Did you ever ask a Republiclown what WOKE means? What did they say?

T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong! It's more than that.

woke
1 of 2
adjective
ˈwōk
woker; wokest
Synonyms of woke
chiefly US slang
1
a
: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woke

Social and economic justice are Leftist dogma and values.

To be “woke” once meant to be alert to the continued realities of oppression, particularly the oppression faced by Black Americans. But today, its meaning has shifted. To be “woke” is to lack urgency about building the coalitions that can win over working-class people and actually redistribute money and power to the oppressed.

This isn’t to say that progressives have to avoid questions of social justice to win a mythically conservative working-class, but that we need to acknowledge the reality that working-class people of all races want basically the same things: good jobs, secure housing, dependable health care, and the ability to provide for themselves and their families. Framing universal concerns with identity-focused messaging or language stolen straight from academia is a huge mistake.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/09/woke-word-meaning-definition-progressive

woke
[wōk]
VERB
past of wake
ADJECTIVE
DEROGATORY
alert to and concerned about social injustice and discrimination:
"he's an activist and very woke" · "woke culture has moved into mainstream journalism" · "my neighborhood is a very woke area" · "we need to stay angry, and stay woke"

It is exactly as I defined it. That is, it someone on the Left or radical Left that has fully embraced Leftist dogma and politics and wants to force everyone else to accept without question those values and positions.
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Nah. It's not what you said at all.

It's about social awareness. It just means being aware. It's alarming how many people are against being aware.
 
BartenderElite said:
Nah. It's not what you said at all.

It's about social awareness. It just means being aware. It's alarming how many people are against being aware.
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Oh fuck me rigid, you're such a moron!!

Woke racism is the new religion, at least some on the Left get it!!

Woke Racism': John McWhorter argues against what he calls a religion of anti-racism

The professor John McWhorter has problems with the way Americans are talking about race and racism.

McWhorter is a Black liberal. But he argues that the cultural left, along with major institutions and companies, have gone too far in embracing "anti-racist" ideas.

Much of it relates to the way two prominent writers about race have influenced public opinion about racism. Ibram X. Kendi's How to Be an Antiracist and Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility have both landed on bestseller lists since last summer, after widespread protests erupted over George Floyd's killing.

Both Kendi and DiAngelo have appeared on NPR and NPR has published articles that promote anti-racism.

McWhorter argues that certain strains of anti-racism and its adherents have effectively created a religion, and a zealous one, that stifles nuance and debate. His new book is called Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.

There are people "whose devotion is less to changing lives for people who need help than showing that they understand that racism and especially systemic racism exists," McWhorter tells Morning Edition.

"The idea is that you are to be fired" if you disagree or violate anti-racism's norms, in McWhorter's telling. "You are to be dismissed from polite society. You are to be sanctioned. You can't be among us. You're dirty."
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052...-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race
 
serendipity said:
Oh fuck me rigid, you're such a moron!!

Woke racism is the new religion, at least some on the Left get it!!

Woke Racism': John McWhorter argues against what he calls a religion of anti-racism

The professor John McWhorter has problems with the way Americans are talking about race and racism.

McWhorter is a Black liberal. But he argues that the cultural left, along with major institutions and companies, have gone too far in embracing "anti-racist" ideas.

Much of it relates to the way two prominent writers about race have influenced public opinion about racism. Ibram X. Kendi's How to Be an Antiracist and Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility have both landed on bestseller lists since last summer, after widespread protests erupted over George Floyd's killing.

Both Kendi and DiAngelo have appeared on NPR and NPR has published articles that promote anti-racism.

McWhorter argues that certain strains of anti-racism and its adherents have effectively created a religion, and a zealous one, that stifles nuance and debate. His new book is called Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America.

There are people "whose devotion is less to changing lives for people who need help than showing that they understand that racism and especially systemic racism exists," McWhorter tells Morning Edition.

"The idea is that you are to be fired" if you disagree or violate anti-racism's norms, in McWhorter's telling. "You are to be dismissed from polite society. You are to be sanctioned. You can't be among us. You're dirty."
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/05/1052...-woke-racism-attacks-leading-thinkers-on-race
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Would you care to try to argue something yourself?

Or is spewing insults the best you can do?
 
serendipity said:
I've tried that before now, it's a waste of time frankly.
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You haven't tried it, and that is a canned response at this point.

Look, just post the counter-point argument, even if it's someone else's. No need to add the "moron."

But to define "woke," anyone should look at its origins. Not how others redefined it over time.
 
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BartenderElite said:
Would you care to try to argue something yourself?

Or is spewing insults the best you can do?
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I've tried that before now, it's a waste of time frankly. John McWhorter is a linguistics professor so why shouldn't I quote him?

I do not need to kowtow to your demands, maybe you'd benefit from what others have to say?

Too often the result of affirmative action has been an artificial diversity that gives the appearance of parity between blacks and whites that has not yet been achieved in reality...Preferences tend to attack one form of discrimination with another...Affirmative action encourages a victim-focused identity, and sends the message that there is more power in our past suffering than in our present achievements.

Shelby Steele

Wokeness, in my view, is a good thing, as I have often blogged (for example, here). Awareness of unfairness in the treatment of others not only makes the world a better place and us better people, it creates a culture in which the marginalized receive empathy instead of blame. Everyone has marginalized thoughts, feelings, and desires. Everyone has a history of managing unfair expectations and humiliations. A woke culture would be a pleasure to live in for everyone.

But every movement is susceptible to becoming the thing it despises. Nietzsche said it best, perhaps: “Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster.” Power theory teaches us that every system develops a subsystem that initially makes rules that are good for the system, but, eventually, that governing subsystem makes rules that are good for itself. George Orwell ended Animal Farm with the disgusting image of pigs imitating their human oppressors.

On the political left, wokeness sometimes drifts into wokeism—a system of thought and behavior characterized by intolerance, policing the speech of others, and proving one’s own superiority by denouncing others. It’s not hard to see how wokeism benefits the intolerant: others have written extensively about the woke Olympics and topping from the bottom. How ironic that the antiracist insight—that policies with disparate racial impacts proliferate because they benefit one racial group—applies to wokeism, where cultural practices with other disparate effects proliferate because they benefit other identity groups. But two wrongs don’t make a right.

You'd have to be pretty concrete not to grasp that if it's wrong to assume you know a black woman's experience based on her gender and skin color, it's wrong--for exactly the same reasons-- to assume you know a white man's experience based on his gender and skin color. But there are reasons that so many otherwise empathic and circumspect people check their empathy and circumspection when expressing their wokeness. The primary reason was expressed by Aldous Huxley: “The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior ‘righteous indignation’—this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.” Hitler—Hitler!—was repulsed by what he called the “mean-spiritedness” of the German people in their zeal for denouncing each other.

Michael Karson Ph.D., J.D.
 
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serendipity said:
I've tried that before now, it's a waste of time frankly. John McWhorter is a linguistics professor so why shouldn't I quote him?

I do not need to kowtow to your demands, maybe you'd benefit from what other leading black intellectuals have to say?

Too often the result of affirmative action has been an artificial diversity that gives the appearance of parity between blacks and whites that has not yet been achieved in reality...Preferences tend to attack one form of discrimination with another...Affirmative action encourages a victim-focused identity, and sends the message that there is more power in our past suffering than in our present achievements.

Shelby Steele
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That's the 3rd time w/ this same basic response. Can you let me know where I made a "demand?"

Like I said - it's fine to post someone else's thoughts. But why the insult? My POV is just as valid, if not moreso. I'm talking about the origins of the term.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I didn't invent the word. I only defined it. Explain how my definition is wrong. That is, after all, the subject of this thread.
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All you did was write the things the rightwing have been complaining about since the mid 20th century.

So why did you all need a new phony buzzword for it?
 
Cypress said:
All you did was write the things the rightwing have been complaining about since the mid 20th century.

So why did you all need a new phony buzzword for it?
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Oh, so you don't like the FACT I defined woke with specific terms? Too bad for you. I did what the OP said couldn't be done. Disprove what I've stated.
 
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