“Three weeks and 39 mass shootings. This is America in 2023”

You have yet to establish that a gun IS better for defending your life.

Because statistically speaking, a gun is NOT better for defending your life because your gun could (and probably will) end up in the hands of someone looking to commit a crime.

Most gun deaths are self-inflicted.

Most gun accidents are self-inflicted.

So a gun doesn't make you any safer; in fact, it makes you less safe statistically speaking.

debunked many times.
 
given that 11% of the time, cops shoot innocent bystanders as compared to only 2% of the time for civilians, I agree with you on the disarming cops part.

Yeah, and if cops shouldn't have guns, then neither should anyone else.

Weren't you trained in hand-to-hand combat and other forms of unarmed self-defense?

Why can't you rely on that training to "protect yourself"?
 
debunked many times.

Never once has it been debunked.

It is a FACT that the majority of gun deaths are self-inflicted.

It is ALSO A FACT that the majority of gun accidents are self-inflicted.

So since self-inflicted harm is the primary means of gun deaths and injuries, then statistically speaking, you are less safe to yourself because of that.

If you don't have a gun, then you have no chance of a self-inflicted gun death, nor do you have a chance of a self-inflicted gun accident.

So the statistical probability for someone to die from a self-inflicted gunshot if they don't have a gun is 0.

ZERO PROBABILITY because ZERO weapons.
 
stop being a right wing idiot dutch

We want comprehensive health care for all

Stop fucking lying about it

Your stupid fucking toy is not worth you turning into an asshole liar

You and I can easily agree that preventive medicine is the best medicine and that both vaccines and emergencies should be covered. It's where we go from there that becomes fuzzy.

Should someone who downs a fifth of vodka along with a pack of smokes despite 40 years of doctors saying "You shouldn't do that" be given the same coverage as a pregnant 20 year old...most likely at higher cost?

I'm for common sense healthcare laws....and assisted suicide. :flagsal:
 
Yeah, and if cops shouldn't have guns, then neither should anyone else.
why?

Weren't you trained in hand-to-hand combat and other forms of unarmed self-defense?

Why can't you rely on that training to "protect yourself"?
should the 65 year old grandmother rely on hand to hand? Should the mother with two kids in the shopping mart parking lot rely on hand to hand? What about against more than one attacker? Should I, as an older, but not fat, man rely on hand to hand combat against two or more young people when they have knives? or guns? why do you believe that I, or anyone else, as decent law abiding people must rely on lesser means for our protection?
 
“ Three weeks and 39 mass shootings. This is America in 2023”

“There are about 393 million privately owned firearms in the US. That’s 120 guns for every 100 Americans. 45% of US adults say they live in a household with a gun, according to an October 2022 Gallup survey.“

“Firearm injuries are now the leading cause of death among people younger than 24 in the United States. From 2015 through 2020, there were at least 2,070 unintentional shootings by children under 18 in the US. Those shootings resulted in 765 deaths and 1,366 injuries.”
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/23/politics/mass-shootings-in-2023-what-matters/index.html

“Tragedy upon tragedy’: why 39 US mass shootings already this year is just the start”

“There are more guns in the US than people, according to a 2018 Small Arms Survey report, which found the country had the highest rate of firearm ownership in the world, and more than double the next country on the list, Yemen.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...shootings-already-this-year-is-just-the-start

“2023 Off To Historically Fast Start For Mass Shootings”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nichol...o-historically-fast-start-for-mass-shootings/

”More mass shootings than days of the year: The grim reality of gun violence in the US“.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainer...ifornia-death-toll-gun-violence-12034902.html

And the right keep telling us the solution is even guns are necessary

It's just a part of our culture now. Gun nuts claim mass shootings are too rare to worry about. I think one mass shooting is enough to worry about. Our kids heads are on a swivel in their classrooms. I never had to worry about that when I was a kid. It's not right but no one, not even most Democrats are brave enough to take on the gun lobby or the gun nuts.
 
Because it is so miniscule, it doesn't even fall within a margin of error.

The number of people killed by criminals with guns is nothing compared to the number of people who kill themselves with guns.

you are delusional. stop ignoring the reality of inner city crime.
 
Never once has it been debunked.

It is a FACT that the majority of gun deaths are self-inflicted.

It is ALSO A FACT that the majority of gun accidents are self-inflicted.

So since self-inflicted harm is the primary means of gun deaths and injuries, then statistically speaking, you are less safe to yourself because of that.

If you don't have a gun, then you have no chance of a self-inflicted gun death, nor do you have a chance of a self-inflicted gun accident.

So the statistical probability for someone to die from a self-inflicted gunshot if they don't have a gun is 0.

ZERO PROBABILITY because ZERO weapons.

your facts are wrong. not sure where you pulled them from.
 
Fentanyl is killing 100,000 young Americans each year. White libs don't give a fuck.

All the white lib nazi scum want to do is make it illegal for law abiding Black Americans to own guns.


You just pull garbage out of your ass, twumptard.
 
You and I can easily agree that preventive medicine is the best medicine and that both vaccines and emergencies should be covered. It's where we go from there that becomes fuzzy.

Should someone who downs a fifth of vodka along with a pack of smokes despite 40 years of doctors saying "You shouldn't do that" be given the same coverage as a pregnant 20 year old...most likely at higher cost?

I'm for common sense healthcare laws....and assisted suicide. :flagsal:

All people all care


Anything else is evil
 
So which one of us opposes the solutions to these problems, you or me?

You.

So since you oppose the solutions, how can you possibly convince anyone that you give a sincere shit about them?

Let's say you are 100% correct, LV. What do you win? Do you think lying about me convinces others your way is the only way?

Which do you prefer: the illusion of being correct or leaving behind a positive, lasting change, no matter how miniscule?

Banning things is not the path to freedom. It doesn't matter to me which side does it, it's still wrong.
 
All people all care


Anything else is evil

That should be the ultimate goal.

IMO it can't be attained without the effective equivalents of Mr. Fusion and a Star Trek Replicator. Anything short of such tech is simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.
 
Should the mother with two kids in the shopping mart parking lot rely on hand to hand?

What good is a gun on the hands of that mother if she doesn't see the criminal sneaking up behind her?

Like, this is such an easy thing to dismiss because humans don't have eyes in the back of their head.
 
Because guns are killing tons of innocent people and you don't want to do anything about it.

You've already agreed most "gun violence" are suicides. How can a suicide be "killing tons of innocent people"? The majority of other gun deaths are domestic disputes where only the cops are innocent bystanders.
 
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