Garland's refusal to indict Trump may be worse than Trump's crime.

Althea said:
It really wasn't germane to this discussion anyway, but his post only contained the link. No commentary.

He was just trying to distract from the fact that Jan. 6 was a criminal act, but it didn't work.
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Oh geez; You're still on about that, huh?

Yeah. Fuck off with that bullshit. Those were decent people and that election was cheated. It's not a crime to exercise your 1st amendment rights.
 
Althea said:
The fact is there are so many crimes to wade through, it has to be sorted out by Fed./State action.

I would say that the classified document theft was still being dealt with and until the exact scope of the crime was sorted out, there is no reason to bring charges. And the House investigation was in full swing, saving years of man hours for Garland. Now he simply has to indict those who obstructed justice in the House investigation.

The DOJ should not have to waste so much time prosecuting a criminal administration, but here we are. It's not like they were golfing the whole time.
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Name one!

LMAO!
 
LurchAddams said:
I both appreciate your wisdom and love your optimism. Don't get me wrong - I think trump should be in jail years ago - but only half this nation is logical and the illogical half was in charge during most of thump's crimes. The "good guys" are in charge now and I hope you are correct the Garland DOJ proceeds bravely.
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Agree. Lest we forget the reason trump HAD to win the election. He knew he was screwed the moment there was a real AG.

His criminal acts post election are the exact same actions that most common criminals take in order to cover up crimes.
 
Althea said:
Agree. Lest we forget the reason trump HAD to win the election. He knew he was screwed the moment there was a real AG.

His criminal acts post election are the exact same actions that most common criminals take in order to cover up crimes.
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The reason I'm so skeptical is because trump has power, both political and financial - and trump is good at bilking money out of the downtrodden. He'll never have to spend a dime of his own money for his defense.
 
LurchAddams said:
The reason I'm so skeptical is because trump has power, both political and financial - and trump is good at bilking money out of the downtrodden. He'll never have to spend a dime of his own money for his defense.
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This is going to take a Biden win in '24 to sort out. trump is being investigated for his fundraising that was supposed to be for legal expenses to prove the election was stolen. We know that he pocketed that money. Likewise for his other bogus money making schemes.

His ploy and that of his co conspirators is to keep challenging every indictment. They just want to slow down the process hoping that it all ends in Jan. '25.

Fortunately, the state courts are done with his schemes, and are now sanctioning his lawyers. One lawyer was hit with a million dollar penalty.
 
The commander in chief is undoubtedly a unique case, and the bar and evidence necessary to prosecute a former president should be high. But in the Stormy Daniels case, Mr. Trump was clearly implicated in court papers. If he’d been anyone else, he almost certainly would have faced felony charges. How is it better for our democracy for him to escape a charge that prosecutors would levy against anyone else?


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/20/opinion/ford-nixon-trump.html
 
Althea said:
This is going to take a Biden win in '24 to sort out. trump is being investigated for his fundraising that was supposed to be for legal expenses to prove the election was stolen. We know that he pocketed that money. Likewise for his other bogus money making schemes.

His ploy and that of his co conspirators is to keep challenging every indictment. They just want to slow down the process hoping that it all ends in Jan. '25.

Fortunately, the state courts are done with his schemes, and are now sanctioning his lawyers. One lawyer was hit with a million dollar penalty.
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Yep, I agree. That's why I think the state courts are our only hope - except - and I'm sorry about this - any challenge to a subpoena that if subject is wealthy enough - will get argued up to SCOTUS - the same SCOTUS that used arguments from 1000's of years ago to justify the overturn of Roe.
 
BidenPresident said:
you're an idiot
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The idiots are the Pedo Nazis, but not many people will join me in castigating them as the scum of the Earth. Sad.

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LurchAddams said:
Yep, I agree. That's why I think the state courts are our only hope - except - and I'm sorry about this - any challenge to a subpoena that if subject is wealthy enough - will get argued up to SCOTUS - the same SCOTUS that used arguments from 1000's of years ago to justify the overturn of Roe.
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Yes. That's the plan, but the chain of challenges seems to be advanced at record speed for the trump cases. Judges are getting sick and tired of being perceived as fools.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
99.9% of the people sentenced for Jan 6 crimes were for things like trespass, attacking police, etc. The usual things associated with rioting.
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Correct. In the early stages you pick the low hanging fruit. Now the real sentences are being handed down, and the criminals are dishing on trump.
 
BidenPresident said:
Trump should get away with trying to overthrow the government because some people will not like it?!
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That's not what I said at all.
What I said is that if we prosecute the losing side, even justifiably,
it would start a precedent of prosecuting the losing side, justifiably or not.

Our angry polarization is on the precipice of making us a banana republic.
Americans are too afflicted with "true believerism" to understand exactly how unstable we've become.
 
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