Electric Cars: Square Peg, Round Hole

Oh jesus christ
I am not Jesus Christ (names and titles are capitalized btw), nor will I ever pretend to be. Like John the Baptist said, I am not worthy to untie the straps of his sandals.

in heaven
Yes, he is in Heaven (proper nouns are capitalized), seated at the right hand of God.

will you Conservatives
I am but one person, as already noted earlier.

STOP WITH THE ALLIGATOR TEARS over the poor kids in the Congo!
No. You do not get to ignore the impact that your Church of Global Warming agenda is having on people, including the children in the Congo who mine the cobalt to fuel that agenda. I thought that liberals like yourself were a "tolerant", "caring", and "loving" group of people, right?? Apparently not...

YOU ALREADY ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THEIR LABOR EVERY SINGLE DAY even if you don't own solar.
Nope. The children in the Congo are not necessary for the cobalt required for lithium-ion batteries in things such as cell phones. Other mines which employ adults in much better conditions are perfectly capable of providing for that need. It's the EVs and the overall "green new deal" agenda that requires the child labor in the Congo (and beyond even THAT supply of cobalt).

Let's dispense with this canard.
No, let's not.

Most conservatives couldn't give one flying FUCK what is mined in their names for their ICE vehicles or the various electronics they use,
Examples?

but if they can score points on a lib then suddenly you all actually CARE. LOL. Sorry, not buyin' it.
You act like I need to work to "score points on libs". I need to do nothing but to simply point out their blatant and constant hypocrisy... IOW, they already do it to themselves. A common example is with the whole "election denier" mantra that is popular with them atm...
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Another one is when they pretend to stand up for human rights elsewhere while removing them at home...
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Another one is when they pretend to be loving/caring when they are actually the ones filled with hatred...
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I got many more examples, but JPP only allows me to attach 5 files per post. I'll provide even more receipts in another post if these five aren't enough for you.

Deal with it. Get solar, learn something. OR don't.
Your issues, not mine.

But don't whine about not having solar and trying to score disingenuous points on a topic you are woefully unfamiliar with.
Your issue, not mine. Will you answer my questions that I asked of you about your solar setup or are you going to continue being a pansy ass, copping out via whining about "personal information", even though prices of products are not personal information?
 
I am not Jesus Christ (names and titles are capitalized btw), nor will I ever pretend to be. Like John the Baptist said, I am not worthy to untie the straps of his sandals.

Were dropped on your head as child?

Nope. The children in the Congo are not necessary for the cobalt required for lithium-ion batteries

And you don't think there's cobalt in anything else you might run across in your daily life???

And do you honestly think ONLY cobalt is mined using child or other bad types of labor?

I've got some bridges to sell you.

Your issue, not mine. Will you answer my questions that I asked of you about your solar setup or are you going to continue being a pansy ass, copping out via whining about "personal information", even though prices of products are not personal information?

LOL. Moron.
 
Were dropped on your head as child?
Apparently YOU were, as you can't even form coherent sentences.

And you don't think there's cobalt in anything else you might run across in your daily life???
I've made no such claim, super genius.
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And do you honestly think ONLY cobalt is mined using child or other bad types of labor?
I've made no such claim, super genius
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I've got some bridges to sell you.
No need, as I have not claimed anything that you are attributing to me.

LOL. Moron.
I'll take that as an "I'll continue to cop out" response. You clearly have nothing intelligent to say.
 
Apparently YOU were, as you can't even form coherent sentences.

Good catch, cunt.

I've made no such claim, super genius.

You aren't very bright.

I'll take that as an "I'll continue to cop out" response. You clearly have nothing intelligent to say.

Or you can take it as "I don't respect you even one tiny bit so I honestly don't care if you understand or not. You don't seem very sharp and you aren't worth me giving you ANY information because, well, you aren't very sharp."

Whichever makes you feel better.
 
Yeah but you pollute the Earth and abuse children

So do you. Hate to break it to you but child labor is used in a lot of the things you enjoy as well.

and Chinese slaves with rare earth mining.

And you are of the opinion that Solar PV systems are the ONLY things using rare earths? LOL. Don't know much about chemistry do ya?

So you must feel great about yourself.

Well, I feel as good about myself as you do.

How many miles a day can you go and aa solar charge made from slave labor solar batteries anyway?

LOL. You are a horrible person for using a computer. You know all the evil you accuse me of you commit yourself. You're just too stupid to know it. :)



(Just curious: do you know what elements are actually Rare Earth elements? Could you find the rare earths on a periodic table?)
 
So do you. Hate to break it to you but child labor is used in a lot of the things you enjoy as well.



And you are of the opinion that Solar PV systems are the ONLY things using rare earths? LOL. Don't know much about chemistry do ya?



Well, I feel as good about myself as you do.



LOL. You are a horrible person for using a computer. You know all the evil you accuse me of you commit yourself. You're just too stupid to know it. :)



(Just curious: do you know what elements are actually Rare Earth elements? Could you find the rare earths on a periodic table?)

Can you spell lanthanides?
 
Oh jesus christ in heaven will you Conservatives STOP WITH THE ALLIGATOR TEARS over the poor kids in the Congo! YOU ALREADY ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF THEIR LABOR EVERY SINGLE DAY even if you don't own solar.
Solar panels don't have cobalt in them.
Let's dispense with this canard.
This is YOUR canard.
Most conservatives couldn't give one flying FUCK what is mined in their names for their ICE vehicles or the various electronics they use,
Cobalt is not found in ICE vehicles. It is not used in the engine, any of the computers running the engine, nor in the transmission.
but if they can score points on a lib then suddenly you all actually CARE. LOL. Sorry, not buyin' it.
Because you condemn anyone that is not of your religion.
Deal with it. Get solar, learn something. OR don't.
Nah. It's the most expensive method of generating electricity.
But don't whine about not having solar and trying to score disingenuous points on a topic you are woefully unfamiliar with.
What makes you think gfm7175 or me is 'whining about not having solar'??????!? You are hallucinating again.
 
Were dropped on your head as child?
Really?????? Are you going to use that old cliche????? Lame.
And you don't think there's cobalt in anything else you might run across in your daily life???
Sure. Not all cobalt is mined in the Congo by children in unspeakable conditions.
And do you honestly think ONLY cobalt is mined using child or other bad types of labor?
He just said otherwise, dumbass. Pay attention.
I've got some bridges to sell you.
Nah. You don't. You are making that up too.
 
So do you. Hate to break it to you but child labor is used in a lot of the things you enjoy as well.
Straw man fallacy. Void argument fallacy.
And you are of the opinion that Solar PV systems are the ONLY things using rare earths? LOL. Don't know much about chemistry do ya?
Word stuffing. You deny chemistry.
Well, I feel as good about myself as you do.
I already know you don't. You live in fear. You desire tyranny.
LOL. You are a horrible person for using a computer. You know all the evil you accuse me of you commit yourself. You're just too stupid to know it. :)
Paradox. Irrational.
(Just curious: do you know what elements are actually Rare Earth elements? Could you find the rare earths on a periodic table?)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Apparently YOU can't!

Just like you think Sweden is in the Arctic!
Just like you think you can heat a warmer object with a colder one!
 
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Biden admin bans mining for cobalt, nickel in Minnesota.

The ‘Twin Metals Project’ would have tapped the Duluth Complex, where 95 percent of U.S. nickel reserves and 88 percent of U.S. cobalt reserves remain underground.

The Biden administration blocked plans for a major nickel and cobalt mine in northern Minnesota Thursday while the U.S. remains reliant on overseas supply chains for its critical minerals.

The “Twin Metals Project” would have tapped the Duluth Complex within the Superior National Forest, where 95 percent of the nation’s nickel reserves and 88 percent of American cobalt reserves remain underground.

Now, pending litigation over leases, the Department of the Interior has blocked the nearly $3 billion mine over concerns about the safety of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness inside the national forest.

“The Department of the Interior takes seriously our obligations to steward public lands and waters on behalf of all Americans,” Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a press release. “Protecting a place like Boundary Waters is key to supporting the health of the watershed and its surrounding wildlife, upholding our Tribal trust and treaty responsibilities, and boosting the local recreation economy.”

The department withdrew more than 225,000 acres of the Superior National Forest from consideration for mining operations, ensuring the Twin Metals project’s demise for the foreseeable future.

The agency’s decision to block the project, however, is a major step back for American mineral independence while the government’s mining regime remains so broken that the administration is shopping in Canada for natural resources.

Debra Struhsacker, a hardrock mining and environmental policy expert who has testified before Congress five times, told The Federalist the administration’s refusal to allow the Twin Metals project to move forward is premature.

“It is truly unfortunate that at a time when there is widespread recognition that the U.S. urgently needs the copper, nickel, and cobalt in the Twin Metals mineral deposit to help achieve the nation’s clean energy objectives, that this world-class deposit is now off-limits for at least two decades,” Struhsacker said. “The public’s interest would have been better served if the administration had performed a rigorous environmental analysis under the National Environmental Policy Act to examine the specifics of Twin Metal’s proposed mining project and determine whether the deposit could have been developed in a way that would have ensured environmental protection of the Boundary Waters Area Watershed.”

Meanwhile, a report from the left-leaning Brookings Institute published last fall warned about the severe vulnerability presented in mineral supply chains by an overreliance on overseas adversaries. Even as leftist lawmakers want to ramp up the use of emissions-free energy technologies that require critical minerals, the Biden administration has slow-walked efforts to reform the U.S. regulatory regime over mining.

Beijing stands to benefit the most from Washington’s neglect.

According to Brookings, nearly 70 percent of the world’s cobalt comes from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), where workers often operate in sub-human conditions complete with child labor. The Chinese have out-invested every global competitor in the Congolese mines.

More than 30 percent of the world’s nickel comes from Indonesia, where the Chinese are also investing heavily to cement a sphere of communist influence. The East Asian island country has also struggled to mine sustainably.

Republican Rep. Pete Stauber, who represents the district in northern Minnesota where the White House has doomed the Twin Metals Project, called the administration’s ruling “an attack on our way of life.”

“Unfortunately, this harm to our country and our future has become the norm, as this President’s goal is to put America last,” Stauber said in a press release. “Not even one month ago, Joe Biden signed an agreement to fund mining projects in Chinese-owned mines in the Congo, where over 40,000 children work as slaves in forced labor and inhumane conditions with no environmental protections.”

Last week, Politico highlighted President Biden’s African pivot to counter Chinese dominance on the continent’s lucrative mines.

“In a memorandum of understanding Wednesday, the State Department pledged to help build an EV battery supply chain in Congo and Zambia,” E&E News reported. “The department and other U.S. agencies will offer technical assistance to the two countries, cooperate on feasibility studies and explore opportunities in the sector for U.S. companies, according to the [memorandum].”

Last year, House Republicans launched an investigation into Hunter Biden’s involvement with the sale of a Congolese cobalt mine to a Chinese company in 2016.

Meanwhile, President Biden’s Department of the Interior has stonewalled efforts at effective oversight of the agency’s decisions surrounding the Twin Metals project.

In May last year, the department demanded thousands of dollars to release records on an earlier decision to cancel leases.

Peter McGinnis, a spokesman for the Functional Government Initiative (FGI), which filed the request for documents under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), told The Federalist Thursday the department eventually waived the fee but has yet to comply with the public transparency law.

“On the one hand, the Biden administration is advocating for a clean-energy transition and claims it is fixing the supply chain crisis,” McGinnis said. “On the other, it is cutting off access to domestic supplies of the raw materials needed to make that transition happen and leaving us more dependent on China for these critical minerals.”

https://t.co/c6eHdwLbem
 
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The big story of 2023 just might be the clash between the global elites who have imposed electric vehicle mandates and the worldwide “irredeemable deplorables” for whom an electric vehicle is not on their shopping list.

The federal government, many state governments, and much of the automobile industry – and their counterparts worldwide – have decreed that the world abandon the internal combustion engine in favor of the (often-coal-fired) electric vehicle.

Mandates for banning new sales of conventional vehicles are as plentiful as schemes to disallow further production of “evil” fossil fuels that brought a total transformation of the world economy in little more than a century. Moreover, most automakers have pledged to end production of conventional vehicles within the next few years.

While sales of EVs “boomed” last year, the 6 million EVs still comprise less than half a percent of the world’s 1.4 billion vehicles. Yet Bloomberg New Energy Finance claims that by 2040 a third of all vehicles on the road will be EVs, and EVs will account for 58 percent of global passenger vehicle sales.

From 6 million to 500 million in 17 years? Or will the total number of vehicles shrink dramatically as fewer people either want or can afford a personal vehicle?

Or will these bold predictions – fueled by top-down mandates – be as reliable as Paul Ehrlich’s prognostigation that “during the 1970s hundreds of millions of people will starve to death … and nothing can be done [to stop it]”? Or as “successful” as those five-year plans of Chairman Mao?

As Stellantis CEO Carlos Tavares put it, “What is clear is that electrification is a technology chosen by politicians, not by industry.” Policymakers, realizing that a vast majority have yet to embrace EVs, have turned to coercion to force people out of the vehicles they have relied upon for over a century. Some are even gleeful that the result will be far fewer vehicles on the road.

Reports from the United Kingdom provide a few clues as to why people’s skepticism is warranted. For starters, EV charging stations are often unreliable. An analysis of public charging data by LeaseLoco found that 43 percent of chargers at major supermarket sites had connection issues or were completely out of order – meaning no charge at all or a longer wait to charge.

And about those charging times? Does it always take five days to fully charge the new GMC Hummer EV? The entire U.S. “network” of EV chargers (especially those “fast” chargers that enable you to eat lunch at the convenience store that once was a gasoline station) today can only accommodate a very small percentage of the nation’s 280 million vehicles.

And that’s when there IS available electricity! California and the EU have already proven that a massive switch to EVs will ensure the regularity of power blackouts. In cold weather, a dead EV battery may not even take a charge. Just another byproduct of central planning that fails to take into consideration every variable.

And forget about saving money down the road despite the higher initial cost of the EV. The AA in the UK reports that new peak pricing at EV charging stations can leave consumers worse off than if they had kept their gasoline vehicle. That’s hardly an incentive to purchase an EV that in Europe is 27 percent more expensive than a gasoline-powered vehicle.

In the U.S., just as in Europe, the less reliable the electric grid, the higher the price of electricity that governments and billionaires want to force you to use to go anywhere. Worldwide, people are waking up to the burdensome costs of the super-regulatory state.

Then there is the materials issue. As Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe explained last April, “Put very simply, all the world’s cell production combined represents well under 10 percent of what we will need in 10 years [to fulfill EV mandates]– meaning 90 to 95 percent of the supply chain does not exist.”

Then there is the geopolitics issue. Nearly all of the lithium required for today’s EV batteries is processed in China, and China is using its dominance to roll out EVs with much lower sticker prices than American, European, Japanese, and Korean automakers can match. Increased dependence on China could lead to subservience far beyond what exists (though largely hidden from public view) today.

The bleak prospect of working around Chinese dominance took another hit recently with the collapse of Britishvolt – before the heavily subsidized startup ever built a single EV battery. Investors who a year ago thought the company was worth a billion dollars now face a fire sale (to an Indonesian company) that might get back 13 cents per dollar invested.

The Telegraph summarizes this embarrassing moment in British history as the result of adopting a “cart before the horse” approach – trying to stimulate demand by creating supply. Another way of saying trying to pound a square peg into a round hole.

What’s the solution to these top-down mandates for a pie-in-the-sky “solution” to the imagined crisis posed by the continued use of gasoline and diesel fuel? Wyoming lawmakers are taking the hard-line approach – banning the sale of EVs in the state by 2035.

State lawmakers who proposed the ban cited the lack of supply of critical minerals, the high cost of EV battery disposal to in-state landfills, the need to protect the state’s profitable oil and gas industry, and the impracticality of EVs in Wyoming’s sparsely populated territory as reasons to fight back against nationwide EV mandates.

Maybe it’s the mountain air. Maybe it’s self-preservation. Whatever the reason for this rare display of wisdom, it is high time for more states to “have what Wyoming’s having” and fight back against the elites whose plans for the future do not include our continued prosperity.

The EV today has become the symbol of the One World Order in which billionaires and their cronies alone intend to determine what we can drive, eat, and say. Put another way, the EV mandate is a globalist Trojan horse designed to lure us into believing we are saving the planet when in fact we are ensuring our own demise.

Will we listen to the good people of tiny Wyoming? Or will we laugh them off as kooks as the World Economic Forum crowd steps up its timetable for when “we will own nothing” and we had better be thankful that we are still allowed to breathe?

The Federalist is a questionable site
 
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Biden admin bans mining for cobalt, nickel in Minnesota.

The ‘Twin Metals Project’ would have tapped the Duluth Complex, where 95 percent of U.S. nickel reserves and 88 percent of U.S. cobalt reserves remain underground.

The Biden administration blocked plans for a major nickel and cobalt mine in northern Minnesota Thursday while the U.S. remains reliant on overseas supply chains for its critical minerals.

The “Twin Metals Project” would have tapped the Duluth Complex within the Superior National Forest, where 95 percent of the nation’s nickel reserves and 88 percent of American cobalt reserves remain underground.

Now, pending litigation over leases, the Department of the Interior has blocked the nearly $3 billion mine over concerns about the safety of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness inside the national forest.

“The Department of the Interior takes seriously our obligations to steward public lands and waters on behalf of all Americans,” Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a press release. “Protecting a place like Boundary Waters is key to supporting the health of the watershed and its surrounding wildlife, upholding our Tribal trust and treaty responsibilities, and boosting the local recreation economy.”

The department withdrew more than 225,000 acres of the Superior National Forest from consideration for mining operations, ensuring the Twin Metals project’s demise for the foreseeable future.

The agency’s decision to block the project, however, is a major step back for American mineral independence while the government’s mining regime remains so broken that the administration is shopping in Canada for natural resources.

Debra Struhsacker, a hardrock mining and environmental policy expert who has testified before Congress five times, told The Federalist the administration’s refusal to allow the Twin Metals project to move forward is premature.

“It is truly unfortunate that at a time when there is widespread recognition that the U.S. urgently needs the copper, nickel, and cobalt in the Twin Metals mineral deposit to help achieve the nation’s clean energy objectives, that this world-class deposit is now off-limits for at least two decades,” Struhsacker said. “The public’s interest would have been better served if the administration had performed a rigorous environmental analysis under the National Environmental Policy Act to examine the specifics of Twin Metal’s proposed mining project and determine whether the deposit could have been developed in a way that would have ensured environmental protection of the Boundary Waters Area Watershed.”

Meanwhile, a report from the left-leaning Brookings Institute published last fall warned about the severe vulnerability presented in mineral supply chains by an overreliance on overseas adversaries. Even as leftist lawmakers want to ramp up the use of emissions-free energy technologies that require critical minerals, the Biden administration has slow-walked efforts to reform the U.S. regulatory regime over mining.

Beijing stands to benefit the most from Washington’s neglect.

According to Brookings, nearly 70 percent of the world’s cobalt comes from the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), where workers often operate in sub-human conditions complete with child labor. The Chinese have out-invested every global competitor in the Congolese mines.

More than 30 percent of the world’s nickel comes from Indonesia, where the Chinese are also investing heavily to cement a sphere of communist influence. The East Asian island country has also struggled to mine sustainably.

Republican Rep. Pete Stauber, who represents the district in northern Minnesota where the White House has doomed the Twin Metals Project, called the administration’s ruling “an attack on our way of life.”

“Unfortunately, this harm to our country and our future has become the norm, as this President’s goal is to put America last,” Stauber said in a press release. “Not even one month ago, Joe Biden signed an agreement to fund mining projects in Chinese-owned mines in the Congo, where over 40,000 children work as slaves in forced labor and inhumane conditions with no environmental protections.”

Last week, Politico highlighted President Biden’s African pivot to counter Chinese dominance on the continent’s lucrative mines.

“In a memorandum of understanding Wednesday, the State Department pledged to help build an EV battery supply chain in Congo and Zambia,” E&E News reported. “The department and other U.S. agencies will offer technical assistance to the two countries, cooperate on feasibility studies and explore opportunities in the sector for U.S. companies, according to the [memorandum].”

Last year, House Republicans launched an investigation into Hunter Biden’s involvement with the sale of a Congolese cobalt mine to a Chinese company in 2016.

Meanwhile, President Biden’s Department of the Interior has stonewalled efforts at effective oversight of the agency’s decisions surrounding the Twin Metals project.

In May last year, the department demanded thousands of dollars to release records on an earlier decision to cancel leases.

Peter McGinnis, a spokesman for the Functional Government Initiative (FGI), which filed the request for documents under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), told The Federalist Thursday the department eventually waived the fee but has yet to comply with the public transparency law.

“On the one hand, the Biden administration is advocating for a clean-energy transition and claims it is fixing the supply chain crisis,” McGinnis said. “On the other, it is cutting off access to domestic supplies of the raw materials needed to make that transition happen and leaving us more dependent on China for these critical minerals.”

https://t.co/c6eHdwLbem

Just goes to show that Democrats would bring slavery back in this country if they could. They will certainly settle for slavery elsewhere.
 
YALSA. You have nothing to add, so you go for the 'sock' insults.

Excuses!

You are about as full of excuses as you are full of shit.

Because you're insincere, nothing you write here carries any weight because you don't even believe it!

That's why you come up with excuses; you're petrified of people learning that you don't believe in anything; you're just here on JPP to serve your own personal need for validation.
 
Excuses!

You are about as full of excuses as you are full of shit.

Because you're insincere, nothing you write here carries any weight because you don't even believe it!

That's why you come up with excuses; you're petrified of people learning that you don't believe in anything; you're just here on JPP to serve your own personal need for validation.

Repetition fallacy (chanting). Word stuffing. Psychoquackery.
 
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