Big trouble for Kiev

Let's all nuke each other into oblivion and get it over with.

It's better than being pussies who won't stand up to Putin.

It amazes me how much people value their lives when their lives are as fucking mediocre as they are.

I've lived a pretty good life, actually, and I'm not worried.
 
No electricity, no heat, no water and winter is pretty much here.

You are exaggerating. What is being said is they cannot guarantee the power and water will always be on. That does not mean there will be no power and water, just that it might be knocked out for days at a time.

No one can question the courage of the population but when you've been beaten, you've been beaten.

We would get better terms from the Russians than the Ukrainians, so would you advocate we surrender to the Russians too? Ukrainians are facing mass executions for "treason" against the Russians if they surrender. That is a nonstarter.

Ukraine is going to die from dehydration, hypothermia or disease.

Dehydration is a remote risk. They might have to go days without having water to flush toilets or take showers, but that is different than not having water to drink. If worst comes to worst, there is always snow.

The real danger here is disease spread by not having enough clean water, not a total lack of water. It is still better than being in an extermination camp.
 
Destroying Ukraine was always the goal.....You do not poke the Bear.

How dare Ukraine want to be a prosperous, independent nation?

The Ukrainian oligarchs are telling the citizens to stay where they are, dont come home.

Obvious point, you cannot have mission command if you are run by an oligarchy. The reason the Ukrainians are doing so well is regular Ukrainians are willing to take command. The reason that Russia is doing so badly is because they are ruled by an oligarchy.

Easy to say from the comfort of your nice warm den and a full belly.

Apparently it is easy for you to demand the Ukrainians suffer genocide from the comfort of the USA. When Putin turns on the USA, who will help us?
 
This could not happen without Chinese approval.

The Chinese never would have left so many Chinese citizens in Ukraine if they knew this would happen. There was clearly no Chinese pre-approval. The Chinese are stuck with this mess, but certainly did not chose for it to happen.
 
they can sit back in the motherland and blow up power stations, reservoirs etc remotely.

They cannot hold their frontlines remotely. If they pull back and bomb Ukraine from afar, then Ukrainians will recapture the occupied territories.

Outside the Crimea, there are very few locals who want the Russians anymore. Without Russian troops in the trenches, it all falls.
 
Russian propaganda is claiming that plans are being made to largely abandon Kiev.

Kiev is an hours drive from Russian forces in Belarus. It should have been an easy capture. If the Ukrainians did not abandon Kiev when Russian tanks were driving towards it, why would they now that Russians have no chance of taking it?
 
No, it's not. All of our wannabe Rambos here imagine themselves bravely standing up to invaders with their bang-bangs. But if real invaders -- with jets, tanks, missiles, etc. -- showed up, you're right. They'd crumble into dust.

It is amazing how quickly our wannabe Rambos cry for surrender.
 
Easy to say from the comfort of your nice warm den and a full belly.

As the American regime fails and America collapses into deprivation and chaos our leaders continue their practice of playing at war in far away lands, to catastrophic consequences.

Celticguy is saying how easy it is for us in America, while Hawkeye claims America is collapsing in deprivation and chaos...
 
They are punishment averse. I mean, who WANTS to go to prison ? Need a war to justify martial law and not flip Congress.

How many decades have you been claiming martial law is just around the corner... AND STILL NOTHING!!!
 
That people are shit quality now is arguably our biggest blind spot.

It is also taboo to talk about this.
 
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