive.

Understand, I don't care if you use marijuana. Smoke your brain to death if that's what you like to do. But don't lie or repeat the lies that are out there about how marijuana use is virtually or completely harmless. It clearly is harmful just as tobacco and alcohol are. Be honest about it.

 

[Monad Portal]

This is just an appeal to the stone using what amounts to an appeal to authority. It is almost self-evident that if you incinerate organic plant matter, you are going to get pretty much the same byproducts from that matter with variations in percent composition along with a few specific ones to the plant being burned. Therefore, it should be obvious that if you inhale those products of combustion into your lungs you are risking getting cancer as a result. Doesn't matter if it's tobacco, marijuana, or Bermuda grass for that matter. So, it should be self-evident to anyone with a scintilla of intelligence that smoking marijuana can cause cancer.

As to the mental health issues, that too should be almost self-evident. Again, marijuana is psychoactive and does build up in your system taking quite a while to fully wash out. There is every reason to believe that continuous use over a long period could result in changes to your brain chemistry and 'wiring' that result in psychiatric disorders occurring.

No it isn't.

if you trust the medical establishment you are retarded.

you are making an appeal to authority.

of course it's not good for lungs, I acknowledge that.

fluoride in the water does far worse harm than marijuana.

 

[Melchizedek = Michael]

Driven to suicide by weed: These families were torn apart when their teen sons got hooked on super-strength marijuana and fell into depression. And experts warn it's becoming a familiar tale across America

Marijuana use has exploded across the US since a wave of legalizations kicked off a decade ago, but some parents believe the super-strength strains of today are driving children to suicide.

Figures show found the number of Americans who have marijuana in their system when they try to kill themselves is growing at an alarming 17 percent per year - and the trend is being fueled by a rise in young people.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...hare-highly-potent-weed-tore-lives-apart.html

make it legal...what could go wrong

2+2=5
You're assuming because they had weed in their system that is why they tried suicide!

 

[Monad Portal]

I stated VERY clearly Weight for weight. That is an ounce of marijuana versus an ounce of tobacco. Same quantity measured by WEIGHT. Marijuana is 3 times more dangerous in terms of its potential to cause cancer. But most people use less marijuana than they would tobacco. It doesn't change the severity of the nature of either when compared on equal volume, but it does mitigate the comparative effect based on amount consumed per period of time.

As for addiction, you are wrong there too.

Is marijuana addictive?
Marijuana use can lead to the development of a substance use disorder, a medical illness in which the person is unable to stop using even though it's causing health and social problems in their life. Severe substance use disorders are also known as addiction. Research suggests that between 9 and 30 percent of those who use marijuana may develop some degree of marijuana use disorder. People who begin using marijuana before age 18 are four to seven times more likely than adults to develop a marijuana use disorder.
https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugfacts/cannabis-marijuana

Approximately 1 in 10 people who use marijuana will become addicted. When they start before age 18, the rate of addiction rises to 1 in 6.
https://www.samhsa.gov/marijuana

It clearly isn't as addictive as tobacco, but it can be addictive.

do you drink coffee?