Was slavery really that bad?

There was that, typically of Africans captured in battle between tribes or as punishment for crimes, as there was slave dealing of whites in Europe and the Ancient world. The American African slave trade relied as well on slave ships with raiding parties that went ashore to make captures. For the thousands of white slaves Americans acquired in England, we bought them.

they were all bought by that point in time.......slavery was a profitable business for centuries.......the white slaves you are referring to were sent to penal colonies in Georgia, as well as Australia as "punishment" for crimes real or imagined because the British trading companies needed cheap labor.......
 
well my point was that it would have been much more preferable to be a slave in America rather than in Africa as the value add cost of bringing you from Africa to America meant your master valued you more due to your increased cost.

You're essentially arguing for open borders. :rofl2:
 
then the question shouldn't have been "was slavery really that bad" (which was a really, really stupid question) but "which form of slavery is better; abusive or non abusive?" (still would have been a really, really stupid question).......

First rational post I have ever seen from you.
 
There are hundreds of millions of Americans right now today that are slaves of their own making. Debt slaves, slaves to drugs ,booze, and alcohol. Slaves to silly wokeness. Whole lotta slaves in this country right now. Break those chains you put on yourself before its too late.

Yep. It isn't too late for people to break out of MAGA cult.
 
A lot of blacks after being set free still wished they were slaves ...they were fed and roof etc over their heads
 
After watching Uncle Ruckus I feel like we need to have a frank discussion on slavery. Ill divide my thoughts into two parts. The countries involved in slavery and then the people.

Throughout history nations have always traded excess resources with each other, particularly resources they didnt have enough of. In this case the white man brought money (in various forms), technology (guns etc) and civilization to countries in Africa run by black folk. Of course the Africans needed something to trade for it as otherwise the white man would just sail right on by. Whether thru biology or ignorance or any other factor the black folk in Africa have always been more fertile than white folk. You see white families have maybe 1-2 children and black families in africa have 7-8 even when they cant feed them anymore.

I know we all believe in the right of national self determination so we cant fault the black folk in Africa for making the decision to sell their excess resources (humans) in exchange for the various goods offered by the white folk. The Commerce between the two nations led to prosperity for the black folk who sold the others to slavery and less humans in their home country led to lower requirements for food and living space leading to a more peaceful time overall. As we can see both White and Black folk both profited immensly from slavery. I might even venture to say that the black folk in Africa came up ahead as technology takes time to develop while they can grow a new crop of slaves to sell in 9 months.

For the nations slavery seems to have been a beneficial thing. Now what about for the people themselves??

First we have to be brutally honest about something. If you were taken as a slave by the black folk stronger than you in Africa then you werent a Nigerian Prince. You were most likely in the bottom rung of society. Whether in Africa or in America you were probably going to end up as a slave anyway.

Obviously slaves ended up working the hardest jobs. Mostly in the agricultural sector. If you were going to work that job would you rather do it in the heat of Africa? Or in the more temperate climes of the US? Just being brought as slaves to the US was a massive increase to their standard of living.

Consider also that the person who bought you in the US values you as his property. The slave had to be caught by other blacks in Africa, brought by ship to America, and then ultimately sold to the end user. Thats a lot of value add in that chain which increased the price of slaves. If a slave died it would be extremely troublesome and costly to ship another from Africa to replace him. Now consider a slave in Africa. You just had to get caught by other stronger blacks. There is not a lot of value add in that production chain so if a slave died it would be easy to just capture another one. After all we have already established that people in Africa were just more fertile than those white folk abroad.

I think we can conclusively see that slavery was beneficial to all parties involved. The white end users, The black slavers, and the black slaves the black slavers captured.

Well is suspect living it was much more horrible than talking about it but that's about all that been done with regards to slavery since the passage of the 13th amendment. What's made slavery "bad" since then is the use of it by race baiters and the left to divide America and create the situations we have today.
 
No but that was the point. The people who were made slaves were going to be slaves no matter what. The only point of distinction was whether they would have some abusive african master or work in a white plantation.

A white plantation with an abusive white master. Slavery is very bad no matter who owns you. You seem to be trying to justify it.
 
I think we can conclusively see that slavery was beneficial to all parties involved. The white end users, The black slavers, and the black slaves the black slavers captured.
If slavery is so great, why are there slave revolts?

Why did the Pedo Nazis at 1/6 claim they are fighting to free our nation?
 
A white plantation with an abusive white master. Slavery is very bad no matter who owns you. You seem to be trying to justify it.

would you rather have been a slave with a white abusive master in America? Or a black tribal kang in Africa? At least the white plantation owner had your cost as something restraining him whereas you were much cheaper in Africa.

Again the people who were sold by the jungle bunnies in Africa werent the top of the social ladder. They were the ones taking the slaves to sell. They were at the very bottom which means they would end up as slaves anyway.
 
If slavery is so great, why are there slave revolts?

Why did the Pedo Nazis at 1/6 claim they are fighting to free our nation?

Ppeople always want more stuff. You get a dollar you want 10. You get 10 you want a 100. By taking the blacks out of Africa the whites gave them a headstart over the slaves that remained in Africa.
 
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