The President Bows . . .
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The Almighty
that is a given....
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bowing and kissing like bush did are not the same thing....
your ignorance is astounding
Obama.
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I neither agree nor disagree. As I stated, the picture does not tell us what occurred before or after it was taken. If Obama bowed first and the Emperor returned the gesture to the same degree, then it is no big deal. If the Emperor bowed first and Obama returned the gesture, then it is no big deal.
If Obama bowed first and the Emperor did not return it, then it is a snub and a breach of protocol by the Emperor.
If the Emperor bowed first and Obama returned it with a lower bow, then Obama messed up protocol.
I have no problem with Obama adhering to the protocol of the country he is in. We expect foreign heads of state to adhere to ours when they come here. We should do no less when going to their countries. That said, we need to make sure Obama is aware of the significance of the countries protocols when visiting.
I am not saying he did nor did not in this case as again, we only have a photo and not the meeting of the two in its entirety.
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lol... how the hell did I miss that one...
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you said it...not me
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i just found a video....the emporer did not bow....
video at link, only 30 seconds....
obama walks in, extends his hand for a shake and bows simultaneously, the emporer stood straight but took his hand....and obama bowed much lower to the emporer than his shorter wife, obama basically gave a head nod to the emporess....
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29529.html
http://www.politico.com/singletitlevideo.html?bcpid=1155201977&bctid=50492193001
I don't know. It was supposedly to make up for those DVDs he fobbed off on Gordon Browns... It actually contained footage of her visit to the US in 2007, where Bush messed up and misspoke (surprise, surprise) and suggested that she was alive to celebrate 1776 rather than the Bicentennial in 1976. She gave him a stern look and he said something foolish like, "She gave me a look only a mother could give to her child..."
It also contained show tunes, 40 of them in all. Broadway show tunes, and a copy of a songbook from "The King and I" signed by Hammerstein.
evince
Truthmatters
Wrong they all bowed.
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The Almighty
Then the breach of protocol is on the Emperor, not Obama. The two are equal in that they are both heads of state. The bow should have been returned.
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Do you have a link showing that? Because in that video, it did not appear as though the Emperor returned it... at least not to the same level.
christiefan915
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Claptrap.
Here's the list of downloads and there are two fricking speeches on it.
Is is possible for RWs to have a bigger hissy over nothing?
President and First Lady Obama gave Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II a video iPod with inscription, songs uploaded and accessories, plus a rare musical songbook signed by Richard Rodgers.
Uploaded onto the iPod:
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 White House State Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown, Va., Visit
* Photos from the Queen's 2007 Richmond, Va., Visit
* Video from the Queen's 1957 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Jamestown Visit
* Video from the Queen's 2007 Richmond Visit
* Photos from President Obama's Inauguration
* Audio of then-state senator Obama's speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, and
* Audio of President Obama 2009 Inauguration Address
Britain's Press Association reports that the Royal couple gave the Obamas "a silver-framed, signed photograph of themselves."
-- jpt
UPDATE: And the Obama team confirms that these show tunes were also uploaded on Ye Olde Queen's iPod, as first reported by the AP:
"Oklahoma!"
"If I Loved You," Jan Clayton, "Carousel"
"You'll Never Walk Alone," Jan Clayton, "Carousel"
"There's No Business Like Show Business," Ethel Merman, "Annie Get Your Gun"
"Once in Love with Amy (Where's Charley?)," Ray Bolger
"Some Enchanted Evening," "South Pacific"
"Diamonds Are a Girl's Best Friend," Carol Channing, "Gentlemen Prefer Blondes"
"Getting to Know You," Gertrude Lawrence, "The King and I"
"Shall We Dance?" Gertrude Lawrence, "The King and I"
"I Could Have Danced All Night," Julie Andrews, "My Fair Lady"
"I've Grown Accustomed to Her Face," Rex Harrison, "My Fair Lady"
"The Party's Over (Bells Are Ringing)," Judy Holliday
"Maria," "West Side Story"
"Tonight," "West Side Story"
"Seventy Six Trombones," "The Music Man"
"Everything's Coming up Roses," Ethel Merman, "Gypsy"
"The Sound of Music"
"Try to Remember," Jerry Orbach, "The Fantasticks"
"Camelot," Richard Burton
"If Ever I Would Leave You," Robert Goulet, "Camelot"
"Hello, Dolly!" Carol Channing
"If I Were a Rich Man," Zero Mostel, "Fiddler on the Roof"
"People," Barbra Streisand, "Funny Girl"
"On a Clear Day (You Can See Forever)," John Cullum
"The Impossible Dream," Richard Kiley, "Man of La Mancha"
"Mame," Charles Braswell
"Cabaret," Liza Minnelli
"Aquarius, Ronald Dyson, "Hair'
"Send in the Clowns," Judy Collins, "A Little Night Music"
"All That Jazz," Chita Rivera, "Chicago"
"One," "A Chorus Line"
"Tomorrow," Andrea McArdle, "Annie"
"Don't Cry for Me Argentina," Patti LuPone, "Evita"
"And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going," Jennifer Holliday, "Dreamgirls"
"Memory," Elaine Paige, "Cats"
"The Best of Times," George Hearn, "La Cage Aux Folles"
"I Dreamed a Dream," Aretha Franklin, "Les MisDerables"
"The Music of the Night," Michael Crawford, "The Phantom of the Opera"
"As If We Never Said Goodbye," Elaine Paige, "Sunset Blvd."
"Seasons of Love," "Rent"
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/what-does-one-g.html
evince
Truthmatters
They all bowed , it can be as little as a head nod, Hes in their country on their soil. Its the proper amount of reverance from a visitor in another mans home.