Teabaggers laugh at women who's daughter they are responsible for killing

clearly you're overreaching....i never said it was the only choice, no where did i say it was all inclusive....i guess if i ask a question i had better be prepared to ask all the possible options too.....

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That's not overreaching at all. You seemed incapable of exploring other options, which is why you went to the opposite extreme.

On a psychological level, it's the kind of predictable comment that one expects from someone who doesn't have a logical leg to stand on, and still wants to defend the indefensible.
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so i ask a question, which is...what should they do...and give one example for brevity sake.....and now i'm incapable of considering other options....

yeah....funny how that works when someone asks a question vs. making a statement....

your post is nothing but meadowmuffins onceler....i already put down if anyone laughed, i'm just trying to figure out the response that people think is appropriate when someone makes an emotional appeal like that....

but oh no....if anyone asks questions, our great onceler has them pegged as someone who doesn't have a logical leg to stand on....

you're a funny idiot
 
"so i ask a question, which is...what should they do"

Ah - but you didn't just say that. You added "weep for her" and "vote without discourse."

Clearly, Yurt, they could have chosen not to heckle, not to yell, not to ridicule. They could have let her have her say, been mildly respectful of a mother & her opinion, and then carried on with all kinds of opinions & counterpoints of their own, engaging in plenty of civil discourse prior to voting.

But you didn't really need me to explain that. Didjya, Yurt?
 
They went to a rally that was against what they agreed with. Fair enough, they are biggons. They can take it. They got return fire. Deal with. Not victims, they did what they wished.
 
Are you surprised? Are we to expect anything different from people who do not care if their fellow citizens have proper health coverage? If it's a toss-up between a bigger pool or a more expensive car or a luxury vacation compared to passing a law that would ensure their neighbor has proper health insurance we see where their priorities lie.

Now that the "I can't keep my own doctor" or "I'll get inferior health care" or other bogus arguments have been shown to be a smoke screen the real reason has been exposed.

They don't care about others. That's what this has been about from the beginning.



Conservatives are unworthy of being Americans.

Tea Party Patriots Attack Family Who Lost Daughter And Grandchild (VIDEO)

YouTube- Midge Hough and the Chicago Tea Party Patriots

A group called the Chicago Tea Party Patriots publicly heckled a grieving family and suggested that the couple fabricated their tragic story.
At a town hall held by Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.) on Nov. 14,, Dan and Midge Hough spoke about how they believed the death of their daughter-in-law and her unborn child were caused, in part, by a lack of health insurance. Twenty-four-year old Jennifer was uninsured. According to her in-laws, she was not receiving regular prenatal care and was not properly treated when she got sick. She ended up in an emergency room with double pneumonia that developed into septic shock, had a heart attack, a brain bleed and a stroke. The baby died and Jennifer died a few weeks later.
Midge Hough was heckled by anti-reform crowd members. "You can laugh at me, that's okay," she said, crying. "But I lost two people, and I know you think that's funny, that's okay."

A local Tea Party organizer falsely claimed that the couple had made up the story and tried to justify the town hall behavior, according to the Southtown Star.
Catherina Wojtowicz, of Chicago's Mount Greenwood community, an organizer for a Tea Party splinter group, Chicago Tea Party Patriots, falsely claimed that the Houghs fabricated their story. In an e-mail, she called them operatives of President Barack Obama who "go from event to event and (cry) the same story." [...]
The audience, Wojtowicz later explained, was exasperated by stories of isolated tragedies that cloud debate over the health care bill itself.
 
Are you surprised? Are we to expect anything different from people who do not care if their fellow citizens have proper health coverage? If it's a toss-up between a bigger pool or a more expensive car or a luxury vacation compared to passing a law that would ensure their neighbor has proper health insurance we see where their priorities lie.

Now that the "I can't keep my own doctor" or "I'll get inferior health care" or other bogus arguments have been shown to be a smoke screen the real reason has been exposed.

They don't care about others. That's what this has been about from the beginning.

pfeeesh...you all only care for others when you can force others to pay for them through the Guberment..well guess what, that's not OUR JOB...EVERYONE gets health care in this country one way or another..so it would be nice if you all stopped with the lies...
 
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Are you surprised? Are we to expect anything different from people who do not care if their fellow citizens have proper health coverage? If it's a toss-up between a bigger pool or a more expensive car or a luxury vacation compared to passing a law that would ensure their neighbor has proper health insurance we see where their priorities lie.

Now that the "I can't keep my own doctor" or "I'll get inferior health care" or other bogus arguments have been shown to be a smoke screen the real reason has been exposed.

They don't care about others. That's what this has been about from the beginning.


What ever happened to the personal responsibility of doing what is right and getting the pre-natal care.
Or is Arizona the only State that gives pre-natal care and WIC to expectant mothers and the new born??
 
pfeeesh...you all only care for others when you can force others to pay for them through the Guberment..well guess what, that's not OUR JOB...EVERYONE gets health care in this country one way or another..so it would be nice if you all stopped with the lies...

One way or another. It's the "another" that's the problem. One way would have been her having access to affordable health care which would have resulted in her being treated at the first symptoms of her illness.

The "another" was sending her home because she didn't have insurance and the result was not only her death but the death of her 7-month old fetus along with the cost of over 1.5 million dollars.

That is health care, one way or another.
 
One way or another. It's the "another" that's the problem. One way would have been her having access to affordable health care which would have resulted in her being treated at the first symptoms of her illness.

The "another" was sending her home because she didn't have insurance and the result was not only her death but the death of her 7-month old fetus along with the cost of over 1.5 million dollars.

That is health care, one way or another.
She already had access to exactly that, must we seriously turn off all thought because this woman cried at us? Families with Dependant Children (It's even a government program), WIC, etc. exist for just such occasions and are supported largely by both parties.

This is a terrible example of somebody not taking advantage of what is available to them, then attempting to blame it on somebody else. Crying at me doesn't change that she had access to health care, and did not avail herself of it.
 
One way or another. It's the "another" that's the problem. One way would have been her having access to affordable health care which would have resulted in her being treated at the first symptoms of her illness.

The "another" was sending her home because she didn't have insurance and the result was not only her death but the death of her 7-month old fetus along with the cost of over 1.5 million dollars.

That is health care, one way or another.


Rather then FEEL that she didn't have access to proper care, would you care to show where it was DENIED to her; or would that be to much against your agenda?? :palm:
 
Rather then FEEL that she didn't have access to proper care, would you care to show where it was DENIED to her; or would that be to much against your agenda?? :palm:

She went to the hospital and told them she didn't have insurance. They sent her home saying she had a "cold". If she'd had insurance they would have examined her thoroughly and discovered she had pneumonia.

No, they didn't outright deny her medical services because she didn't ask for a specific test. Who does?

Are you suggesting/implying a hospital will thoroughly examine a person knowing they don't have insurance or cash?
 
She already had access to exactly that, must we seriously turn off all thought because this woman cried at us? Families with Dependant Children (It's even a government program), WIC, etc. exist for just such occasions and are supported largely by both parties.

This is a terrible example of somebody not taking advantage of what is available to them, then attempting to blame it on somebody else. Crying at me doesn't change that she had access to health care, and did not avail herself of it.

If the hospital had taken a specimen they would have detected pneumonia and prescribed anti-biotics.
 
She went to the hospital and told them she didn't have insurance. They sent her home saying she had a "cold". If she'd had insurance they would have examined her thoroughly and discovered she had pneumonia.

No, they didn't outright deny her medical services because she didn't ask for a specific test. Who does?

Are you suggesting/implying a hospital will thoroughly examine a person knowing they don't have insurance or cash?


You seem to have skipped over the entire time from when she became pregnant and have decided to jump to the end of the story. :palm:

Why wasn't she seeing a doctor for her pre-natal care??

You remind me of one of my kids.
Used to read the last chapter of a book and figured they now knew the entire story.
I bet you used Cliff Notes a lot; HUH!!
 
If the hospital had taken a specimen they would have detected pneumonia and prescribed anti-biotics.
And? That doesn't change at all that she had options available to her that you have asked us to assume that she did not based on the fact that others were "mean" when they laughed. Okay, they were mean... but that still doesn't change that her situation could have been greatly enhanced by the programs that are currently available and that no new legislation is necessary to give this person coverage.

We're supposed to become brain dead because the woman cried so that you can pass some inane law that wouldn't have changed her situation. She had available health care, it is not our fault that she did not use it.
 
And? That doesn't change at all that she had options available to her that you have asked us to assume that she did not based on the fact that others were "mean" when they laughed. Okay, they were mean... but that still doesn't change that her situation could have been greatly enhanced by the programs that are currently available and that no new legislation is necessary to give this person coverage.

We're supposed to become brain dead because the woman cried so that you can pass some inane law that wouldn't have changed her situation. She had available health care, it is not our fault that she did not use it.

I watched the video again. Where was she to go for treatment if not to the hospital where she went?
 
You seem to have skipped over the entire time from when she became pregnant and have decided to jump to the end of the story. :palm:

Why wasn't she seeing a doctor for her pre-natal care??

You remind me of one of my kids.
Used to read the last chapter of a book and figured they now knew the entire story.
I bet you used Cliff Notes a lot; HUH!!

What difference does it make if she went for pre-natal care or not? She became ill and the hospital did not spend time diagnosing the problem because she didn't have insurance.

She wasn't ill a month before. If she had gone for pre-natal care it wouldn't have made any difference unless her pre-natal appointment was scheduled for the same day she went to the hospital.

To my knowledge pre-natal care involves, on average, a monthly visit. She probably didn't have pneumonia a month before she arrived at the hospital so what is the connection between pre-natal care and her illness?
 
I watched the video again. Where was she to go for treatment if not to the hospital where she went?
thearticle said:
'Dan and Midge Hough spoke about how they believed the death of their daughter-in-law and her unborn child were caused, in part, by a lack of health insurance."

Again, why did she not avail herself of the government programs that would have provided her insurance? Those same programs that are supported by both parties and have been for a very, very long time?

You again expect us to ignore the fact that the woman had available coverage, would still have it if nothing at all changed, it's used constantly, the names of government programs that offer such coverage to pregnant women in need were even given...

I refuse to play the straw man game with you.

She had available health care coverage and her family now wants us to support bad legislation simply because she was too foolish to get the coverage before she truly needed it. We're supposed to get so emotive that we suddenly cannot think.
 
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