Video from 2017 of Trump rolling back Obama's train regulations. Trump is fucked!!!

[serendipity]

True.

And now the filthy MAGATs are screaming that the federal govt. -- i.e. Biden -- should do something. Like what? Since when are the taxpayers responsible for covering the cost of mitigation and cleanup when a corporation fucks up big time? The EPA is already on-scene and doing environmental monitoring. It is their mandate to take Norfolk-Southern to court, if necessary, and force them to clean up after themselves. The citizens can also sue as a class to recover any losses and harm suffered. If the QOP had its way, neither of those two remedial actions would be possible.

MAGATs are so incredibly ignorant and stupid.

So who thought it was a good idea to set fire to the vinyl chloride, which is a volatile gas at normal temperature and pressure, and thus produce massive amounts of phosgene? Yes, that's right, it was the EPA!! I wouldn't expect you to know that as that would require knowledge of a STEM discipline.

 

[ExpressLane]

Had the train been equipped with the proper brakes as per the Obama regulation, the train most likely would have stopped without derailment OR the derailment would not have been as catastrophic.

FACT ^^^^

The reason why it didn't qualify as a hazardous chemical train was also thanks to Rethuglickers' deregulation.

The whole fucking mess and environmental nightmare can be traced back and laid on the doorstep of the Ratpublican Party who everyone knows doesn't give a shit about the environment when corporate profits are concerned.

The NTSB said the derailment was caused by overheated wheel bearings that were overheating for at least 30 miles before the derailment. That is plenty of room for the train to come to a stop if the crew doesn't ignore the problem.

The Obama era safety rule : A high-hazard flammable unit train was defined as a train going faster than 30 miles per hour with at least 70 loaded tank cars containing certain highly flammable liquids, such as crude oil and ethanol.https://www.politifact.com/factchec...era-safety-rule-high-hazard-trains-was-repea/

"During the accident, 38 rail cars derailed and an additional 12 cars were damaged by a fire, according to an investigative update published by the National Transportation Safety Board on Tuesday. Of the 20 hazardous material cars in the train, half derailed, the company said. "https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-is-vinyl-chloride-what-other-chemicals-were-on-train-derailed-east-palestine-ohio/

So Nomad . Which is greater 70 or 20? The bottom line is the train did not even require electronic brakes per Obama's rules. Again this wasn't even a braking issue per the NTSB.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

So who thought it was a good idea to set fire to the vinyl chloride, which is a volatile gas at normal temperature and pressure, and thus produce massive amounts of phosgene? Yes, that's right, it was the EPA!! I wouldn't expect you to know that as that would require knowledge of a STEM discipline.

We wouldn't expect a low-info cretin like yourself to garner his "facts" from credible sources, Ms. SarinDipshit.

East Palestine fire chief silent when Environmental Protection Agency claims he ordered the controlled burn

A spokesperson with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Region 5 Monday that the Fire Chief of the East Palestine Fire Department was the individual who ordered the controlled burn following the catastrophic train derailment on February 3rd.

“EPA did not order the controlled burn. The local fire chief was the incident commander who made the decision in consultation with Norfolk Southern, local law enforcement, and response officials from Ohio,” the EPA spokesperson said.

According to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) an “Incident Commander (IC) is responsible for the overall management of the incident and determines which Command or General Staff positions to staff in order to maintain a manageable span of control and ensure appropriate attention to the necessary incident management functions.”

 

[ExpressLane]

True.

And now the filthy MAGATs are screaming that the federal govt. -- i.e. Biden -- should do something. Like what? Since when are the taxpayers responsible for covering the cost of mitigation and cleanup when a corporation fucks up big time? The EPA is already on-scene and doing environmental monitoring. It is their mandate to take Norfolk-Southern to court, if necessary, and force them to clean up after themselves. The citizens can also sue as a class to recover any losses and harm suffered. If the QOP had its way, neither of those two remedial actions would be possible.

MAGATs are so incredibly ignorant and stupid.

No one from the government has gone door to door to check for chemical contamination.

 

[serendipity]

We wouldn't expect a low-info cretin like yourself to garner his "facts" from credible sources, Ms. SarinDipshit.

East Palestine fire chief silent when Environmental Protection Agency claims he ordered the controlled burn

Who's we, the voices in your head?

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

No one from the government has gone door to door to check for chemical contamination.

And you know this because Tucker told you. Got it.

 

[ExpressLane]

And you know this because Tucker told you. Got it.

So the residents of East Palestine were lying on video. Got it

 

[Althea]

So who thought it was a good idea to set fire to the vinyl chloride, which is a volatile gas at normal temperature and pressure, and thus produce massive amounts of phosgene? Yes, that's right, it was the EPA!! I wouldn't expect you to know that as that would require knowledge of a STEM discipline.

Liar.

 

[ExpressLane]

Liar.

Remind me did the EPA stop the "Controlled Burn"

 

[Althea]

Remind me did the EPA stop the "Controlled Burn"

LOL.Lies will always be lies

 

[Nomad]

The NTSB said the derailment was caused by overheated wheel bearings that were overheating for at least 30 miles before the derailment. That is plenty of room for the train to come to a stop if the crew doesn't ignore the problem.

The Obama era safety rule : A high-hazard flammable unit train was defined as a train going faster than 30 miles per hour with at least 70 loaded tank cars containing certain highly flammable liquids, such as crude oil and ethanol.https://www.politifact.com/factchec...era-safety-rule-high-hazard-trains-was-repea/

So Nomad . Which is greater 70 or 20? The bottom line is the train did not even require electronic brakes per Obama's rules. Again this wasn't even a braking issue per the NTSB.

It's funny that we're talking about trains and brakes, what with you being the engineer of a bullshit train that has no brakes because it never stops anyway.

At first, the axle was 38 degrees above ambient temperature, according to recordings taken by a wayside defect detector, also called a hot bearing detector (HBD), which provides audible, real-time warnings to train crews. By the second alert, the axle was 103 degrees above ambient tempreature. When the third alert went off, it was 253 degrees above ambient.

According to the NTSB, a recorded temperature 200 degrees above ambient is considered "critical" and the train must stop.
Homendy said the crew did not have to act until that third, critical alert came in.

The HBD "transmitted an audible alarm message instructing the crew to slow and stop the train" after registering the critical temperature, the NTSB said.

Homendy said that the crew "took immediate action" after hearing the alarm, and stopped the train. While increasing the brake application to stop the train, a wheel bearing failed.

"We have no evidence that the crew did anything wrong," said Homendy.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ohio-t...t-wheel-bearing-final-stage-overheat-failure/

The bottom line is that if the train had been equipped with Obama brakes, the derailment likely would not have happened.

Buh-bye.

 

[Gondwanaland]

No way Trump lies his way out of this one.

The brakes were not the cause of the derailment. And the contents were not oil. So this is irrelevant to the Ohio spill. Not to mention Biden had 2 years to put it back in place if it was so important.

 

[Gondwanaland]

It's funny that we're talking about trains and brakes, what with you being the engineer of a bullshit train that has no brakes because it never stops anyway.



The bottom line is that if the train had been equipped with Obama brakes, the derailment likely would not have happened.

Buh-bye.

But it wouldn't have been equipped with Obama brakes you braindead cunt. Because the Obama regulations would not have required the train to have said brakes as it had less cars than the regulations required. It only had 20 cars, which is much less than the 70 or more required in the regulations to have brakes, And of those 20 only 5 were the vinyl chloride

 

[Nomad]

But it wouldn't have been equipped with Obama brakes you braindead cunt. Because the Obama regulations would not have required the train to have said brakes as it had less cars than the regulations required. It only had 20 cars, which is much less than the 70 or more required in the regulations to have brakes, And of those 20 only 5 were the vinyl chloride

And who is ultimately responsible for the 70 car minimum requirement in the regulation, you braindead cunt?

The Trump-supporting rail industry, that's who.

Do you not think Obama would have reduced the minimum number of cars required to get that high hazard designation if he could have?

Of course he would have.

Jacking up the minimum number of cars to 70 in order to be considered high hazard, was thanks to Congressional Republicans and rail industry pressure and lobbying so that they wouldn't have to spend more money to keep people safe from this shit.

They could have equipped all chemical tanker cars with those brakes, but they didn't want to spend the money.

Now you shitbags want to use it as an excuse for Trump gutting the regulation Obama managed to get.

Keep on sucking on that Trump supporting corporate asshole.

It's what you're good at.

 

[Gondwanaland]

And who is ultimately responsible for the 70 car minimum requirement in the regulation, you braindead cunt?

The Trump-supporting rail industry, that's who.

Do you not think Obama would have reduced the minimum number of cars required to get that high hazard designation if he could have?

Of course he would have.

Jacking up the minimum number of cars to 70 in order to be considered high hazard, was thanks to Congressional Republicans and rail industry pressure and lobbying so that they wouldn't have to spend more money to keep people safe from this shit.

They could have equipped all chemical tanker cars with those brakes, but they didn't want to spend the money.

Now you shitbags want to use it as an excuse for Trump gutting the regulation Obama managed to get.

Keep on sucking on that Trump supporting corporate asshole.

It's what you're good at.

THe 70 car thing was Obama's rule, you fucking moron. That's what Trump did away with, you fucking cum dumpster. So no, Obama wouldn't have lowered it because Obama was the fucking shitbag that put the 70 car thing into regulations to fucking begin with, you cocksleve

 

[Nomad]

THe 70 car thing was Obama's rule, you fucking moron. That's what Trump did away with, you fucking cum dumpster. So no, Obama wouldn't have lowered it because Obama was the fucking shitbag that put the 70 car thing into regulations to fucking begin with, you cocksleve

What kind of low educated, stupid fucking right-wing loser redneck moron thinks ANY President, Obama or otherwise, sits down with a pen and a notebook or behind a computer, and crafts a regulation about a complex, highly technical area of industrial technology by himself with no input from anyone else and with no attention paid to what the opposing side will accept without going to court?

Don't bother answering because we all know that it's only brainless fucking idiots like you who think such ignorant, simple-minded shit.

The derailment was the fault of the rail industry money grubbers, the corporate cock-sucking Rat-thuglicker Party and their fat-assed orange whore Dumpster-diver Donnie Trump.

Fuck you.

 

[Gondwanaland]

What kind of low educated, stupid fucking right-wing loser redneck moron thinks ANY President, Obama or otherwise, sits down with a pen and a notebook or behind a computer, and crafts a regulation about a complex, highly technical area of industrial technology by himself with no input from anyone else and with no attention paid to what the opposing side will accept without going to court?

Don't bother answering because we all know that it's only brainless fucking idiots like you who think such ignorant, simple-minded shit.

The derailment was the fault of the rail industry money grubbers, the corporate cock-sucking Rat-thuglicker Party and their fat-assed orange whore Dumpster-diver Donnie Trump.

Fuck you.

It's literally Obama's regulations, and you didn't realize that and are now scrambling away from your idiocy.

 

[Noking]

There was no pandemic.


... issue was created by Biden Regime Democrats in Congress.


... issue was fueled and stoked by the illegitimate Biden Regime.


... issue was created and exacerbated by Democrat governments and bureaucracies.


Supposedly it was an executive decision on Trump's part. Therefore, according to that line of reasoning, Biden could've reverted back to the Obama-era regulation via executive decision. He did not. Why not?


Your issue, not mine.

Your deficient mentality.

 

[Noking]

It's literally Obama's regulations, and you didn't realize that and are now scrambling away from your idiocy.

Talk about being a goofball

 

[Nomad]

It's literally Obama's regulations, and you didn't realize that and are now scrambling away from your idiocy.

That is just about the level of thick-skulled jackassery I figured you would come back at me with.

There is no such thing as an industry regulation written by one person, especially a person in the executive branch of government.

The way the process works is, Obama would have had his cabinet members in the transportation dept get together with industry experts, scientists, lawyers, political consultants etc, etc, who would investigate the problem then mount a joint effort to arrive at a workable regulatory solution that could also be something the rail industry could live with. Might not have been perfect, but it was an improvement in terms of safety for US citizens who live near railroad tracks upon which hazardous chemicals are transported.

Then your asshole hero/zero Douchebag Donnie Dumpster came along and just pissed and shit all over those people in order to score political points with rabid, mouth-foaming, knuckle-dragging right-wing bullet heads like you.

The mess is all on you and your fellow trailer park denizen trash.