MY IDEA FOR GETTING AMERICA'S GUN PROBLEM UNDER CONTROL (by Dachshund)

look, when our founders say we had freedom of speech, they never dreamed of the internet where your speech could be so powerful

so time to rethink that
 
LV426 said:
LMAO!

Sure, because more people live there than in AK.

Is the reason you only want to look at gross numbers because you're gross?
Click to expand...

No I look at raw numbers because that's the actual number of dead human beings. You know what Mark Twain said dont you? He was a writer.
 
moon said:
Hypocritical dumbass..
Click to expand...

And now you're using my very effective attacks on you against me in a pathetic attempt to save that shitty ego of yours.

You're a hypocrite because you attack Israel for using the same justifications to occupy the West Bank and Gaza that Russia uses to occupy Donbass and Crimea.

The difference is that there is archeological evidence dating back thousands of years of Jews in Judea vs. nothing of the sort for Russia in Crimea.
 
Dachshund said:
Let's face facts, America has currently got a HUGE problem with gun crime.


I mean just look at what happened at Robb Elementary School (in Uvalde, Texas) last year. An 18 year old Hispanic (probably an illegal immigrant) walks into this Elementary School with an AR-15 rifle (which is effectively the same as a US Army M-16, only it cannot fire in fully = automatic mode - just semi-automatic, which means you can still squeeze off up to 60 rounds/minute). BTW, the AR-15 was the Official and Provisional IRA's favourite weapon; they loved it so much, they even wrote a song about it ("My Little Armalite", I think it was called). And guess who sent the IRA their very first batch of 27 AR-15s? I'll tell you, it was a group of crazy, white Yankee goof-balls who purchased them legally, over-the-counter, at gun shops in America, then bundled them all up together and sent them by US Post to Belfast. So, to continue, this 18 year old Hispanic casually walks into Robb Elementary School carrying an AR-15. He the, walks into a classroom of 4th grade kids and some teachers and says to them: "it's time to die." He then fires his AR-15 into the class and quickly kills 19 of the kids and two teachers. I forget how many casualties there were who survived. But the only way you don't die very fast if you are hit by a round from an AR-15 is if you are hit in an extremity like the hand/forearm or foot/lower leg.



Watching the video from the video cam-corder devices the cops were wearing and the footage from a school surveillance camera at the end of the hall the 4th graders' classroom was in - hearing rapid, semi-automatic fire from the AR-15 was one of the most sickening experiences of my life.



I hope you all understand that when the 2nd Amendment was ratified on December 15th of 1791, it was NEVER EVER the intention of the Founders that every American individual should be given some kind of absolute, sacred, right to purchase, possess and bear arms. That was NEVER, EVER, what they intended in the 2nd Amendment; and if they knew about the rates of gun crime in America today, they would be absolutely appalled and horrified


But how do you start to sort out the gigantic problem the US has with gun-crime today?


Here is just ONE measure I believe would at represent a meaningful start to sorting out the mess.


Any one over 18 who wants to purchase a firearm has to present official evidence that they have an IQ of 100 points AT LEAST, as evaluated using a standardised intelligence test (exactly like the US Military uses). A range of these tests already exist and have been validated countless times, they do not contain any kind of cultural bias either.


Of course, there is no absolute guarantee that a person who presents official evidence they have an IQ of 100 or over, will not buy a gun and perpetrate some heinous crime with it. But having an IQ of 100 points tend to correlate pretty well with being, at least, a NORMAL, REASONABLE, American adult - someone who is not unlikely to go and shoot up a elementry school

If Congress passed a measure like this , let's call it: the "Mandate for Cognitive Competence Firearms' Act"; OVERNIGHT South Chicago, to give one example, would be transformed from a bloody "killing field" to a relatively safe area. I GUARANTEE it.

For those who would object to such a firearms bill, the unified political response from Congress would be: "TOUGH TITTY, DUDE !! IT'S A GOOD PROPOSAL THAT WILL SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES AT THE STROKE OF A PEN.


Dachshund - the Wonder Hound


DLM....Dachshund Live Matter !!
Click to expand...

Molon Labe, Motherfucker
 
LV426 said:
But by doing so, you're closing yourself off to the full story.
Click to expand...

I don't believe I am. The actual story is the number of dead bodies. No family who has to bury one of their lives really cares how many dead bodies per 100,000 there are. Their one dead relative is all that matters. I understand youre trying to show that Alaska is more dangerous than Illinois. It's good political tactic and one in respect but in the final analysis only the number dead really means anything.
 
Yakuda said:
I don't believe I am.
Click to expand...

Well, you are.

Do you do that with everything in your life?

Like, do you just not open letters from your creditors, so that way you don't have to confront your debt?

Because the message you send when you do that is that you are afraid.

You are afraid of admitting your judgment isn't as good as you want people to think it is.
 
Yakuda said:
No family who has to bury one of their lives really cares how many dead bodies per 100,000 there are.
Click to expand...

Nor do they care about gross totals, either.

All they care about is their likelihood of being a victim...and if you live in AK, you have a higher chance of being a victim than if you live in IL.
 
Nothing consequential is ever going to be done about out of control gun violence in America, there are too many vested interests making tons of money off of guns who also own gutless politicians more concerned with their own personal ambitions to address the debacle.

In addition, these same interests finance a massive pseudo intellectual propaganda effort playing on reframed romantic notions of an 18th Century America that too many Americans swallow

If Sandy Hook, four and five year old kids getting slaughtered by a guy with a semiautomatic weapon, didn’t produce any change nothing ever will, the violence and death will continue to escalate until America looks like Yemen
 
LV426 said:
Well, you are.

Do you do that with everything in your life?

Like, do you just not open letters from your creditors, so that way you don't have to confront your debt?

Because the message you send when you do that is that you are afraid.

You are afraid of admitting your judgment isn't as good as you want people to think it is.
Click to expand...

You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not wrong that the only relevant number is the number of dead bodies. BTW I don't have the time or desire to respond to multiple post by you about the same topic. Continue to do it and I'll just stop responding all together.
 
Dachshund said:
America is an advanced, Western nation that has the very worst problem with gun violence/crime/homicide of any advanced, civilised country on Earth right now. You need to face up to the facts and start to implement some kind of meaningful gun control measures. The fact that 18 year -old Mexican - American (??) kid can buy an AR-15 (i.e. a semi-automatic M-16) without any serious/meaningful vetting process IS PURE F**KING MADNESS.



Dachshund - the Wonder Hound


DLM....Dachshund Lives Matter !
Click to expand...

I used to think that way but the problem is not the guns, it is that this society is diseased and grows historically large numbers malformed people who want to hurt us. The solution is not more gun prohibitions but more guns in the hands of people who have the courage to use them against those who are trying to hurt us. When people know that they are likely to end up dead before they get very many shots in they are less likely to embark on the project, often not because they will die as a many actually want to die, but because they will not be successful.
 
Yakuda said:
You're entitled to your opinion.
Click to expand...

Cop out.

No one is entitled to their opinion because entitlements are earned and opinions are not.


Yakuda said:
I'm not wrong that the only relevant number is the number of dead bodies
Click to expand...

Yes, you are wrong.

You even said yourself "all that matters is the ONE dead relative".

Does that still matter, or do you wish to change your argument?
 
Yakuda said:
BTW I don't have the time or desire to respond to multiple post by you about the same topic. Continue to do it and I'll just stop responding all together.
Click to expand...

Don't threaten me with a good time.

Oh, and I break up posts to multiple responses for your benefit, not mine.

That way you can't whine or screech that I'm taking you out of context, and have that serve as the excuse for why you won't defend your point on any given thread.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I used to think that way but the problem is not the guns, it is that this society is diseased and grows historically large numbers malformed people who want to hurt us. The solution is not more gun prohibitions but more guns in the hands of people who have the courage to use them against those who are trying to hurt us. When people know that they are likely to end up dead before they get very many shots in they are less likely to embark on the project, often not because they will die as a many actually want to die, but because they will not be successful.
Click to expand...

Do you have a clue how absurd that post was? Start by defining who should be allowed to have a gun and act as police. Do they get constant training? Do we psychologically test them? Do we periodically test them?
The problem is guns and how easy it is to get them. Do you think a crazy guy with a gun is afraid of being shot? That is how many, many shootings end and many shooters seek that.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top