2009 off year election - Bellweather New York's 29th...

Jarod

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Look into whats happening in the 23rd district of New York. The Republican party has fractured between the hard line social conservatives and the moderate Republicans. The hard liners (Newt Gengrich and his ilk) are destroying the coalition and the party is falling apart. It looks like parts of the 29th will have its first Democrat representative since before the civil war...!

The Republican party better heal itself if they want a chance in 2010. Oust these radical social conservatives or wander in the desert for 20 years...!
 
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It's what I've been saying to republicans for the last year.

The Republican Party has been taken over by a radical element than sane republicans cannot control .. a dangerous element that wants violent insurrection in the US that I don't believe moderate republicans support, and an element that will lead the party to oiblivion in the exact manner that dissolved the Whigs.

Frankly, I don't believge there is anything they can do about it because that radical element is stronger and more boisterous than moderate republicans.

Additional, how strange it is that the more critical examination and critique of Obama is coming from the "left-wing" media and democrats while the morons who control the Republican Party focus on him going to try to get the Olympics, birth certificates, and ACORN.
 
I don't think this is bellwheather because most districts have Republicans that are much more conservative (in a philosophical way; functionally there's practically no difference no matter which Republican you select). And they also take place in states in which there's no Conservative party, so people would have to pick between the loons at the Libertarian and Constitution party.

The Democrats are most likely to lose seats in 2010.
 
/scratches head.....so in a District that was moderate enough that Obama was willing to appoint their previous Congressman to an administrative position, a Republican and an independent conservative are splitting the vote and the best that the Democrat can pull is 33%?......and this is bad news for the conservatives?......

Scozzafava....isn't she the one who called the cops because a reporter from the Weekly Standard was asking her questions about her position on the issues?.......better they should have a Democrat in office than a Republican who acts like a Democrat....
 
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Watermark said:
I don't think this is bellwheather because most districts have Republicans that are much more conservative (in a philosophical way; functionally there's practically no difference no matter which Republican you select). And they also take place in states in which there's no Conservative party, so people would have to pick between the loons at the Libertarian and Constitution party.

The Democrats are most likely to lose seats in 2010.
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You should first study that district.

No democrat has won there since the 1800's.

Additionally, if you study the race you'll see that local republicans have been usurped by national ones. The battle lines are drawn with Dick Armey and his band of lunatics on one side and the mainstream Republican Party on the other.
 
blackascoal said:
You should first study that district.

No democrat has won there since the 1800's.

Additionally, if you study the race you'll see that local republicans have been usurped by national ones. The battle lines are drawn with Dick Armey and his band of lunatics on one side and the mainstream Republican Party on the other.
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In a matchup with either candidate the Democrat would probably lose. However, in a two way race with the moderate he'd probably poll 40%, and in a two-way race with the conservative he'd probably poll around 45%.
 
Meanwhile, in Tennesee's 62nd District a Republican beat a Democrat who was opposed to gun-control and was endorsed by the Right To Life organization........resulting in the Republicans retaking control of the state house....the Democrat probably lost because he didn't have name recognition.....his name was Ty Cobb........

(do we have a /chortle emote?)
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
/scratches head.....so in a District that was moderate enough that Obama was willing to appoint their previous Congressman to an administrative position, a Republican and an independent conservative are splitting the vote and the best that the Democrat can pull is 33%?......and this is bad news for the conservatives?......

Scozzafava....isn't she the one who called the cops because a reporter from the Weekly Standard was asking her questions about her position on the issues?.......better they should have a Democrat in office than a Republican who acts like a Democrat....
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That's something the democrats LOVE to hear. I'm betting that if you say that loud enough they'll put you on the payroll.

You party of "purists" is shrinking .. that's the good news.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Meanwhile, in Tennesee's 62nd District a Republican beat a Democrat who was opposed to gun-control and was endorsed by the Right To Life organization........resulting in the Republicans retaking control of the state house....

(do we have a /chortle emote?)
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Yes you mean someone won a state assembly district? Can you wake me up later?

PMP, you're a garbage person.
 
Watermark said:
In a matchup with either candidate the Democrat would probably lose. However, in a two way race with the moderate he'd probably poll 40%, and in a two-way race with the conservative he'd probably poll around 45%.
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There's no question that the democrat would lose in a two-way race .. but you're missing the point. The interesting dynamic is not between the candidates, but the fighting for control that is going on within the Republican Party.
 
blackascoal said:
That's something the democrats LOVE to hear. I'm betting that if you say that loud enough they'll put you on the payroll.

You party of "purists" is shrinking .. that's the good news.
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lol....meanwhile the Dems put up candidates that are Pro-life and anti-gun control......talk to me about "purists"......
 
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There's no question that the democrat would lose in a two-way race .. but you're missing the point. The interesting dynamic is not between the candidates, but the fighting for control that is going on within the Republican Party.
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lol.....this from the guy complaining that Obama isn't a real "liberal".......
 
Jarod said:
Most Democrats are not real liberals. But you dont see the Democratic party fractured by trying to exclude tuns of groups.
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lol, you're fractured by trying to include them....that's why you can't decide if your FOR a public option or against it....whether your FOR gay marriage or against it....whether your FOR this or FOR that......you're schizophrenic.....
 
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lol, you're fractured by trying to include them....that's why you can't decide if your FOR a public option or against it....whether your FOR gay marriage or against it....whether your FOR this or FOR that......you're schizophrenic.....
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I belive those debates are healthy within a party.
 
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