"Don't go to college, go to a trade school"

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Vo-tech is the third highest regretful "degree", only a couple points behind humanities and social sciences.

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Given the sampling error in any legitimate polling, the level of 'regret' between a philosophy major and a vocational degree is statistically about the same.
 
LV426 said:
Vo-tech is the third highest regretful "degree", only a couple points behind humanities and social sciences.
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Don’t we all have regrets?
If only I could get a second chance and choose most any point in time from the age of about 14 to about 36 I would have done things differently.
I really swam upstream for a long time.
 
anonymoose said:
Don’t we all have regrets?
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Sure, but the issue here is that Conservatives believe a college education shouldn't be available to everyone because they want to keep people dumb.

So they tell them to go to a Vo-tech school like DeVry where they don't develop critical thinking skills; and since their critical thinking was arrested at age 18, they don't have the critical thinking to know that they're being exploited for their labor.
 
LV426 said:
Sure, but the issue here is that Conservatives believe a college education shouldn't be available to everyone because they want to keep people dumb.

So they tell them to go to a Vo-tech school like DeVry where they don't develop critical thinking skills; and since their critical thinking was arrested at age 18, they don't have the critical thinking to know that they're being exploited for their labor.
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And DeVry is a fraudulent school.
 
LV426 said:
Sure, but the issue here is that Conservatives believe a college education shouldn't be available to everyone because they want to keep people dumb.

So they tell them to go to a Vo-tech school like DeVry where they don't develop critical thinking skills; and since their critical thinking was arrested at age 18, they don't have the critical thinking to know that they're being exploited for their labor.
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Oh, I thought the point of the OP was that Humanities and Arts, and Social and Behavior Sciences were worse than vo-tech school. Whew! Glad I didn’t do those three worst.
 
LV426 said:
Yes, that too.

Many of those for-profit "trade schools" are scams.
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If I went down the vocational path I would go to a public community college for nursing, automotive technology, or electronics.

Trump University should have taught us a lesson about private schools
 
LV426 said:
Sure, but the issue here is that Conservatives believe a college education shouldn't be available to everyone because they want to keep people dumb.

So they tell them to go to a Vo-tech school like DeVry where they don't develop critical thinking skills; and since their critical thinking was arrested at age 18, they don't have the critical thinking to know that they're being exploited for their labor.
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The posters who holler that a college degree is either worthless or highly overrated generally never graduated college themselves, and have no idea what the college experience is.

Plumbing, welding, vocational nursing are honorable work.

But the MAGA claim that all humanities majors are working at Starbucks seems to be based on what they heard rightwing media personalities state.
 
I almost fell out my chair when a black high school teacher of mine (he teaches African American history) posted a meme on Facebook that said:

"Please young men learn: Plumbing, Carpentry, Electrical Roofing, Drywall/Painting. It's so much money in these fields!!!!"


This teacher is a progressive dude and my initial thought was a recommendation like this goes against everything progressives stand for today (i.e. - college or bust). But then I realized he's lives in the real world and a fair number of kids at my school coming from working class/lower class backgrounds. Most at my high school do go to college but not everyone is going to be a doctor, lawyer or work in the tech world and the meme is right, the jobs listed can pay well.

It's interesting this ideological shift that has occurred. The 70's were obviously a different time for many reasons and a number of jobs that existed then don't exist today. But it's interesting to read about the Democrats at the time who were really pro trade school because many of their voters were working class. Clearly a lot has changed.
 
cawacko said:
I almost fell out my chair when a black high school teacher of mine (he teaches African American history) posted a meme on Facebook that said:

"Please young men learn: Plumbing, Carpentry, Electrical Roofing, Drywall/Painting. It's so much money in these fields!!!!"


This teacher is a progressive dude and my initial thought was a recommendation like this goes against everything progressives stand for today (i.e. - college or bust). But then I realized he's lives in the real world and a fair number of kids at my school coming from working class/lower class backgrounds. Most at my high school do go to college but not everyone is going to be a doctor, lawyer or work in the tech world and the meme is right, the jobs listed can pay well.

It's interesting this ideological shift that has occurred. The 70's were obviously a different time for many reasons and a number of jobs that existed then don't exist today. But it's interesting to read about the Democrats at the time who were really pro trade school because many of their voters were working class. Clearly a lot has changed.
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Oh, a Black guy.
 
anonymoose said:
Oh, I thought the point of the OP was that Humanities and Arts, and Social and Behavior Sciences were worse than vo-tech school. Whew! Glad I didn’t do those three worst.
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The graph is misleading because they arbitrarily cut it off at 50 percent. One takeaway message is that the majority of humanities majors and vocational students are happy with their choice.
 
LV426 said:
Sure, but the issue here is that Conservatives believe a college education shouldn't be available to everyone because they want to keep people dumb.

So they tell them to go to a Vo-tech school like DeVry where they don't develop critical thinking skills; and since their critical thinking was arrested at age 18, they don't have the critical thinking to know that they're being exploited for their labor.
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the biggest issue needing to be pointed out is that a college degree does not make one 'smart', as evidenced by your dipshit mentality when it comes to just about anything ever discussed on this board. college certainly doesn't teach critical thinking skills because you've repeatedly shown that you have none.
 
Cypress said:
The posters who holler that a college degree is either worthless or highly overrated generally never graduated college themselves, and have no idea what the college experience is.

Plumbing, welding, vocational nursing are honorable work.

But the MAGA claim that all humanities majors are working at Starbucks seems to be based on what they heard rightwing media personalities state.
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they are overrated, mostly.................I've met way too many college graduates that I wouldn't trust to work fast food, let alone whatever the hell it is they majored in.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the biggest issue needing to be pointed out is that a college degree does not make one 'smart', as evidenced by your dipshit mentality when it comes to just about anything ever discussed on this board. college certainly doesn't teach critical thinking skills because you've repeatedly shown that you have none.
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You are a moron.
 
The most-regretted (and lowest-paying) college majors

According to Schmidt, the Great Recession sparked the beginning of a downward spiral in humanities such as history, art, philosophy, English and foreign languages.

“In the period of the Great Recession, you had Barack Obama out there saying we need more STEM majors and fewer English majors,” Schmidt said. “That was a story you were hearing from a lot of people in influential positions … and I think that made a difference.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/09/02/college-major-regrets/
 
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