“Three weeks and 39 mass shootings. This is America in 2023”

Dutch Uncle said:
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Proof Democrats don't give a fuck about 45,000 annual suicides, 1.2M attempted suicides and 100,000 annual drug deaths...not to mention the 10,000+ annual fatal alcohol-related auto fatalities. They only care about banning guns.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/202205.htm

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/car-insurance/drunk-driving-statistics/
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stop being a right wing idiot dutch

We want comprehensive health care for all


Stop fucking lying about it


Your stupid fucking toy is not worth you turning into an asshole liar
 
SmarterthanYou said:
i'll address that after. For now, please answer the question I posed.
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“what has been the deciding factor between the perpetrator and the victim?”

The shooter had a gun, a gun capable of killing many people in seconds, and if you are going to go with the victims didn’t have a gun you don’t know that, for all we know, based on the statistics, half of them had guns
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Mental health care programs are just asking for fraud. Anyone can say "i'm said and i want $4,000 a month for the rest of my life." Millions of non-white americans are doing that as i type.
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They can say that now idiot

Do they get 4,000 a month?


Your idiocy is for idiots

Not for us thinking humans with a functioning brain unlike you
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
In those 3 weeks 350 americans were killed on the highways by criminal drivers and their assault vehicles like the 180 mph corvette Child Molester in Chief Biden loves.
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How many times does the difference between autos and guns have to be explained to you

At it’s core, autos aren’t designed to kill people, their primary purpose isn’t to kill, guns are
 
PostmodernProphet said:
yes it does.....look where the 39 mass shootings occurred......how many occurred in cities not run by demmycrats?......none.....

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
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Did you look at the gun homicide by state graphic I linked to?

In fact the Blue States are by and large lower rates of gun violence it appears. So just finding one or two cases where a mass shooting happened in a Blue state doesn't change the overall statistics.

And could you please stop calling people you disagree with "cunts"?
 
The results of the right wing idiots way of doing things is being realized


Murder everyfuckingwhere


Time to admit is was dumb as fuck to try


It’s over assholes


The PEOPLE have had it with your ideas massive failure


Eat shit
 
archives said:
“what has been the deciding factor between the perpetrator and the victim?”

The shooter had a gun, a gun capable of killing many people in seconds, and if you are going to go with the victims didn’t have a gun you don’t know that, for all we know, based on the statistics, half of them had guns
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if the victims had guns, they would have shot back and THAT would have made the news. The medias anti gun narrative and agenda would have made loud and clear that people with guns could not defend themselves.

and where did you get that idiot statistic from? did it take in to account gun free zones, or permit requirements? anything?

the deciding factor is that the victims were unarmed, walking about their daily life in ignorance believing that they don't need a gun in society.

Again, in a shooting scenario, people call someone with a gun to come save them.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
IMO, it's untreated mental illness. Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans care to address the increasing lack of mental health care in America. They only want to ban shit and assert more control over the US population.

https://www.mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america
2023 Key Findings
  • In 2019-2020, 20.78% of adults were experiencing a mental illness. That is equivalent to over 50 million Americans.
  • The vast majority of individuals with a substance use disorder in the U.S. are not receiving treatment. 15.35% of adults had a substance use disorder in the past year. Of them, 93.5% did not receive any form of treatment.
  • Millions of adults in the U.S. experience serious thoughts of suicide, with the highest rate among multiracial individuals. The percentage of adults reporting serious thoughts of suicide is 4.84%, totaling over 12.1 million individuals. 11% of adults who identified with two or more races reported serious thoughts of suicide in 2020 – 6% higher than the average among all adults.
  • Over 1 in 10 youth in the U.S. are experiencing depression that is severely impairing their ability to function at school or work, at home, with family, or in their social life. 16.39% of youth (age 12-17) report suffering from at least one major depressive episode (MDE) in the past year. 11.5% of youth (over 2.7 million youth) are experiencing severe major depression.
  • Over half (54.7%) of adults with a mental illness do not receive treatment, totaling over 28 million individuals. Even in Montana (ranked #1), over 4 in 10 adults with a mental illness did not receive care.
  • Almost a third (28.2%) of all adults with a mental illness reported that they were not able to receive the treatment they needed. 42% of adults with AMI reported they were unable to receive necessary care because they could not afford it.
  • 10.8% (over 5.5 million) of adults with a mental illness are uninsured. Hispanic adults with AMI were least likely to have health insurance, with 19% reporting they were not covered by insurance.
  • 6.34% of youth in the U.S. reported a substance use disorder in the past year. That is equivalent to over 1.5 million youth in the U.S. who meet the criteria for an illicit drug or alcohol use disorder.
  • 22.87% of adults who report experiencing 14 or more mentally unhealthy days each month were not able to see a doctor due to costs. In Georgia (ranked 51), over one-third of adults experiencing frequent mental distress are unable to afford a doctor’s visit.
  • 59.8% of youth with major depression do not receive any mental health treatment. Asian youth with major depression were least likely to receive specialty mental health care, with 78% reporting they did not receive mental health services in the past year. In South Carolina, the lowest ranking state, nearly 8 in 10 youth with depression do not receive care.
  • Nationally, only 28% of youth with severe depression receive some consistent treatment (7-25+ visits in a year). Most (57.3%) youth with severe depression do not receive any care.
  • Nationally, 1 in 10 youth who are covered under private insurance do not have coverage for mental or emotional difficulties – totaling over 1.2 million youth. In Arkansas (ranked 51), nearly one-quarter of youth with private insurance do not have coverage for mental health care.
  • Only .718 percent of students are identified with emotional disturbance for an individualized education program (IEP). IEPs, with sufficient resources for schools and teachers, are critical for ensuring that youth with disabilities can receive the individualized services, supports, and accommodations to succeed in a school setting.
  • In the U.S., there are an estimated 350 individuals for every one mental health provider. However, these figures may actually be an overestimate of active mental health professionals, as it may include providers who are no longer practicing or accepting new patients..
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There exist an ocean of research indicating mental illness is not a leading cause of gun violence, in fact, where it is is usually with suicide:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4211925/
https://namica.org/advocacy/crimina...e-truth-about-mental-health-and-gun-violence/
https://efsgv.org/learn/learn-more-about-gun-violence/mental-illness-and-gun-violence/
https://www.mhanational.org/gun-deaths-violence-and-mental-health
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-p...tal-illness-risk-factor-for-gun-violence.html
https://psychnews.psychiatryonline.org/doi/full/10.1176/appi.pn.2021.7.23

No one can predict who the next shooter will be, focusing on the mentally ill hoping to prevent gun violence won’t lead to solving this problem, in fact, like “prayers and condolences,” it is a gun advocate deflection off of the real problem
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
People do more killing with cars than guns
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You sure about that?

Cuz last year, more people died from guns than from cars...

Also, the number of people who died in car wrecks has been cut in half since 1980, and the reason is because Congress passed a whole shitload of safety regulations, and states passed seat belt laws.

The number of people who died from guns has remained about the same since 1980.
 
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