Was slavery really that bad?

tsuke said:
would you rather have been a slave with a white abusive master in America? Or a black tribal kang in Africa? At least the white plantation owner had your cost as something restraining him whereas you were much cheaper in Africa.

Again the people who were sold by the jungle bunnies in Africa werent the top of the social ladder. They were the ones taking the slaves to sell. They were at the very bottom which means they would end up as slaves anyway.
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You think they had a choice? :rofl2:
 
tsuke said:
Ppeople always want more stuff. You get a dollar you want 10. You get 10 you want a 100. By taking the blacks out of Africa the whites gave them a headstart over the slaves that remained in Africa.
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Do you believe whites are superior to blacks?
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
democrat do. For hundreds of years now.
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The Founding Fathers were Democrats???? :rofl2:

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Hawkeye10 said:
Slavery goes back almost certainly many hundreds of thousands of years. We dont know anything about what the conditions were. We can say that at one point almost everyone agreed that slavery is bad and we made an effort to get rid of it. We failed, and it will likely worse as we live in a dark age, and it will likely be a long one.
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You GOD DAMN IGNORANT FUCKING FOOL! Everything about slavery has been documented- IT IS ONLY FOOLS LIKE YOU WHO DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ ABOUT IT!

HAVE A BEER DUDE- Surely you haven't pissed away your daily 12 pack yet!

Or borrow a couple of your wife's Opioids she takes to escape the pain of living with someone like you!
 
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Theywillneverlearn! said:
democrat do. For hundreds of years now.
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Do you, Sailor? Do you think Trump believes whites are superior to blacks? The WSEs?

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/518031-trumps-good-genes-speech-echoes-racial-eugenics/
Trump’s ‘good genes’ speech echoes racial eugenics
Watching President Trump campaign is like watching the time-traveling movie, “Back to the Future.”

In July, when he trailed Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in the polls, Trump borrowed his political message from the racially segregated 1950s by telling white voters that Democrats plan to bring “who knows into your suburbs, so your communities will be unsafe.”

Now, still trailing Biden in the polls, Trump traveled back in his DeLorean a full century to an even darker place. In a speech last week in Bemidji, Minnesota, which was overshadowed by Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death that night, Trump warned his mostly white audience that Biden would flood the state with Somali refugees, whom he disparaged. Then he reminded the audience that the state had been pioneered by strong and hearty people who had braved the wilderness and cold winters to build a better life.

“You have good genes, you know that, right? You have good genes. A lot of it is about the genes, isn’t it, don’t you believe? The racehorse theory? You think we’re so different. You have good genes in Minnesota.”

The fact that Trump said “genes” or “good genes” four times suggests a “dog whistle,” which is defined as coded or suggestive language to obtain support from a particular group of people that, while appearing normal to most, communicates a specific message. So, what can be wrong with “good genes”?

Given the history of eugenics, and the context in which Trump used the phrase “good genes,” a lot. Between the late 1890s and the eve of World War II, pseudoscientists developed the theory of eugenics to address the fears of white elites that immigrants would corrupt the country’s gene pool. (The word eugenics is derived from the Greek root, “eugenes,” namely, good in stock or hereditarily well-endowed with superior qualities.) The eugenicists argued that the undesirables should be cordoned or walled off (sound familiar?) and the superior White Anglo-Saxon Protestants had to reproduce at a faster rate.

If Trump, who reportedly expressed a preference for immigrants from Norway over those from “shithole countries,” (he denies saying that) is promoting eugenics theory, he has distinguished company from that era, including at least two U.S presidents, Theodore Roosevelt and Calvin Coolidge, who did the same. The eugenics movement helped to enact the Immigration Act of 1924, which limited immigration for the next 40 years, especially from Eastern and Southern Europe and Asia.

The phrase “racehorse theory” might be just another Trump non-sequitur. But then again, maybe not. A hundred years ago some eugenicists believed that a careful study of thoroughbred horse breeding would yield findings that could be applied to humans to produce what one eugenicist called “a highly gifted race of men.” According to a Trump biographer, Michael D’Antonio, the Trump family, Donald Trump included, has a “very deep” attraction to eugenics, including the “racehorse theory of human development . . . they believe that there are superior people and that if you put together the genes of a superior woman and a superior man, you get superior offspring.”...
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Dutch Uncle said:
Do you believe whites are superior to blacks?
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I dont want to but im having trouble with all the empirical evidence available in the world. I mean just take Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Two nations side by side with generally the same resources (with Haiti even invading the DR). One had been run exclusively by blacks since its founding and is now one of the biggest shit holes in the world whereas the DR was run by whites longer.

Its just so hard to look at the world now and try to deny the evidence
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You GOD DAMN IGNORANT FUCKING FOOL! Everything about slavery has been documented- IT IS ONLY FOOLS LIKE YOU WHO DIDN'T BOTHER TO READ ABOUT IT!

HAVE A BEER DUDE- Surely you haven't pissed away your daily 12 pack yet!

Or borrow a couple of your wife's Opioids she takes to escape the pain of living with someone like you!
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Did you break a couple of guitar strings? Calm down matey!!
 
AProudLefty said:
"Would you rather be a slave in Africa or in America?"
"Gee I don't know.... neither?"
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Like someone said slaves dont get a choice. If you were in that state already I would say America is preferable to the dark continent.

I think our education has been too disneyfied. We all think Jigaboos just played and danced in the jungle with the animals before the white man came when in reality they were more violent towards each other than the whites ever were to them. Hell you can see it now when its a huge national story when a white is violent to a black but sort of just expected behavior when two blacks have a nigger moment and end up killing each other.
 
tsuke said:
Like someone said slaves dont get a choice. If you were in that state already I would say America is preferable to the dark continent.
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Again, they had no choice. And there was no guarantee that the slaves would be treated well or better.

I think our education has been too disneyfied. We all think Jigaboos just played and danced in the jungle with the animals before the white man came when in reality they were more violent towards each other than the whites ever were to them. Hell you can see it now when its a huge national story when a white is violent to a black but sort of just expected behavior when two blacks have a nigger moment and end up killing each other.
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It was a racist propaganda designed to give them a reason to treat them less than a person.
 
tsuke said:
I dont want to but im having trouble with all the empirical evidence available in the world. I mean just take Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Two nations side by side with generally the same resources (with Haiti even invading the DR). One had been run exclusively by blacks since its founding and is now one of the biggest shit holes in the world whereas the DR was run by whites longer.

Its just so hard to look at the world now and try to deny the evidence
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It's a yes or no question. Am I reading your paragraph correctly to mean you believe Whites are genetically superior to Blacks?

Do you understand that modern geneticists have determined that there's no such thing as "race"? That regional differences are minor? That there's more variation within regional groups than outside of them?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8604262/
As a taxonomic term, race defines an informal subdivision of subspecies which are physically and genetically different. However, the species Homo sapiens cannot be further subdivided into subspecies which are physically and genetically different. Thus, for H.sapiens, the species and subspecies are the same—H.sapiens sapiens (Box 1). In 2003, Phase 1 of the Human Genome Project (HGP) demonstrated that humans populating the earth today are on average 99.9% identical at the DNA level, there is no genetic basis for race, and there is more genetic variation within a race than between them
 
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