Florida book bans - the first step before burning

TOP said:
No...simply not true... I find it fascinating that it bothers you.... or anyone here... that I'm a retired teacher though...and I am...;)
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Actions speak louder than words, TOP.

The fact you are long on words and short on acting like someone with 20+ years of teaching experience leaves many people to believe you are a demented liar.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Every one knows you have, TOP. You whine about it daily. :rofl2:

BTW, real teachers use spell check. Jus' sayin'. :thup:
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This is the same racist who claimed here on JPP that "none of my black neighbors feel oppressed." (except that I spelled it correctly, lol). Who goes around and quizzes people in their neighborhood about feeling oppressed anyways? Liars gonna lie.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
He also claims he's not a violent person even though he's one of the most hateful members of JPP.
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I've never received any kind of direct threat from Yakuda. Usually he speaks generally about ambiguous "leftists". Occasionally we reach a détente, but only when he's being reasonable.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
...and people wonder why so many 20somethings are fucked up these days. My guess is two words: "Helicopter Parents". LOL
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There's a difference between wanting your kid to read and learn good literature, and partnering with their teachers -- and constantly bitching about those teachers in front of the kids and teaching them disrespect.

Here's someone who holds herself out as a teacher but who isn't, and has no idea what the books are on that FL teacher's list but by the gods she's gonna stand up for them being banned regardless. And then she attacks the teacher as substandard for encouraging the reading of them -- *without even knowing what books they are.* As I said, she's a great Nazi and would go far in DeSatan's Fourth Reich.
 
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Vaguely written laws, no specific guidance, and no specific ban lists are the hallmarks of laziness and abject lack of interest in good governance.

Which is right up MAGA's alley.
 
Cypress said:
Vaguely written laws, no specific guidance, and no specific ban lists are the hallmarks of laziness and abject lack of interest in good governance.

Which is right up MAGA's alley.
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While that is often true and common among populists, in this case I think it's a little more nefarious in Florida. The Alt-Right intentionally makes the laws vague so that they could be used more widely and subject to selective interpretation.

Example; DeSantis claims to be against pedophilia, but he's not pursuing Matt Gaetz, only homosexual pedophilia. By default, it appears he's okay with heterosexual pedophilia.

Notice how often JPP members follow the same ideology. No condemnation of Roy Moore, Pedo Don or Matt Gaetz, but the first to condemn homosexual sex in any form.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
There's a difference between wanting your kid to read and learn good literature, and partnering with their teachers -- and constantly bitching about those teachers in front of the kids and teaching them disrespect.

Here's someone who holds herself out as a teacher but who isn't, and has no idea what the books are on that DL teacher's list but by the gods she's gonna stand up for them being banned regardless. And then she attacks the teacher as substandard for encouraging the reading of them -- *without even knowing what books they are.* As I said, she's a great Nazi and would go far in DeSatan's Fourth Reich.
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Which goes back to something that has been going on for the past 30 years: these same types of parents attack the schools and teacher for their little darlings failing to do school work, failing to "learn" while simultaneously hobbling the same schools and teachers from teaching.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
While that is often true and common among populists, in this case I think it's a little more nefarious in Florida. The Alt-Right intentionally makes the laws vague so that they could be used more widely and subject to selective interpretation.

Example; DeSantis claims to be against pedophilia, but he's not pursuing Matt Gaetz, only homosexual pedophilia. By default, it appears he's okay with heterosexual pedophilia.

Notice how often JPP members follow the same ideology. No condemnation of Roy Moore, Pedo Don or Matt Gaetz, but the first to condemn homosexual sex in any form.
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I agree that the inability to actually craft functional laws is both due to MAGA's laziness and stupidity, but also aligns with an ulterior motive to create a climate of uncertainty and harassment.
 
Cypress said:
Vaguely written laws, no specific guidance, and no specific ban lists are the hallmarks of laziness and abject lack of interest in good governance.

Which is right up MAGA's alley.
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If you keep it vague, then almost anything that annoys someone somewhere can be used to punish a teacher or school for allegedly violating the statute.

I wonder how long till this makes it to the U.S. Supreme Court.
 
LV426 said:
I've never received any kind of direct threat from Yakuda. Usually he speaks generally about ambiguous "leftists". Occasionally we reach a détente, but only when he's being reasonable.
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Maybe it's because he's been booted off other forums for direct threats....or received warnings about doing it on JPP.

He's violent, not completely stupid.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
If you keep it vague, then almost anything that annoys someone somewhere can be used to punish a teacher or school for allegedly violating the statute.

I wonder how long till this makes it to the U.S. Supreme Court.
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Similar to how a lot of Soviet era and Putin era laws were deliberately vague to create a climate of maximum flexibility to harass.

My aunt's husband was arrested and sent to the Gulag because Article 58 of the Soviet penal code criminalized "collaboration with foreign entities". And my uncle-in-law was apparently seen talking to some Japanese.
 
Cypress said:
I agree that the inability to actually craft functional laws is both due to MAGA's laziness and stupidity, but also aligns with an ulterior motive to create a climate of uncertainty and harassment.
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I'd be okay with a ban on Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries in a fourth grade classroom.

But the intentional vagueness of this law, and the fact MAGA's were too lazy and devious to provide a ban list or specific guidance, is obviously intended to cast as wide a net as possible on all American and European literature.
 
Cypress said:
Similar to how a lot of Soviet era and Putin era laws were deliberately vague to create a climate of maximum flexibility to harass.

My aunt's husband was arrested and sent to the Gulag because Article 58 of the Soviet penal code criminalized "collaboration with foreign entities". And my uncle-in-law was apparently seen talking to some Japanese.
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Sounds right up DeSatan's alley, doesn't it? Can't you see a teacher being fired in FL for reading the Ruby Bridges story out loud to her 1st graders? Or another being arrested for having a children's book in the classroom that has a gay character in it?
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Sounds right up DeSatan's alley, doesn't it? Can't you see a teacher being fired in FL for reading the Ruby Bridges story out loud to her 1st graders? Or another being arrested for having a children's book in the classroom that has a gay character in it?
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A couple of decades ago evangelical MAGAs tried to get Harry Potter banned from schools because witches!
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Sounds right up DeSatan's alley, doesn't it? Can't you see a teacher being fired in FL for reading the Ruby Bridges story out loud to her 1st graders? Or another being arrested for having a children's book in the classroom that has a gay character in it?
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...but not for quoting from the Bible about the sins of the flesh or how homosexuality is an abomination.
 
Cypress said:
I'd be okay with a ban on Mein Kampf or The Turner Diaries in a fourth grade classroom.

But the intentional vagueness of this law, and the fact MAGA's were too lazy and devious to provide a ban list or specific guidance, is obviously intended to cast as wide a net as possible on all American and European literature.
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I'm suspicious of the "media specialists" who are being trained by the government to approve/disapprove of books and other learning materials. What does *that* remind you of?
 
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