Gun-toting soccer mom, husband shot

Superfreak said:
Actually, if your theory of 'its da guns' was true, then their murder rates should be diminishing.... NOT increasing.
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a fucking coach warrior like you would thinks so, I don't pay NRA dues and I'm more conserned with the 12,000 more murders here than were we at their level. quoting a rate that is exponentially smaller though rising is pure NRA lover bullshit.

fucking chickenhawk
 
Topspin said:
a fucking coach warrior like you would thinks so, I don't pay NRA dues and I'm more conserned with the 12,000 more murders here than were we at their level. quoting a rate that is exponentially smaller though rising is pure NRA lover bullshit.

fucking chickenhawk
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There are so many holes in your arguments the Swiss are going to ask you how to make better cheese.
 
go on living with your trailer trash friends pretending your smart.
I'll check out and let you gun lovers have it.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Ah so anyone who open carry's is a family killer?
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No. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. If I saw a holstered cop at my kids' activities, I wouldn't give it a second thought. But if I saw holstered parents, I'd be very, very wary about being around them, and would quite possibly remove my kids from the games.
 
christiefan915 said:
No. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. If I saw a holstered cop at my kids' activities, I wouldn't give it a second thought. But if I saw holstered parents, I'd be very, very wary about being around them, and would quite possibly remove my kids from the games.
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So would every normal non NRA freak
 
christiefan915 said:
No. But just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it. If I saw a holstered cop at my kids' activities, I wouldn't give it a second thought. But if I saw holstered parents, I'd be very, very wary about being around them, and would quite possibly remove my kids from the games.
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really? you distrust other parents more than cops?

the only ones with guns

check out the stories after clicking on the link and tell me if you think you would still trust cops more than parents.
 
Topspin said:
go on living with your trailer trash friends pretending your smart.
I'll check out and let you gun lovers have it.
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Pretending I'm smart? You're the one who trounces his college education at EVERY opportunity, yet you can't even form a coherent argument. You know you're not going to change my opinion and I know that in all likely hood, I won't change yours. But people on the fence about such things are almost certainly going to side with me, as I can at least make a presentable argument for my position and against yours. You have yet to refute anything, you frequently resort to name calling, and from the looks of things, can barely spell. If that's what college gets you, I can look elsewhere for intelligence.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Pretending I'm smart? You're the one who trounces his college education at EVERY opportunity, yet you can't even form a coherent argument. You know you're not going to change my opinion and I know that in all likely hood, I won't change yours. But people on the fence about such things are almost certainly going to side with me, as I can at least make a presentable argument for my position and against yours. You have yet to refute anything, you frequently resort to name calling, and from the looks of things, can barely spell. If that's what college gets you, I can look elsewhere for intelligence.
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Hey GEDboy I was talking to the other GED boy. Yes trailer trash will agree with you. People who didn't have the tough it out to go love to pat each other on the back and justify when niether should have gone, often they are right.
All I ever try to point out is jobs are easier and pay more as you go up the education ladder.:clink:
 
SmarterThanYou said:
really? you distrust other parents more than cops?

the only ones with guns

check out the stories after clicking on the link and tell me if you think you would still trust cops more than parents.
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I trust cops less than I do parents. But... if I see a cop at a kids' game, my impression is that he's on his beat and stopped by for a minute or so, and the gun is just part of his uniform. If I see a parent carrying at a game, my first impression is that this person needs protection against a specific threat, a very serious threat, and is somebody else going to show up with a gun, and the two get into a shoot-out? Maybe you think that scenario is far-fetched, but I really don't see the reason for carrying a weapon into a child's activity.
 
christiefan915 said:
I trust cops less than I do parents. But... if I see a cop at a kids' game, my impression is that he's on his beat and stopped by for a minute or so, and the gun is just part of his uniform. If I see a parent carrying at a game, my first impression is that this person needs protection against a specific threat, a very serious threat, and is somebody else going to show up with a gun, and the two get into a shoot-out? Maybe you think that scenario is far-fetched, but I really don't see the reason for carrying a weapon into a child's activity.
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the remarks in bold are contradictory. you say that if you saw a parent carrying a gun at a game, you'd assume they need to protect themselves from some threat, yet you can't see the reason for carrying to a childs activity. I also want to ask you if it makes a difference if you were to discover that someone was at the game but were concealing the weapon.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
the remarks in bold are contradictory. you say that if you saw a parent carrying a gun at a game, you'd assume they need to protect themselves from some threat, yet you can't see the reason for carrying to a childs activity. I also want to ask you if it makes a difference if you were to discover that someone was at the game but were concealing the weapon.
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My remarks aren't contradictory. It's all one thought. If somebody is in that much danger, why would they hang out in a public place filled with children, if there was the possibility gunfire could occur? Why would they risk accidental wounding or killing somebody innocent?

If I was at the game and found someone was carrying concealed, I'd be just as bothered.

I see people dying too often in my city, innocent people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. We had a 28% increase in homicides in 2008, most of them from gunfire. What's the answer to this? Is a 5-year old supposed to sleep with a gun under his pillow? Is a 12-year old supposed to carry on the streets?

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Stanton Heights slaying
 
christiefan915 said:
My remarks aren't contradictory. It's all one thought. If somebody is in that much danger, why would they hang out in a public place filled with children, if there was the possibility gunfire could occur? Why would they risk accidental wounding or killing somebody innocent?
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in the case of Ms. Hain, she also had kids and one of them was playing soccer. The average parent is going to attempt to keep the lives of their children as stable as necessary so as not to upset and frighten their kids.

christiefan915 said:
If I was at the game and found someone was carrying concealed, I'd be just as bothered.
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so as long as you don't know about it, you're ok with it. and you see nothing wrong with your mentality on this particular issue?

christiefan915 said:
I see people dying too often in my city, innocent people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. We had a 28% increase in homicides in 2008, most of them from gunfire. What's the answer to this? Is a 5-year old supposed to sleep with a gun under his pillow? Is a 12-year old supposed to carry on the streets?

Kholen Germany
Jaylon Johnson-Floyd
Shavaughn Wallace
LA Fitness

Stanton Heights slaying
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no, of course not. But a parent, or parents, should be prepared to defend themselves and their children with the best tools available. If criminals and gangmembers are going to use guns, then one must use guns to be on even ground. If necessary, then the parents of that neighborhood need to, pardon the term, but 'buck up' and start arming themselves in the open. Put these gangbangers doing drive bys on notice that if they shoot out of their cars, they are going to receive bullets back. FORCE is the only thing these thugs understand. use it.
 
Topspin said:
Hey GEDboy I was talking to the other GED boy. Yes trailer trash will agree with you. People who didn't have the tough it out to go love to pat each other on the back and justify when niether should have gone, often they are right.
All I ever try to point out is jobs are easier and pay more as you go up the education ladder.:clink:
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Thanks for the vindication, but I honestly feel sorry for you. Whether you agree or disagree with me is fine either way. But your misplaced feelings of superiority really show some deep emotional problems.

I'm not messing around man, you may need help.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
in the case of Ms. Hain, she also had kids and one of them was playing soccer. The average parent is going to attempt to keep the lives of their children as stable as necessary so as not to upset and frighten their kids.

Mrs. Hain preached the NRA gospel that "guns don't kill, people do". She thought carrying a gun would guarantee her safety. Do you see the irony in a person carrying a gun for protection, or whatever, getting shot by her husband? If somebody armed and aware as Mrs. Hain could get shot, what chance does an unarmed person have?

so as long as you don't know about it, you're ok with it. and you see nothing wrong with your mentality on this particular issue?

My mentality is that if I don't know something, it's not on my brain so how could I make a value judgment? Obviously I can only react to things I know about.

no, of course not. But a parent, or parents, should be prepared to defend themselves and their children with the best tools available. If criminals and gangmembers are going to use guns, then one must use guns to be on even ground. If necessary, then the parents of that neighborhood need to, pardon the term, but 'buck up' and start arming themselves in the open. Put these gangbangers doing drive bys on notice that if they shoot out of their cars, they are going to receive bullets back. FORCE is the only thing these thugs understand. use it.
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My perspective is that most gang shootings here are random acts of violence based on drug deals gone bad, fights over girlfriends/boyfriends, robberies, etc. Mainly drug-related. We don't have the kind of gangs prevalent in L.A., NYC or Chicago. I don't know what the solution is to ending violence; I just think that adding more guns to the mix isn't it. IMHO.
 
christiefan915 said:
My perspective is that most gang shootings here are random acts of violence based on drug deals gone bad, fights over girlfriends/boyfriends, robberies, etc. Mainly drug-related. We don't have the kind of gangs prevalent in L.A., NYC or Chicago. I don't know what the solution is to ending violence; I just think that adding more guns to the mix isn't it. IMHO.
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Ending the war on drugs would sure help, and should also serve as a reminder that prohibition of something is ineffective.
 
CaptBillyTheKid said:
Thanks for the vindication, but I honestly feel sorry for you. Whether you agree or disagree with me is fine either way. But your misplaced feelings of superiority really show some deep emotional problems.

I'm not messing around man, you may need help.
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I don't feel superior at all, just way more educated and richer.
 
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