Big trouble for Kiev

[Celticguy]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...-law-donetsk-4bca86846f073de6b1746adf9df13f14

No electricity, no heat, no water and winter is pretty much here.

No one can question the courage of the population but when you've been beaten, you've been beaten. What is the value of killing every last Ukrainian ? Reducing every Ukrainian building to rubble ? Ukraine is going to die from dehydration, hypothermia or disease. Can there be a worse way to die ?

END THIS CRAZINESS

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — The mayor of Kyiv, Ukraine’s capital, is warning residents that they must prepare for the worst this winter if Russia keeps striking the country’s energy infrastructure — and that means having no electricity, water or heat in the freezing cold cannot be ruled out.“We are doing everything to avoid this. But let’s be frank, our enemies are doing everything for the city to be without heat, without electricity, without water supply, in general, so we all die. And the future of the country and the future of each of us depends on how prepared we are for different situations,” Mayor Vitali Klitschko told state media.
Russia has focused on striking Ukraine’s energy infrastructure over the last month, causing power shortages and rolling outages across the country. Kyiv was scheduled to have hourly rotating blackouts Sunday in parts of the city and the surrounding region.
Rolling blackouts also were planned in the nearby Chernihiv, Cherkasy, Zhytomyr, Sumy, Kharkiv and Poltava regions, Ukraine’s state-owned energy operator, Ukrenergo, said.

 

[Cypress]

Trump supporters have been predicting the imminent demise and surrender of Ukraine since the second day of the war.

The Ukraine will be totally over run within days.

Soon the Ukrainian Army will be all but destroyed.

Ukrainian army- leaderless, deserting, unsupported .

"YOU DO NOT POKE THE RUSSIAN BEAR!"

 

[Hawkeye10]

Destroying Ukraine was always the goal.....You do not poke the Bear.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The Ukrainian oligarchs are telling the citizens to stay where they are, dont come home.

 

[signalmankenneth]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...-law-donetsk-4bca86846f073de6b1746adf9df13f14

No electricity, no heat, no water and winter is pretty much here.

No one can question the courage of the population but when you've been beaten, you've been beaten. What is the value of killing every last Ukrainian ? Reducing every Ukrainian building to rubble ? Ukraine is going to die from dehydration, hypothermia or disease. Can there be a worse way to die ?

END THIS CRAZINESS

I have faith in the resolve of the Ukrainian people to weather no electricity, no heat, and no water this winter?!!
Remember the alternative is boot on the neck oppression?!!

 

[Celticguy]

I have faith in the resolve of the Ukrainian people to weather no electricity, no heat, and no water this winter?!!
Remember the alternative is boot on the neck oppression?!!

Easy to say from the comfort of your nice warm den and a full belly.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

https://apnews.com/article/russia-u...-law-donetsk-4bca86846f073de6b1746adf9df13f14

No electricity, no heat, no water and winter is pretty much here.

No one can question the courage of the population but when you've been beaten, you've been beaten. What is the value of killing every last Ukrainian ? Reducing every Ukrainian building to rubble ? Ukraine is going to die from dehydration, hypothermia or disease. Can there be a worse way to die ?

END THIS CRAZINESS

Your idea of "ending the craziness" is letting the Russians have Ukraine. The citizens think otherwise.

 

[Phantasmal]

I have faith in the resolve of the Ukrainian people to weather no electricity, no heat, and no water this winter?!!
Remember the alternative is boot on the neck oppression?!!

If Ukrainians don’t have those things, neither will Russian soldiers.

 

[Hawkeye10]

This could not happen without Chinese approval.

 

[Celticguy]

Your idea of "ending the craziness" is letting the Russians have Ukraine. The citizens think otherwise.

Easy to say from the comfort of your nice warm den and a full belly.

 

[Celticguy]

If Ukrainians don’t have those things, neither will Russian soldiers.

they can sit back in the motherland and blow up power stations, reservoirs etc remotely.

 

[Celticguy]

This could not happen without Chinese approval.

Its good for them

 

[Cypress]

Easy to say from the comfort of your nice warm den and a full belly.

American civilians are weak and unaccustomed to war and sacrifice.

I am willing to believe MAGA supporters would surrender if they felt cold.


People in that part of the world have lived with almost constant warfare on their soil for 500 years. The citizens of Leningrad ate rats and sawdust rather than submit to Nazi legions at the gates of the city.

That type of tenacity in defense of your home turf is simply unimaginable to American civilians and MAGA supporters in particular.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Its good for them

This is not good for anybody......wars tend to spread and the global economic order is speeding towards a smash up even was the West nears collapse.

Our leaders are stunningly reckless.

This is going to hurt.

 

[Hawkeye10]

American civilians are weak and unaccustomed to war and sacrifice.

I am willing to believe MAGA supporters would surrender if they felt cold.


People in that part of the world have lived with almost constant warfare on their soil for 500 years. The citizens of Leningrad ate rats and sawdust rather than submit to Nazi legions at the gates of the city.

That type of tenacity in defense of your home turf is simply unimaginable to American civilians and MAGA supporters in particular.

America is now the land of the ignorant coward.

Very few have any idea what is coming.

 

[Phantasmal]

they can sit back in the motherland and blow up power stations, reservoirs etc remotely.

Yes, but what about the soldiers on the ground in the Ukraine? Did you forget about them?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Russian propaganda is claiming that plans are being made to largely abandon Kiev.

 

[moon]

It should be remembered as Biden's Nord Stream War.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It should be remembered as Biden's Nord Stream War.

I think it will go down as the death rattle of the West.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

American civilians are weak and unaccustomed to war and sacrifice.

I am willing to believe MAGA supporters would surrender if they felt cold.


People in that part of the world have lived with almost constant warfare on their soil for 500 years. The citizens of Leningrad ate rats and sawdust rather than submit to Nazi legions at the gates of the city.

That type of tenacity in defense of your home turf is simply unimaginable to American civilians and MAGA supporters in particular.

No, it's not. All of our wannabe Rambos here imagine themselves bravely standing up to invaders with their bang-bangs. But if real invaders -- with jets, tanks, missiles, etc. -- showed up, you're right. They'd crumble into dust.