Another insane person with aa assault weapon.

The results were 48 to 50 Cruz. Ted only won by a couple of hundred thousand votes. Had it been anyone with a pulse runnign against Cruz we'd have a Democratic senator in TX right now.
Okay, you keep on believing! The fact Texas votes red is why no one runs. It’s a waste of funds, but at least Beto tried and unlike you, I thought he was a good candidate. I voted for him in both his attempts.
 
How do you come up with the theory that Constitutionally ONLY incarceration or commitment removes a right? I am open minded but what is that based on?
despite the whole 'no right is absolute' argument, rights are absolute. The founders weren't dumb, though, and they KNEW that there are times when some people do not deserve to exercise their rights, thus they created part of the 5th Amendment.
"nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

It is currently common practice that rights are removed short of incarceration. What about home detention or halfway houses? People out on Parole?
These are special circumstances where the terms are proposed to the 'defendant' and they are free to choose that option with the restrictions, or not. If not, they they stay incarcerated.
 
Poor anchovies,

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When a really stupid meme is required, you are up to the job. We want to make America live up to its promise. You are happy with mass shootings and killings every day. Can you understand why we do not approve of murder in the streets?
 
despite the whole 'no right is absolute' argument, rights are absolute. The founders weren't dumb, though, and they KNEW that there are times when some people do not deserve to exercise their rights, thus they created part of the 5th Amendment.
"nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"


These are special circumstances where the terms are proposed to the 'defendant' and they are free to choose that option with the restrictions, or not. If not, they they stay incarcerated.

Big government is what is needed in the 3rd largest country on the planet with 350 million people.
 
Okay, you keep on believing! The fact Texas votes red is why no one runs. It’s a waste of funds, but at least Beto tried and unlike you, I thought he was a good candidate. I voted for him in both his attempts.

The point being that even a nutjob like Beto almost beat Abbott. A saner Democrat candidate stands a better chance of taking down the corrupt Republican control of Texas.

FWIW, I liked Ann Richards.

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You cannot fix people with mental problems. At least in most cases. You can take away guns.
I have no doubt you believe that is true. It would explain why Democrats don't give a shit about the 45,000+ annual suicides in America or the 1.2M attempted suicides because "you cannot fix people with mental problems".

The easy solution is to take away freedoms from Americans and impose an all powerful authoritarian state because they know what's best for Americans. The harder solution is to find answers while simultaneously preserving freedom for all.

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When a really stupid meme is required, you are up to the job. We want to make America live up to its promise. You are happy with mass shootings and killings every day. Can you understand why we do not approve of murder in the streets?

Thanks, nordy but what I really do approve of is locking up the Soros DAs that release these little miscreants hours after they have committed a crime. In my world, commit a crime with a gun and it's a mandatory five years, and then, the trial proceeds.
 
despite the whole 'no right is absolute' argument, rights are absolute. The founders weren't dumb, though, and they KNEW that there are times when some people do not deserve to exercise their rights, thus they created part of the 5th Amendment.
"nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"


These are special circumstances where the terms are proposed to the 'defendant' and they are free to choose that option with the restrictions, or not. If not, they they stay incarcerated.

I’m not sure I understand the connection to the requirement that a person be incarcerated in order to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Due process does not require incarceration. Someone’s home, for example, can be taken from them after due process, without them being incarcerated or committed. I understand it’s your opinion, but do you have any pieces for that being a constitutional requirement?
 
I’m not sure I understand the connection to the requirement that a person be incarcerated in order to be prohibited from possessing a firearm. Due process does not require incarceration. Someone’s home, for example, can be taken from them after due process, without them being incarcerated or committed. I understand it’s your opinion, but do you have any pieces for that being a constitutional requirement?

incarceration presumes due process has been attended to.
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at least thats the theory of the system.
 
Okay, you keep on believing! The fact Texas votes red is why no one runs. It’s a waste of funds, but at least Beto tried and unlike you, I thought he was a good candidate. I voted for him in both his attempts.

I'm sorry my opinion offends you, Tiger. Thanks for the "groan" as well, asshole. Grow the fuck up.
 
incarceration presumes due process has been attended to.
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at least thats the theory of the system.

So does the taking of property. Incarceration is not the only result of Due Process. Its "Life, Liberty or property." I am not following your logic...
 
So does the taking of property. Incarceration is not the only result of Due Process. Its "Life, Liberty or property." I am not following your logic...

does civil asset forfeiture presume due process?

Civil forfeiture in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture, [1] is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from people who are suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing.
 
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does civil asset forfeiture presume due process?

Civil forfeiture in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States
Civil forfeiture in the United States, also called civil asset forfeiture or civil judicial forfeiture, [1] is a process in which law enforcement officers take assets from people who are suspected of involvement with crime or illegal activity without necessarily charging the owners with wrongdoing.

It does, read the 5th. Are you saying the only thing the Constitution requires 5th Amendment Due Process for is incarceration?

Due Process is not only for wrongdoing. If they want to take your property, regardless of the reason, you have a right to due process.
 
It does, read the 5th. Are you saying the only thing the Constitution requires 5th Amendment Due Process for is incarceration?

Due Process is not only for wrongdoing. If they want to take your property, regardless of the reason, you have a right to due process.

no it doesn't, idiot.

there's no due process in civil asset forfeiture.


you're too ignorant to converse with, actually.
 
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