Georgia Grand Jury Report - No Election Fraud

[LurchAddams]

How many times are we going to see the same result? No election fraud in Georgia or anywhere.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/politics/takeaways-trump-georgia-grand-jury-report/index.html

"No widespread voter fraud in Georgia

The special grand jury “unanimously” concluded that there wasn’t widespread voter fraud in Georgia in 2020, rejecting Trump’s conspiracy theories after hearing “extensive testimony” from election officials, poll workers and other experts.

“The Grand Jury heard extensive testimony on the subject of alleged election fraud from poll workers, investigators, technical experts, and State of Georgia employees and officials, as well as from persons still claiming that such fraud took place,” the grand jury said.

“We find by a unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the Georgia 2020 presidential election that could result in overturning that election,” it added.

The grand jury’s conclusions on the fraud matter is important because it once again establishes that Trump was attempting to overturn the results of a legitimate election. That could factor into charging decisions by state prosecutors, who are weighing whether to indict Trump and his allies with crimes related to 2020."

 

[LurchAddams]

Also, where's the logic - if there really is widespread "Democrat election fraud", how did the Republicans take the house last cycle?

 

[LurchAddams]

Also, several people claiming election fraud are going to be charged with perjury.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/politics/takeaways-trump-georgia-grand-jury-report/index.html

"Potential perjury charges
The special grand jury recommended that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis consider indicting some witnesses for perjury.

"The grand jury “received evidence from or involving 75 witnesses during the course of this investigation, the overwhelming majority of which information was delivered in person under oath.” But jurors clearly weren’t satisfied.

Perjury “may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it,” according to portions of the report disclosed Thursday. “The Grand Jury recommends that the District Attorney seek appropriate indictments for such crimes where the evidence is compelling.”

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

How many times are we going to see the same result? No election fraud in Georgia or anywhere.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/politics/takeaways-trump-georgia-grand-jury-report/index.html

"No widespread voter fraud in Georgia

The special grand jury “unanimously” concluded that there wasn’t widespread voter fraud in Georgia in 2020, rejecting Trump’s conspiracy theories after hearing “extensive testimony” from election officials, poll workers and other experts.

“The Grand Jury heard extensive testimony on the subject of alleged election fraud from poll workers, investigators, technical experts, and State of Georgia employees and officials, as well as from persons still claiming that such fraud took place,” the grand jury said.

“We find by a unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the Georgia 2020 presidential election that could result in overturning that election,” it added.

The grand jury’s conclusions on the fraud matter is important because it once again establishes that Trump was attempting to overturn the results of a legitimate election. That could factor into charging decisions by state prosecutors, who are weighing whether to indict Trump and his allies with crimes related to 2020."

Let's see if we can guess how the Reichwingers will spin this. Fake news? The grand jury was composed of 100% liberals? They weren't given *all* the information?

 

[LurchAddams]

Let's see if we can guess how the Reichwingers will spin this. Fake news? The grand jury was composed of 100% liberals? They weren't given *all* the information?

I know Also, the jury's findings were unanimous. That doesn't happen very often. For a grand jury to indict, the vote doesn't have to be.

 

[BidenPresident]

Why is Trump still free?

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

... rejecting Trump’s conspiracy theories after hearing “extensive testimony” from election officials, poll workers and other experts

Trumpsters will say that those people were all in on it.

 

[Cypress]

Biden won Georgia for the sixth time.

The Kraken is zero for 273

 

[LurchAddams]

Why is Trump still free?

Because the DOJ is gun-shy to indict. It's been over 2 years. In the end, twump will end up paying a fine. I doubt he'll ever see the inside of a jail cell.

 

[LurchAddams]

Trumpsters will say that those people were all in on it.

Well, of course. Any wrongdoing on the part of twump is either excused, ignored, or justified by the MAGA claim that "the Dems are much worse!".

 

[BidenPresident]

Because the DOJ is gun-shy to indict. It's been over 2 years. In the end, twump will end up paying a fine. I doubt he'll ever see the inside of a jail cell.

As much as I like Biden, this is a monumental failure of his administration.

 

[LurchAddams]

As much as I like Biden, this is a monumental failure of his administration.

I cannot argue. Biden lets his DOJ act independently. twump was always pressuring Sessions and Barr to go after his political enemies. Barr lied about it to congress. Also, Garland is letting Smith operate independently. Barr and Durham dined out and drank together during the Durham witch hunt.

 

[BidenPresident]

I cannot argue. Biden lets his DOJ act independently. twump was always pressuring Sessions and Barr to go after his political enemies. Barr lied about it to congress. Also, Garland is letting Smith operate independently. Barr and Durham dined out and drank together during the Durham witch hunt.

The AG is not an elected office. He works for the President. A lot of people do not understand how government works.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

No election fraud?

In the immortal words of Vinny Gambini, "That's a fucking surprise."

 

[LurchAddams]

The AG is not an elected office. He works for the President. A lot of people do not understand how government works.

I think we've had this discussion before. My understanding is the AG serves at the pleasure of the president, meaning the president can appoint or fire him. I don't think it's appropriate for a president to direct his AG's activities.

 

[signalmankenneth]

How many times are we going to see the same result? No election fraud in Georgia or anywhere.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/politics/takeaways-trump-georgia-grand-jury-report/index.html

"No widespread voter fraud in Georgia

The special grand jury “unanimously” concluded that there wasn’t widespread voter fraud in Georgia in 2020, rejecting Trump’s conspiracy theories after hearing “extensive testimony” from election officials, poll workers and other experts.

“The Grand Jury heard extensive testimony on the subject of alleged election fraud from poll workers, investigators, technical experts, and State of Georgia employees and officials, as well as from persons still claiming that such fraud took place,” the grand jury said.

“We find by a unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the Georgia 2020 presidential election that could result in overturning that election,” it added.

The grand jury’s conclusions on the fraud matter is important because it once again establishes that Trump was attempting to overturn the results of a legitimate election. That could factor into charging decisions by state prosecutors, who are weighing whether to indict Trump and his allies with crimes related to 2020."

And because of this big lie about voter fraud in Georgia, Georgia enacted restricted voting laws in that state?!! And around the country too?!!

 

[BidenPresident]

I think we've had this discussion before. My understanding is the AG serves at the pleasure of the president, meaning the president can appoint or fire him. I don't think it's appropriate for a president to direct his AG's activities.

The AG is not independent of the Executive Branch. Some think it should be, but it is not.

 

[Jarod]

The AG is not an elected office. He works for the President. A lot of people do not understand how government works.

Traditionally, when it comes to prosecution of political figures or even specific people the President remains hands off to avoid impropriety, Trump did not follow that norm.

 

[BidenPresident]

Traditionally, when it comes to prosecution of political figures or even specific people the President remains hands off to avoid impropriety, Trump did not follow that norm.

What tradition? The US made the President the person who hires the Attorney General. With Senate approval, of course.

 

[Nordberg]

The AG is not an elected office. He works for the President. A lot of people do not understand how government works.

In fact, he is the nation's chief law official. He is not the president's attorney. He represents that country. That is just another barrier that Trump bulldozed. The president's connection is he nominates him for the position.