Biden discovery wont bail Trump out

anonymoose said:
You forgot to post the link.
I read this earlier so here it is, with the title:

There’s one winner in the Biden documents discovery: Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/14/biden-documents-discovery-donald-trump-winner


lol
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Despite superficial similarities, the two cases are like chalk and cheese. In January last year the National Archives retrieved 15 boxes of documents from Trump’s home, telling justice department officials they contained “a lot” of classified material.

In August, after prolonged resistance from Trump’s associates to requests and even a justice department subpoena, FBI agents took about 33 boxes and containers of 11,000 documents from Mar-a-Lago, including roughly 100 with classification markings found in a storage room and an office. The FBI warrant showed it was investigating crimes including the wilful retention of national defence information and efforts to obstruct a federal investigation.
 
ExpressLane said:
Oh really? How about a quote from Trump where he said exactly that.





BTW Biden only returned the stolen documents when he got caught with them.
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Nope. Joe returned them back in November right when they were found before anyone knew. Boy, lying comes so easy to you MAGA fucks.

Hey, you got that proof about Hunter and Joe's crimes? Still waiting.
 
floridafan said:
Despite superficial similarities, the two cases are like chalk and cheese. In January last year the National Archives retrieved 15 boxes of documents from Trump’s home, telling justice department officials they contained “a lot” of classified material.

In August, after prolonged resistance from Trump’s associates to requests and even a justice department subpoena, FBI agents took about 33 boxes and containers of 11,000 documents from Mar-a-Lago, including roughly 100 with classification markings found in a storage room and an office. The FBI warrant showed it was investigating crimes including the wilful retention of national defence information and efforts to obstruct a federal investigation.
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From the same article:

It was a rare setback for an administration that promised to be transparent and scandal-free. It also complicated an investigation into Trump over an ostensibly similar matter.
Although the situations are very different, the nuances and subtleties are likely to be lost in the court of public opinion.

“This may be pure sloppiness on Biden’s part or the Biden team’s part but it doesn’t matter,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “In the public mind, now they will say, ‘Well, a pox on both your houses. You’re both guilty. Shame on you both.’ It’s over.”

the White House refused to disclose the content and exact number of the Biden records, how they arrived at his thinktank and home , why they stayed there and why the administration waited more than two months to acknowledge their discovery.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/14/biden-documents-discovery-donald-trump-winner

I said this earlier. Either they both should be shot for treason or they both slide.
I predict they both slide.
 
LurchAddams said:
Nope. Joe returned them back in November right when they were found before anyone knew. Boy, lying comes so easy to you MAGA fucks.

Hey, you got that proof about Hunter and Joe's crimes? Still waiting.
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Biden previously accused Trump of “irresponsible” behaviour, words that are now being thrown back in his face. Suggestions that the misplacing of the documents was a mere oversight or act of forgetfulness play into the hurtful Republican narrative of a senile, incompetent 80-year-old president.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-could-deal-a-severe-blow-to-joe-bidens-hopes
 
anonymoose said:
From the same article:

It was a rare setback for an administration that promised to be transparent and scandal-free. It also complicated an investigation into Trump over an ostensibly similar matter.
Although the situations are very different, the nuances and subtleties are likely to be lost in the court of public opinion.

“This may be pure sloppiness on Biden’s part or the Biden team’s part but it doesn’t matter,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “In the public mind, now they will say, ‘Well, a pox on both your houses. You’re both guilty. Shame on you both.’ It’s over.”

the White House refused to disclose the content and exact number of the Biden records, how they arrived at his thinktank and home , why they stayed there and why the administration waited more than two months to acknowledge their discovery.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/14/biden-documents-discovery-donald-trump-winner

I said this earlier. Either they both should be shot for treason or they both slide.
I predict they both slide.
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This has nothing to do with public opinion, only intent. There trump loses big time.
 
Into the Night said:
They certainly are.

He didn't.

Trump did not lie about having documents. Indeed, the federal government approved the storage facility where documents were kept and approved the documents he kept.

Trump was able to declassify any document at will as President.

He didn't. That's a lie.

MAGA isn't a person. The FBI has been converted into a Gestapo like organization.

MAGA isn't a person.

If Biden wants to attack Trump for 'keeping secret documents', he had better clean his own houses first! Oh...he didn't!
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Full of shit fallacy.

You are dismissed, twumptard.
 
anonymoose said:
Biden previously accused Trump of “irresponsible” behaviour, words that are now being thrown back in his face. Suggestions that the misplacing of the documents was a mere oversight or act of forgetfulness play into the hurtful Republican narrative of a senile, incompetent 80-year-old president.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-could-deal-a-severe-blow-to-joe-bidens-hopes
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And that's another good point. Biden is cooperating fully with the investigation. twump continues to lie, like claiming the FBI planted his stolen documents. Also, it took an FBI raid to get twump's stolen docs back. Biden just gave them back without being asked.

You just don't want to accept these obvious facts. Doesn't bother me. Your problem.
 
LurchAddams said:
And that's another good point. Biden is cooperating fully with the investigation. twump continues to lie, like claiming the FBI planted his stolen documents. Also, it took an FBI raid to get twump's stolen docs back. Biden just gave them back without being asked.

You just don't want to accept these obvious facts. Doesn't bother me. Your problem.
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I said this earlier.
At best it’s a nothing burger except it makes Joe damaged goods. It plays into the narrative that Joe is a senile doddering old fool.
At worst, if it turns out Hunter paid him $50,000/mo. to rent his house, he’s got major problems.
At this point it’s too early for anyone to know.
 
anonymoose said:
I said this earlier.
At best it’s a nothing burger except it makes Joe damaged goods.
At worst, if it turns out he paid Hunter $50,000/mo. to rent his house, he’s got major problems.
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LOL - and now you're adding another myth about "Hunter House Rental". The MAGA propaganda just never ends :)
 
floridafan said:
Despite superficial similarities, the two cases are like chalk and cheese. In January last year the National Archives retrieved 15 boxes of documents from Trump’s home,
telling justice department officials they contained “a lot” of classified material.

In August, after prolonged resistance from Trump’s associates to requests and even a justice department subpoena, FBI agents took about 33 boxes and containers of 11,000 documents from Mar-a-Lago, including roughly 100 with classification markings found in a storage room and an office. The FBI warrant showed it was investigating crimes including the wilful retention of national defence information and efforts to obstruct a federal investigation.
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Fiction.
 
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