Yakuda and crew...

Jarod said:
Just my opinion.

I have read a lot of history and sociology, and have been an informal student of human nature and how it works in large societies as a whole my entire life, this law shit is just to pay the bills because being a professor does not pay the bills... So anyway consider the source here and take it for what you believe it is worth. I am sure plenty of you fuckwads will tell me its worthless...

Anyway here goes.


Trumppers, where they came from and how they got where they are.


How did we get here, how did we end up with a 20-25% of angry disaffected mostly uneducated Americans promoting a media whore, corrupt criminal with no morals to the position of demigod.

We could go back much further in American history to Benedict Arnold and Jessie James and other deplorable Americans who formed a cult following, but lets start in the 1980's to keep this short enough so some of them might try to read it.

The Republicans elected Hollywood elitist Ronald Regan president and claimed the moral high ground over Baptist Preacher Jimmy Carter. (It recently came out that Regan's people lobbied the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election). Regan preached about keeping the kids off drugs and the evil Russians as morally inferior and gasp, heaven forbid atheist's.

Electing the first divorced President was the first step toward the break between them claiming moral superiority and actually caring about reality. Ronald Regan was tall and looked the part, he preached about moral superiority and that was all that mattered. Jimmy Carter, while a devout preacher with an impeccable personal history of morality, did not brag about it or moralize in the way Regan did.

Next GHW Bush, the Connecticut elitist whose wealth came from the corruption of his grandfather laundered through the Texas Oil business. He beat the ethnic looking Michael Dukakis who was the children of poor Green immigrants. Bush Sr. lost his second election after running a campaign that the Arkansas yokle non-elitist had no business in our Pristine white house, he was offended by the very idea. He clearly felt he was the better person and deserved it. Clinton was some yokel interloper from Arkansas not properly educated in any of New England's best prep-schools like Exeter or Roxbury Latin. But Bill Clinton won. Clinton joked about having sex as a teenager in the flat bed of a ford pickup truck... (The Republicans were outraged)

Bill Clinton (The Southern Baptist) was president and the economy flourished. Bill however couldn't keep it in his pants. He was with low class women and cheated on his wife.... What really mattered was that he cheated with a Jew and it became public. Bill Clinton got reelected anyway and false morality did not really matter anymore, being from the New England ruling class did not matter. Bob Dole Lost anyway. Taxes went up on the elites and down on the middle class. We ended his presidency with a budget surplus.

W, came in with a fake Texas swagger and a undercurrent of racism, promising he would keep the wealth where it belonged, but he continued Republican policies of keeping the wealth with the New England Elitists. He lied us into a war with Iraq to avenge his daddy and appease the wealthy defense contractors that employed his VP. W did not raise Taxes but spending (mostly due to his defense contractor war with Iraq) skyrocketed. The economy reacted with a major crash.

Barak Obama was elected, the elites went ape shit, demanding so see his birth certificate claiming he was not even an American. He was not one of the moral elites because he was not even American, that was the undertone. Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas claimed he was born in both Indonesia and Africa. Clearly not an American elitest and he was not born wealthy. He was not educated in the New England Prep Schools. Taxes went up on the Elite and down on the middle class. This really pissed off the New England elite again.

Along comes the twice divorced, had a child out of wedlock, crass and wealthy New Englander from all the fancy prep schools who did not have the manors and fucked hookers at will. The Republicans ate it up, one of them who could dupe working class voters that he was one of them. Whats even better, no morals at all!

Taxes went way down for the wealthy elite, and a little down for the middle class, while unsustainable, everyone was happy in the short run. He did not have the balls to stand up to the war machine and kept the never ending war in Afghanistan going.

The moral loving holier than thou Republican party had shit itself and is no longer.
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Began with Nixon, his Southern Strategy, and attacking the media with their criticism of over his Vietnam policies. From there, appealing to the lowest common denominator became a stable on the right
 
Yakuda said:
This line tells you all you need to know about "How did we get here"

"How did we get here, how did we end up with a 20-25% of angry disaffected mostly uneducated Americans promoting a media whore, corrupt criminal with no morals to the position of demigod."

Now I suspect you won't have the first fucking clue why I selected that line but I can't help that. I started a thread and asked you feral animals who you hated more than trump. Everyone of you said you don't have anyone which is a fucking bald face lie. You pieces of zhit have no desire or interest to engage in any useful conversation and you're pretending you care about shit is insulting to everyone's intelligence including yours, being what it is. I have very little regard for you people and that line is the best example of why.
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The number 1 reason why you personally have no influence with me, REGARDLESS TO ANY POLITICAL ISSUE IN AMERICA, is your Hatefulness you express towards all others here in the forum.

You have let your Political hatred jade you to a point, that has overcome your ability to be able to reason with others, or discuss anything in a civil manor.
 
archives said:
Began with Nixon, his Southern Strategy, and attacking the media with their criticism of over his Vietnam policies. From there, appealing to the lowest common denominator became a stable on the right
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I left out Leah water and his “nigger nigger nigger” campaign.
Nixon and his silent majority.


The seeds of the destruction of America’s former conservative party go way back. Conservatism can’t really survive, because the nature of the world is change, and the nature of conservatism is to conserve.
 
Jarod said:
Yes, but it is very interesting and enriched my life.

I had to go to law school to make a living.
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Well, if you're doing contract law, you have my sympathies.

In my Lockheed days, just going through contracts on the system made my eyes roll back in my head.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Well, if you're doing contract law, you have my sympathies.

In my Lockheed days, just going through contracts on the system made my eyes roll back in my head.
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Never, too boring. I litigate, but not as often as I would like. To much settling.
 
Jarod said:
Never, too boring. I litigate, but not as often as I would like. To much settling.
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I know it's off topic, but I have the "Uncensored, drop dead simple plan for criminal justice reform."

It is this, constitutionally prohibit all plea bargains and deals.

No more suborning perjury from some to frame others. Prosecutors must make their case from the evidence.

No more coerced "confessions" from fear of outrageous sentences by predatory prosecutors forcing the innocent to take "deals" because they can't fight they limitless resources of the states and the federal government.

Simple and concise - if prosecutors can prove a crime in a court of law - do it - otherwise they let it go. This would clean up criminal justice overnight.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
I know it's off topic, but I have the "Uncensored, drop dead simple plan for criminal justice reform."

It is this, constitutionally prohibit all plea bargains and deals.

No more suborning perjury from some to frame others. Prosecutors must make their case from the evidence.

No more coerced "confessions" from fear of outrageous sentences by predatory prosecutors forcing the innocent to take "deals" because they can't fight they limitless resources of the states and the federal government.

Simple and concise - if prosecutors can prove a crime in a court of law - do it - otherwise they let it go. This would clean up criminal justice overnight.
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Maybe a good idea for the more serious crimes, but it would paralyze the current system, and cost billions.

I believe there is very little suborning of perjury.

There is a lot of bullying and threatening that is uncool.
 
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Jarod said:
Maybe a good idea for the more serious crimes, but it would paralyze the current system, and cost billions.

I believe there is very little suborning of perjury.
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Virtually all deals in return for testimony is subornation of perjury.

As for paralyzing the system - that is a good thing.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Virtually all deals in return for testimony is subornation of perjury.

As for paralyzing the system - that is a good thing.
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No, a deal that results in honest testimony is not. Generally anyone getting a deal must have documentary evidence to back it up, or a jury is very unlikely to buy it.
 
Jarod said:
No, a deal that results in honest testimony is not.
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Prosecutors don't go into prisons looking for felons to testify against others into order to get "honest testimony."

Deals are the systematic subornation of perjury.

Generally anyone getting a deal must have documentary evidence to back it up, or a jury is very unlikely to buy it.
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Written statements are most of the "documentary evidence" that exists when prosecutors get others to testify in return for favors.

Basically, the prosecutor wants to "get" Joe. Sam is in prison. The prosecutor offers to let Sam out of prison if he will testify against Joe.

The bribe is made - the payment is for the testimony - not for the truth, but for testimony to get the target. A transcription of fabricated testimony is still a fabrication.

If we want an honest and fair justice system - we outlaw this - it's as barbaric as tortured confessions.
 
Jarod said:
Just my opinion.

I have read a lot of history and sociology, and have been an informal student of human nature and how it works in large societies as a whole my entire life, this law shit is just to pay the bills because being a professor does not pay the bills... So anyway consider the source here and take it for what you believe it is worth. I am sure plenty of you fuckwads will tell me its worthless...

Anyway here goes.


Trumppers, where they came from and how they got where they are.


How did we get here, how did we end up with a 20-25% of angry disaffected mostly uneducated Americans promoting a media whore, corrupt criminal with no morals to the position of demigod.

We could go back much further in American history to Benedict Arnold and Jessie James and other deplorable Americans who formed a cult following, but lets start in the 1980's to keep this short enough so some of them might try to read it.

The Republicans elected Hollywood elitist Ronald Regan president and claimed the moral high ground over Baptist Preacher Jimmy Carter. (It recently came out that Regan's people lobbied the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election). Regan preached about keeping the kids off drugs and the evil Russians as morally inferior and gasp, heaven forbid atheist's.

Electing the first divorced President was the first step toward the break between them claiming moral superiority and actually caring about reality. Ronald Regan was tall and looked the part, he preached about moral superiority and that was all that mattered. Jimmy Carter, while a devout preacher with an impeccable personal history of morality, did not brag about it or moralize in the way Regan did.

Next GHW Bush, the Connecticut elitist whose wealth came from the corruption of his grandfather laundered through the Texas Oil business. He beat the ethnic looking Michael Dukakis who was the children of poor Green immigrants. Bush Sr. lost his second election after running a campaign that the Arkansas yokle non-elitist had no business in our Pristine white house, he was offended by the very idea. He clearly felt he was the better person and deserved it. Clinton was some yokel interloper from Arkansas not properly educated in any of New England's best prep-schools like Exeter or Roxbury Latin. But Bill Clinton won. Clinton joked about having sex as a teenager in the flat bed of a ford pickup truck... (The Republicans were outraged)

Bill Clinton (The Southern Baptist) was president and the economy flourished. Bill however couldn't keep it in his pants. He was with low class women and cheated on his wife.... What really mattered was that he cheated with a Jew and it became public. Bill Clinton got reelected anyway and false morality did not really matter anymore, being from the New England ruling class did not matter. Bob Dole Lost anyway. Taxes went up on the elites and down on the middle class. We ended his presidency with a budget surplus.

W, came in with a fake Texas swagger and a undercurrent of racism, promising he would keep the wealth where it belonged, but he continued Republican policies of keeping the wealth with the New England Elitists. He lied us into a war with Iraq to avenge his daddy and appease the wealthy defense contractors that employed his VP. W did not raise Taxes but spending (mostly due to his defense contractor war with Iraq) skyrocketed. The economy reacted with a major crash.

Barak Obama was elected, the elites went ape shit, demanding so see his birth certificate claiming he was not even an American. He was not one of the moral elites because he was not even American, that was the undertone. Huckabee, former governor of Arkansas claimed he was born in both Indonesia and Africa. Clearly not an American elitest and he was not born wealthy. He was not educated in the New England Prep Schools. Taxes went up on the Elite and down on the middle class. This really pissed off the New England elite again.

Along comes the twice divorced, had a child out of wedlock, crass and wealthy New Englander from all the fancy prep schools who did not have the manors and fucked hookers at will. The Republicans ate it up, one of them who could dupe working class voters that he was one of them. Whats even better, no morals at all!

Taxes went way down for the wealthy elite, and a little down for the middle class, while unsustainable, everyone was happy in the short run. He did not have the balls to stand up to the war machine and kept the never ending war in Afghanistan going.

The moral loving holier than thou Republican party had shit itself and is no longer.
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I can think of a group that votes about 95% Democrat and that group is consistently the lowest educated group of people in the country. And that group has the lowest IQ as a group in the country. So don't try to point at Republicans. Because those people are mostly Democrats. BTW did you notice only 7% of Baltimore first graders are proficient in math? Also I seem to remember thousands of these disaffected low IQ angry people burning and looting multiple cities a couple years ago.
 
Uncensored2008 said:
Prosecutors don't go into prisons looking for felons to testify against others into order to get "honest testimony."

Deals are the systematic subornation of perjury.



Written statements are most of the "documentary evidence" that exists when prosecutors get others to testify in return for favors.

Basically, the prosecutor wants to "get" Joe. Sam is in prison. The prosecutor offers to let Sam out of prison if he will testify against Joe.

The bribe is made - the payment is for the testimony - not for the truth, but for testimony to get the target. A transcription of fabricated testimony is still a fabrication.

If we want an honest and fair justice system - we outlaw this - it's as barbaric as tortured confessions.
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Do you have some support for your claims. That is not my observations.

Most juries would never believe a felon who got a deal without some outside documentation, I would think Prosecutors who try this would usually lose.

Please provide a case where this resulted in a conviction? Not saying one does not exist, but I suspect it would be an outlier, I suspect you cant find even one.
 
Jarod said:
I left out Leah water and his “nigger nigger nigger” campaign.
Nixon and his silent majority.


The seeds of the destruction of America’s former conservative party go way back. Conservatism can’t really survive, because the nature of the world is change, and the nature of conservatism is to conserve.
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After spending years aggressively ignoring and demonizing people who support or once supported Trump.....
 
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