The Merchant of Death

ExpressLane said:
The agents that caught him still think he is a very dangerous man. I'll take their opinion over yours.


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He is rich he knows hows international arms trafficking works and he has friends in high places in Russia and access to the internet. He has the resources to hire people to help him.
 
ExpressLane said:
She refused to be present when the national anthem was played. She broke other countries' laws so she can satisfy her drug habit. That drug habit got a man freed that supplied terrorists with the means to murder others and plotted to kill American soldiers.
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There is no evidence that she abuses drugs, at all.

She refused to "present" for the national anthem? It's called protesting, to try to improve your country. That's loving your country - not hating it.

Trump sat and watched w/ glee as insurrectionists stormed our Capitol, for 3 hours. Does he hate America?
 
Earl said:
She was arrested for illegal drugs and admitted it.

She refused to stand for the National Anthem.

Yes, homosexuality is perversion, an abomination per God...and me.
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How is the 1st point evidence that she abuses drugs?

Refusing to stand for the anthem was a protest, to try to improve America. People who protest usually love their country, which is why they are trying to effect change. Trump inspired an insurrection and always says America isn't great. So I assume you think he hates America also?

God has said nothing about homosexuality, and has in fact created people who are homosexuals. I thought you guys were all "hate the sin, love the sinner?" Total hypocrisy.
 
BartenderElite said:
There is no evidence that she abuses drugs, at all.

She refused to "present" for the national anthem? It's called protesting, to try to improve your country. That's loving your country - not hating it.

Trump sat and watched w/ glee as insurrectionists stormed our Capitol, for 3 hours. Does he hate America?
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Her dependence on hashish was so bad that she risked incarceration in a foreign country.

BUT TRUMP!!! :rofl2:

 
Lionfish said:
And Bradley Manning is a hero?
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What point are you trying to make by bringing up Manning? She was imprisoned for seven years as opposed to Whelan's four. Just write to Whelan and tell him to hang tight, trump will pardon him if he gets elected in 2024.
 
ExpressLane said:
She refused to be present when the national anthem was played. She broke other countries' laws so she can satisfy her drug habit. That drug habit got a man freed that supplied terrorists with the means to murder others and plotted to kill American soldiers.
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Medical cannabis, Expressweenie. Facts matter.

Why would a doctor criticize someone who uses a substance to help manage chronic pain?

"Griner’s defense team submitted to the Russian court a letter from a US medical center issuing a permit in Arizona in 2020 for the use of medical cannabis for Griner to treat her chronic pain caused by sports injuries."
 
floridafan said:
Why didn't Trump b ring Whelan home?????????
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Here you go Floridafanny

Trump turned down Viktor Bout-for-Paul Whelan prisoner swap, John Bolton says

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump shot down Russian attempts to trade former Marine Paul Whelan for “Merchant of Death” arms dealer Viktor Bout, former national security adviser John Bolton said Thursday — as Trump ripped his successor for agreeing to send Bout home in exchange for the return of WNBA star Brittney Griner.

Bolton recalled in an interview with CBS that he was in the midst of his 17-month tenure at the White House when Whelan was detained on concocted espionage charges in December 2018.

“The possibility of a Bout-for-Whelan trade existed back then,” said Bolton, 74, “and it wasn’t made, for very good reasons having to deal with Viktor Bout.”....

....“It’s the kind of thing that says to terrorists and rogue states and other malign actors who would consider kidnapping or seizing Americans, that we’re willing to trade almost anything to get Americans back,” he said. “There are other ways to deal with hostage-takers through sanctions and other things, not swaps like this one.”
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https://nypost.com/2022/12/08/trump...ut-for-paul-whelan-prisoner-swap-john-bolton/
 
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christiefan915 said:
Medical cannabis, Expressweenie. Facts matter.

Why would a doctor criticize someone who uses a substance to help manage chronic pain?

"Griner’s defense team submitted to the Russian court a letter from a US medical center issuing a permit in Arizona in 2020 for the use of medical cannabis for Griner to treat her chronic pain caused by sports injuries."
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And you do know that cannabis is still illegal in the US. Any time you cross a state line with hashish it's against Federal law.. And correct me if I'm wrong here but you do have to cross a state line to get from Arizonia to Russia. Facts matter

Because we doctors know LOTS of people claim chronic pain to get drugs when they really don't have chronic pain.
 
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christiefan915 said:
Medical cannabis, Expressweenie. Facts matter.

Why would a doctor criticize someone who uses a substance to help manage chronic pain?

"Griner’s defense team submitted to the Russian court a letter from a US medical center issuing a permit in Arizona in 2020 for the use of medical cannabis for Griner to treat her chronic pain caused by sports injuries."
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Sorry, but that excuse doesn't fly. If it's illegal in Russia it doesn't matter if it's an Rx or not or if she brought it from Alaska, e.g., where it's legal. It's still illegal. It was just stupid for her to bring it there, or any other country where it's illegal. Not only that, but there's plenty of other alternatives for pain medication that she could have used instead, especially when travelling to any foreign country. There are proven NSAID's that are more effective for chronic pain. She just wanted to get high in addition to having pain medication. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Glad she's back though, but boy she sure is dumb for that snafu.
 
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BartenderElite said:
That's your "evidence" that she abuses drugs?

And yeah - I figured you couldn't address your hero's much more egregious actions against our country.
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Yeah that is my evidence . If she wasn't abusing drugs she would have declared it and provided medical documentation of it instead of trying to smuggle it inside of her luggage.
 
anonymoose said:
Sorry, but that excuse doesn't fly. If it's illegal in Russia it doesn't matter if it's an Rx or not or if she brought it from Alaska, e.g., where it's legal. It's still illegal. It was just stupid for her to bring it there, or any other country where it's illegal. Not only that, but there's plenty of other alternatives for pain medication that she could have used instead, especially when travelling to any foreign country. There are proven NSAID's that are more effective for chronic pain. She just wanted to get high in addition to having pain medication. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Glad she's back though, but boy she sure is dumb for that snafu.
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Indeed. One has to wonder how many more deaths will Viktor Bout be responsible for now.
 
BartenderElite said:
There is no evidence that she abuses drugs, at all.

She refused to "present" for the national anthem? It's called protesting, to try to improve your country. That's loving your country - not hating it.

Trump sat and watched w/ glee as insurrectionists stormed our Capitol, for 3 hours. Does he hate America?
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Whereas I agree with movements that bring attention to the heinous problems in this nation, I have to believe that she found a new appreciation for the flag.

When you're sitting in a hole in Russia, you have very little to cling to.
 
Althea said:
None. Not one. His network is gone, and he's returning to a very different nation now that Biden brought Putin to his knees.
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He still knows how international arms sales work. He still has Friends in very high places (Putin). He still has money. He has the internet. He can easily hire people he needs to travel outside of Russia. The agent in charge of his capture thinks he is still dangerous. You are a moron.

 
ExpressLane said:
Yeah that is my evidence . If she wasn't abusing drugs she would have declared it and provided medical documentation of it instead of trying to smuggle it inside of her luggage.
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The bolded is a completely unscientific & unsupported conclusion.

Embarrassing. There is no evidence that she was abusing drugs, whatsoever.
 
BartenderElite said:
The bolded is a completely unscientific & unsupported conclusion.

Embarrassing. There is no evidence that she was abusing drugs, whatsoever.
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So why did she try to smuggle hashish into Russian . And why did she smuggle hashish out of Arizona? Why didn't she opt for a legal solution?
 
ExpressLane said:
So why did she try to smuggle hashish into Russian . And why did she smuggle hashish out of Arizona? Why didn't she opt for a legal solution?
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From the sounds of it, it's something that worked for her insomnia.

To conclude that it means she was "abusing" anything is outlandish. It's a wild accusation, not supported by anything, and certainly not supported by the "logic" you're trying to use. Just admit you're wrong.
 
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