Tesla Model 3 named winner in KBB’s 5-Year Cost to Own Awards 2022. MAGA wets panties

T. A. Gardner said:
God, you are such an idiot. Do you really think I didn't already have an answer for that?

(OFFICIAL) Global EV sales accelerating, but government help needed - IEA
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...a has,down from 20% of total spending in 2015.



Biden pushes for electric vehicles to make up half of U.S. auto sales by 2030
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/05/bid...percent-or-more-of-us-auto-sales-by-2030.html

Policies to promote electric vehicle deployment
https://www.iea.org/reports/global-ev-outlook-2021/policies-to-promote-electric-vehicle-deployment



How much more obvious that it is government driven than this...?

California bans the sale of new gas-powered cars by 2035
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/25/california-bans-the-sale-of-new-gas-powered-cars-by-2035.html

Government is driving the shift to EV's. It isn't market driven in the least. If government wasn't putting in regulations and laws that grossly favor EV's, wasn't heavily subsidizing the production of them, and was outright banning the alternatives, EV's would have remained a niche market and nothing else.

What's going to be really funny is when they succeed and the result has little or no effect on CO2 in the atmosphere. I wonder what their next scam to fuck us all over will be?
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Government is driving the shift to EV's. It isn't market driven in the least.

Is the government forcing car manufacturers to make EVs? No. They're making EVs because they're better cars than ICE cars. Easier to manufacture, easier to maintain, cheaper to run.
Post all the articles you want. You're wasting your time. Nothing will stop the surge of EV sales worldwide. You lose.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Government didn't force the Internet on consumers. They recognized the value of it and bought in willingly to something useful on their own. EV's aren't very useful, and most people don't want one. The only way they are making inroads into the market--AS I HAVE PROVEN--is by government forcing them down people's throats.

Like wind and solar that don't work, EV's are another greentard idea of the radical Left that doesn't do what they claim it should. The reason greentards want EV's is to reduce CO2 in the atmosphere. My bet? If 100% of all motor vehicles became zero CO2 emission types it would have no discernible impact on worldwide CO2 in the atmosphere.

Then, just like the CFC ban and the hole in the ozone layer that the same sort of greentards are telling us we have to go zero emissions on vehicles, they will be proven dead flat wrong and what will follow will be silence while they figure out a new scam to fuck society over with on the environment.
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You haven't proven shit, boy. You posted a few articles. Correlation doesn't prove causation, boy.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
You haven't proven shit, boy. You posted a few articles. Correlation doesn't prove causation, boy.
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Nordberg said:
Evs are improving fast. The future for America looks much better. They are already far better than ICEs.
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Electric vehicle sales hit a tipping point in 2022
1:52 PM EST December 27, 2022
Next time you're circling a full parking lot, try to remember what you saw in it just a couple of years ago. Things are different, now. There are a lot more electric vehicles and they aren't just Teslas anymore, either.
"It's not your eyes tricking you," said Matt Degen, an editor at Cox Automotive, a company that owns a number of auto-related websites and firms. "For the longest time, the majority of the EVs on the road were Teslas, and they still get the lion's share of sales, but they're now hardly the only game in town."
Electric vehicles accounted for 5.6% of all new vehicles sold last year, according to Kelley Blue Book. That may not sound like a lot, but as recently as 2019 that figure was just 1.4%. Based on the experience in other global markets -- particularly Norway -- 5% market share seems to be an important tipping point for wider adoption, said BloombergNEF researcher Corey Cantor. Other markets, such as China and Europe overall, have shown similar trends, according to data provided by BloombergNEF. Bloomberg includes plug-in hybrids in its count of "electric vehicles," but a large majority are purely battery-powered models.
It's unclear exactly why 5% seems to mark the point where EV sales really take off. It could be that it marks the level at which something begins to seem normal. The overall US market share for Hyundai, for example, is about the same as the market share for electric vehicles, according to Cox Automotive, and buying a Hyundai doesn't seem like anything weird or unusual. It's getting to be the same for electric vehicles: It's no longer uncommon to see them on the roads which makes it easier to consider getting one.
Now, electric vehicles just need to become easier to buy.
"I think now the demand is definitely there," said Cantor. "It's just been more a supply side problem of automakers not being able to ship enough."
 
cawacko said:
You talk about politics making for interesting bedfellows. You have Elon Musk who has been called a Nazi, a supporter of white supremacy, runs a racist company (Tesla) and could be responsible for the end of our democracy but he makes a car that liberals like and conservatives (supposedly) don't.
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It's called Irony! :laugh:
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Electric vehicle sales hit a tipping point in 2022
1:52 PM EST December 27, 2022
Next time you're circling a full parking lot, try to remember what you saw in it just a couple of years ago. Things are different, now. There are a lot more electric vehicles and they aren't just Teslas anymore, either.
"It's not your eyes tricking you," said Matt Degen, an editor at Cox Automotive, a company that owns a number of auto-related websites and firms. "For the longest time, the majority of the EVs on the road were Teslas, and they still get the lion's share of sales, but they're now hardly the only game in town."
Electric vehicles accounted for 5.6% of all new vehicles sold last year, according to Kelley Blue Book. That may not sound like a lot, but as recently as 2019 that figure was just 1.4%. Based on the experience in other global markets -- particularly Norway -- 5% market share seems to be an important tipping point for wider adoption, said BloombergNEF researcher Corey Cantor. Other markets, such as China and Europe overall, have shown similar trends, according to data provided by BloombergNEF. Bloomberg includes plug-in hybrids in its count of "electric vehicles," but a large majority are purely battery-powered models.
It's unclear exactly why 5% seems to mark the point where EV sales really take off. It could be that it marks the level at which something begins to seem normal. The overall US market share for Hyundai, for example, is about the same as the market share for electric vehicles, according to Cox Automotive, and buying a Hyundai doesn't seem like anything weird or unusual. It's getting to be the same for electric vehicles: It's no longer uncommon to see them on the roads which makes it easier to consider getting one.
Now, electric vehicles just need to become easier to buy.
"I think now the demand is definitely there," said Cantor. "It's just been more a supply side problem of automakers not being able to ship enough."
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5% an important tipping point....lol.

so dumb.
 
Lionfish said:
A Tesla owner shared TikTok videos about the impacts of cold weather on his car showing he can't open the door, the frunk, or even charge it

https://www.tiktok.com/@ddcustomz
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OMG Lionfuck is trolling TikTok to score points on EV's. Will wonders never cease?

(It's also an indicator that Lionfish isn't old enough to own a car. It is NOT uncommon to have difficulty opening iced over doors in the cold. EVEN IF IT WASN'T AN EV. Advice to Lionfish: wait until mommy and daddy buy you your first car. Then tell us how much you love it).
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Government is driving the shift to EV's. It isn't market driven in the least.

Is the government forcing car manufacturers to make EVs?
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For all intents, yes. California, now joined by several other states have decreed an end to allowing sales of non-zero emission vehicles in a few years. That is forcing--FORCING--manufacturers to switch production to EV's as there are few alternatives that meet that decree.


No. They're making EVs because they're better cars than ICE cars. Easier to manufacture, easier to maintain, cheaper to run.
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This isn't true either. Most auto manufacturers are set up to build ICE vehicles. Switching to EV's means spending billions on new production lines and scrapping current ones. EV's also aren't "cheaper to run" nor are they easy to maintain. If something went wrong with your POS EV, could you diagnose and fix the problem? I can do that with an ICE vehicle for the most part.

Post all the articles you want. You're wasting your time. Nothing will stop the surge of EV sales worldwide. You lose.
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Yes, yes, you are in implacable moron / retard and want to believe in unicorns. Go ahead...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I can do that with an ICE vehicle for the most part.
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That's not surprising that an auto mechanic can diagnose issues with an ICE vehicle.

But if you worked at an actual garage you'd still have a lot more advanced equipment and computerized materials you don't have at your trailer.

As for "maintenance", well I can tell you that it IS much less expensive. I've had my Chevy Bolt for about 3 years now and only have to go to the shop once every few months to have the tires checked and the windshield wiper fluid topped off. No oil changes necessary.

And, I can't stress this enough, I haven't bought gas for about 3 years now. I drive FOR FREE (I have solar on my house).

So at the end of the day I'm still coming out ahead. No fuel costs, very little maintenance cost and a good experience overall.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
For all intents, yes. California, now joined by several other states have decreed an end to allowing sales of non-zero emission vehicles in a few years. That is forcing--FORCING--manufacturers to switch production to EV's as there are few alternatives that meet that decree.

This isn't true either. Most auto manufacturers are set up to build ICE vehicles. Switching to EV's means spending billions on new production lines and scrapping current ones. EV's also aren't "cheaper to run" nor are they easy to maintain. If something went wrong with your POS EV, could you diagnose and fix the problem? I can do that with an ICE vehicle for the most part.

Yes, yes, you are in implacable moron / retard and want to believe in unicorns. Go ahead...
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Whine all you want about the soaring EV sales trends. There's nothing you can do about their success. And it's going to continue, despite your whining.

Hyundai, Kia achieve record November US sales led by rising IONIQ5, EV6 demand

Kia announced Thursday it achieved its strongest November US sales month on record as demand for its electric vehicles pushed the automaker to new heights. Meanwhile, parent company Hyundai also surpassed its previous US November sales record with several leading EV models enticing buyers, such as the award-winning IONIQ5 and Kona EV.
After announcing plans to invest $7.4 billion to scale its US electric vehicle program in May 2021, the Hyundai Motor Group is seeing the fruit of its labor.
The Hyundai Motor Group, including Kia and Genesis, are having their best year in the US as demand for their new electric vehicles is driving record sales. Hyundai is solidifying its place in the future of the US auto industry as it rapidly executes its EV strategy, including building out its local sourcing and assembly capabilities.

BMW electric sales double YOY, soaring EV demand and ‘compelling products’ boost Q3 earnings beat

Despite lingering supply chain bottlenecks disrupting the global auto industry, the BMW Group achieved record revenue in Q3 as sales and demand for its electric vehicles continue propelling the German luxury automaker forward.
BMW sees rising demand for electric vehicles
“Compelling products are the best answer to a challenging environment,” Oliver Zipse states as the automating group moves into the future of the auto industry.
BMW delivered 128,195 electric vehicles, more than double (+114.8%) from the same period last year. The automaker says it saw rising demand and growing orders for its BMW I3, IX, I4, and Mini Cooper SE.

Electric Vehicle Sales Are Soaring

They look great, have fantastic acceleration, and cut down on your gas costs. What's not to love?

Electric vehicle sales are soaring, and the only problem at the moment is that automakers are struggling to keep up with growing consumer demand.

The surge in electric vehicle sales is the direct result of consumers learning about EVs and their benefits and an increase in manufacturers offering EVs, allowing consumers many more choices.

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Perry Phimosis said:
That's not surprising that an auto mechanic can diagnose issues with an ICE vehicle.

But if you worked at an actual garage you'd still have a lot more advanced equipment and computerized materials you don't have at your trailer.

As for "maintenance", well I can tell you that it IS much less expensive. I've had my Chevy Bolt for about 3 years now and only have to go to the shop once every few months to have the tires checked and the windshield wiper fluid topped off. No oil changes necessary.

And, I can't stress this enough, I haven't bought gas for about 3 years now. I drive FOR FREE (I have solar on my house).

So at the end of the day I'm still coming out ahead. No fuel costs, very little maintenance cost and a good experience overall.
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Congrats on your EV, Perry. I have one as well and love it.
I like being able to charge in my garage. Convenient as hell. And when gas prices were rising last Summer, I laughed at all the ICE cars buying gas.
I've had my Tesla Model Y for almost two years and, like you, all I've done is add windshield washer fluid. I also like the regenerative braking feature. It's sweet being able to stop the car by just releasing the accelerator. I rarely use my brake which means less maintenance on brake pads and fluid.

No wonder more people are buying EVs in record numbers.

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Geeko Sportivo said:
Oh, come on, don't add to or play into all the silliness already here. Help me stop some of the madness around here, Please! I'm counting on you!
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Joe Crapitalist feels "superior" while driving a car that uses Chinese slave labor and child labor to build the batteries that store energy that 61% comes from fossil fuels. It is madness and I am trying to stop it for you.
 
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