Ohio school district allows staff to be armed: 'Our schools will no longer be soft ta

^ Not adequate in the least.

That requires a diagnosis from a licensed doctor.

Many mentally unstable people, maybe even most, refuse to go to the doctor and get diagnosed. Conservatives have not only flooded our nation with high ammunition capacity semi automatics, they have made sure they are easy to obtain.


There's a reason revolvers, shotguns, and bolt action rifles are not generally used in mass shootings.

High capacity magazines are not designed for deer hunting or recreational target shooting.

They are designed to ensure maximum lethal carnage to human targets.
Gun laws don't work as Hunter Biden proved when he illegally bought a revolver. Hunter also owns a shotgun according to Joe Biden. I have also seen a video with Hunter holding a semi-auto handgun. Also Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the US but it also has some of the worst gun violence in the US. Gun laws serve to disarm the honest people and criminals tend to ignore them.

You can drop a magazine and reload and fire again in under 2 seconds. The 38 revolver has killed more people in America than any other weapon. If AR 15s are banned they will want any semi auto gun. And after that they well want revolvers . The final goal is zero guns.
 
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Gun laws don't work as Hunter Biden proved when he illegally bought a revolver. Hunter also owns a shotgun according to Joe Biden. I have also seen a video with Hunter holding a semi-auto handgun. Also Chicago has some of the most strict gun laws in the US but it also has some of the worst gun violence in the US. Gun laws serve to disarm the honest people and criminals tend to ignore them.

You can drop a magazine and reload and fire again in under 2 seconds. The 38 revolver has killed more people in America than any other weapon. If AR 15s are banned they will want any semi auto gun. And after that they well want revolvers . The final goal is zero guns.

400,000 guns are stolen every year. The idea that good people only buy guns is stupid. Mass murders often buy them just before they start the slaughter. Our problem is simply too damn many guns.
 
The only guns I saw 50 years ago in civilian hands were shotguns, revolvers, traditional bolt action hunting rifles, and the occasional semi automatic surplus WW2 carbines, and a smattering of semi auto pistols.

Firearms have become more ubiquitous and Conservatives made high ammunition capacity semi auto military style assault rifles widespread and easy to obtain, and conservatives made it easy for just about anyone to obtain them, including the mentally unstable

You must not have been paying much attention (nothing new there) when firearms were much easier to obtain. Far easier then, than they are today.
 
^ Not adequate in the least.

That requires a diagnosis from a licensed doctor.

Many mentally unstable people, maybe even most, refuse to go to the doctor and get diagnosed. Conservatives have not only flooded our nation with high ammunition capacity semi automatics, they have made sure they are easy to obtain.


There's a reason revolvers, shotguns, and bolt action rifles are not generally used in mass shootings.

High capacity magazines are not designed for deer hunting or recreational target shooting.

They are designed to ensure maximum lethal carnage to human targets.

What new laws would you deem adequate?

So a Dr. can determine whether a person can exercise their constitutional rights?
How would you know how many people are diagnosed mentally unstable? Are you
a Dr. now?

The reason many choose an AR is because you idiots and the MSN keep them in the spotlight.
Semi auto sporting rifles are designed for competitive target shooting.
Rest assured, one can do just as much damage with a revolver as with a semi auto rifle in
confined spaces (such as school rooms, etc.). Some, as much with a bolt action rifle from afar.
You should stay away from firearm discussions, you are ignorant when it comes to firearms.
 
No, most of the cases were not suicides.
according to the author of the study they were....
But Peterson said it’s important to note that research shows perpetrators tend to be students in the school who are suicidal, which she continued is “really different than how we think about school shooters as the scary outsiders that come in an unpredictable way.”
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/02/16/research-finds-armed-officers-increases-mortality-at-school-shootings
Further, out of the 133 cases studied only 16 involved shooters who were not students at the school......the majority of the 133 cases, which were limited to cases where there were more than one killed, involved a shooter who killed a targeted person and themselves........

Now let's look at the study's admitted fault with respect to the deterence of shootings in the existence of armed staff......in its own words....
his study had some limitations. It is limited by its reliance on public data, lack of data on community characteristics, and inability to measure deterred shootings (nonevents).
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776515

for all you know, armed staff may be preventing 99.9% of events.......
 
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You must not have been paying much attention (nothing new there) when firearms were much easier to obtain. Far easier then, than they are today.

Nope.

My father was a member of NRA, a gun collector, and friends with other recreational gun collectors. 50 years ago, the firearms I saw in civilian hands were primarily revolvers, shotguns, bolt action rifles, and a few semi automatic rifles and pistols, none of which were decked out with high capacity ammunition mags.

I never saw any of my father's friends in those days try to compensate for small penises by swaggering around with an AK-47 knockoffs festooned with a 30 round ammunition mag
 
Nope.

My father was a member of NRA, a gun collector, and friends with other recreational gun collectors. 50 years ago, the firearms I saw in civilian hands were primarily revolvers, shotguns, bolt action rifles, and a few semi automatic rifles and pistols, none of which were decked out with high capacity ammunition mags.

I never saw any of my father's friends in those days try to compensate for small penises by swaggering around with an AK-47 knockoffs festooned with a 30 round ammunition mag

gosh you mean they didn't collect AK-47 knockoffs before the AK-47s were invented?.......go figure......I wonder if that's the same reason my grandfather didn't collect Star Wars figurines......
 
What new laws would you deem adequate?

So a Dr. can determine whether a person can exercise their constitutional rights?
How would you know how many people are diagnosed mentally unstable? Are you
a Dr. now?

The reason many choose an AR is because you idiots and the MSN keep them in the spotlight.
Semi auto sporting rifles are designed for competitive target shooting.
Rest assured, one can do just as much damage with a revolver as with a semi auto rifle in
confined spaces (such as school rooms, etc.). Some, as much with a bolt action rifle from afar.
You should stay away from firearm discussions, you are ignorant when it comes to firearms.

Absolutely! In a soft target situation like a elementary school where it is a gun free zone what would stop a shooter with a couple of revolvers and speed loaders from shooting just as many kids as were killed in Uvalde? The answer is nothing would stop them. Clearly the target needs to be hardened. The Ohio school in the OP will pick a few teachers and administrators and train them for 50 hours a year. The school will select from personnel that volunteers. Most police departments train on guns about the same amount of time once then just re-qualify by shooting a few rounds once a year.

Until we can eliminate crazy people there will always be people that want to inflict pain on others because of their own pain. We aren't ever going to cure those kinds of people and as our nation divides under social issues there are going to be more of them. It gets down to the true saying "when seconds count the police are just minutes away." On campus selective armed and trained personnel is the logical choice. There are school districts in Texas that have been doing this for years for years with success.

I know a school principle that carries at her school. Her husband is a fireman with my son. My son and I train on shooting about once a month with them. She is a very good shot and I believe she would protect her students at all costs. I bet parents at Uvalde wish they had trained school personnel like her on campus. Our schools need to be hardened. Classroom should have automatic locking bullet proof doors on all classrooms and a corner storm shelter/bullet proof shelter in every classroom. In Texas and Oklahoma we have tornadoes that are at times a mile wide they are a huge potential danger so in classroom shelters would be a smart idea. They had a huge tornado that killed dozens of elementary kids and few years ago in Oklahoma.

Leftest PRETEND that every elementary school teacher would be packing heat. That is just a strawman argument. School would pick from people that are interested and then train . Often the training is similar to what a police officer receives in their academy training and MORE than they receive yearly. My son is on the SWAT team for North Tarrant County. He also teaches active shooter classes. That is how the armed principle that we know started to train with us.
 
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What new laws would you deem adequate?

So a Dr. can determine whether a person can exercise their constitutional rights?
How would you know how many people are diagnosed mentally unstable? Are you
a Dr. now?

The reason many choose an AR is because you idiots and the MSN keep them in the spotlight.
Semi auto sporting rifles are designed for competitive target shooting.
Rest assured, one can do just as much damage with a revolver as with a semi auto rifle in
confined spaces (such as school rooms, etc.). Some, as much with a bolt action rifle from afar.
You should stay away from firearm discussions, you are ignorant when it comes to firearms.

Ban high capacity ammunition mags and require gun owners to pass a mental health test. Close all gun show loopholes.

It's perfectly constitutional to ban high capacity ammunition mags.

They are a battlefield innovation intended and designed to inflict maximum lethality on human targets.

You have no legitimate need for a 30 or 45 round ammunition mag.
 
Ban high capacity ammunition mags and require gun owners to pass a mental health test. Close all gun show loopholes.

It's perfectly constitutional to ban high capacity ammunition mags.

They are a battlefield innovation intended and designed to inflict maximum lethality on human targets.

You have no legitimate need for a 30 or 45 round ammunition mag.

Have you seen the Nazi Brown Shirt MOBS attacking people in Chicago?

Do you know only about 1% of homicides are committed with a semi auto rifle? :palm:
 
400,000 guns are stolen every year. The idea that good people only buy guns is stupid. Mass murders often buy them just before they start the slaughter. Our problem is simply too damn many guns.

Which guns will you white libs confiscate from law abiding Black Americans and women?
 
Have you seen the Nazi Brown Shirt MOBS attacking people in Chicago?

Do you know only about 1% of homicides are committed with a semi auto rifle? :palm:

I do not accept any fantasy arguments that your house is going to be attacked by 30 teenagers or roving bands of zombies.

If that were actually a legitimate argument, you should be able to have legal access to machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.

There is not a single, legitimate need for you to have to have 30 round and 45 round ammunition mags.
 
Nope.

My father was a member of NRA, a gun collector, and friends with other recreational gun collectors. 50 years ago, the firearms I saw in civilian hands were primarily revolvers, shotguns, bolt action rifles, and a few semi automatic rifles and pistols, none of which were decked out with high capacity ammunition mags.

I never saw any of my father's friends in those days try to compensate for small penises by swaggering around with an AK-47 knockoffs festooned with a 30 round ammunition mag


My brother and I used our AR 15s last week. We hunt feral hogs on our family farm. We use 30 round magazines to help shoot herds that can be 100 or more in size at times. You have to kill as many as you can before they scatter. We kill them because they would destroy our watermelon crop. Feral hogs are VERY destructive and they LOVE watermelons.
 
I do not accept any fantasy arguments that your house is going to be attacked by 30 teenagers or roving bands of zombies.

If that were actually a legitimate argument, you should be able to have legal access to machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.

There is not a single, legitimate need for you to have to have 30 round and 45 round ammunition mags.

You don't accept reality.

Brown Shirt MOB attacks are on the rise.

For example, dozens of people were murdered during the Dem insurrection in the Summer of 2020.
 
Ban high capacity ammunition mags and require gun owners to pass a mental health test. Close all gun show loopholes.

It's perfectly constitutional to ban high capacity ammunition mags.

They are a battlefield innovation intended and designed to inflict maximum lethality on human targets.

You have no legitimate need for a 30 or 45 round ammunition mag.

1. What kind of mental health test? A lot of these people are just depressed or bullied. How often would you test these people?

2. What gun show loop holes. Be specific.

3. I used a 30 round magazine last week and have a very legitimate need for it. I use it for feral pig control. We start hunting them in late April each year. Just before we plant and keep shooting them until we harvest. We raise about 90 acres of watermelons commercially each year in East Texas.
 
I do not accept any fantasy arguments that your house is going to be attacked by 30 teenagers or roving bands of zombies.

If that were actually a legitimate argument, you should be able to have legal access to machine guns and rocket propelled grenades.

There is not a single, legitimate need for you to have to have 30 round and 45 round ammunition mags.


WRONG you just don't know what you are talking about.
 
You don't accept reality.

Brown Shirt MOB attacks are on the rise.

For example, dozens of people were murdered during the Dem insurrection in the Summer of 2020.

You have no legitimate need for high capacity ammo magazines.

You can't even use the Second amendment solutions anymore. There is zero chance of you takin'it to the streets to overthrow despotic government. Trump told you that dark forces had stolen the election and the fate of the republic was in the balance - but even then, you couldn't pull yourself away from your keyboard and bag of Cheetos.
 
You have no legitimate need for high capacity ammo magazines.

You can't even use the Second amendment solutions anymore. There is zero chance of you takin'it to the streets to overthrow despotic government. Trump told you that dark forces had stolen the election and the fate of the republic was in the balance - but even then, you couldn't pull yourself away from your keyboard and bag of Cheetos.

There doesnt have be a "need" for them. There is also no need for me to call you a woman simply because you"feel" like one but you expect it. Please stop being foolish.
 
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