What conclusions can you draw?

[Shoresy]

It's not about top secret clearance, it's about what you are allowed to do if you have that clearance.

Arbitrarily declassifying documents retroactively is not something POTUS is allowed to do.

Here are the FAQs, and you'll find nothing in it has anything to do with Trump magically declaring something declassified after the fact: https://www.justice.gov/archives/open/declassification/declassification-faq

No it's about the authority of the POTUS to declassify documents at will you fucking retard.

Department of Navy vs. Egan


The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U.S. 886, 890, 81 S.Ct. 1743, 1746, 6 L.Ed.2d 1230 (1961).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/484/518

 

[Shoresy]

Trump was no longer the president when he was in possession of the classified docs. Now what bullshit are you gonna make up to support your lame argument this time, Shitsy?

The documents were declassified while he was still President moron.

 

[Shoresy]

The Director of the NSA.

The unelected director of the NSA who serves at the discretion of the POTUS has security clearance over the President?

So on your planet the NSA director is the head of the Executive branch?? God you're dumb.

 

[Shoresy]

Pop Quiz on the Law: Who owns presidential documents?

We the People through our elected representatives which in the case of classified documents would be the POTUS as CinC.

 

[Shoresy]

Don't have a little hissy fit just because I called out you're fucking bullshit lie and made you look like a fucking MAGA moron.
Go suck Trump's dick some more. It'll make you feel better.

KYS retard.

Department of Navy vs. Egan


The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U.S. 886, 890, 81 S.Ct. 1743, 1746, 6 L.Ed.2d 1230 (1961).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/484/518

 

[Joe Capitalist]

No it's about the authority of the POTUS to declassify documents at will you fucking retard.

Department of Navy vs. Egan


The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U.S. 886, 890, 81 S.Ct. 1743, 1746, 6 L.Ed.2d 1230 (1961).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/484/518

That says NOTHING about the Intelligence Community, you fucking moron. You're NOT going to win this argument, Shitsy. If you watched something besides the far right media bullshit, you'd know that declassifying documents requires authority from the agency that classified it and there is documented evidence of the process. No evidence exists for Trump's docs.

Now, quit making bullshit up Shitsy and pretend you know what you're talking about. Trump is fucked and there's nothing you can do about it.
Get used to accepting that you chose the wrong horse to ride for the last six years.

 

[Truth Detector]

What conclusions can you draw?

What conclusions can you come to when stolen top-secret documents are found in a drawer with passports? The warrant allowed the FBI to seize anything found alongside top-secret documents, that is because conclusions can be drawn based on such evidence.

I’m sure there are a couple of options as to why these documents were kept together? Let’s see if you people can come up with a few of them.

That is a lie. How do you know they were stolen? Did MSNBC tell you that? The corrupted FBI?

If this is such a HUGE issue, why wait until after the midterm elections to file charges?

This is nothing more than another failed Democrat Fascistic hit job. Just as the Russian collusion HOAX. The Mueller investigation HOAX. The Ukraine phone call HOAX and now the January 6th inquisition HOAX. After a while, people start ignoring Chicken Little Democrats and their cries of racism, insurrections and stolen secrets.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The documents were declassified while he was still President moron.

There's no evidence of that, Shitsy. And Trump lost all classified clearances on January 20th 2021 the second Biden was sworn in.

Give it up , Shitsy. You look more foolish with every inane post.

 

[Joe Capitalist]

The unelected director of the NSA who serves at the discretion of the POTUS has security clearance over the President?

So on your planet the NSA director is the head of the Executive branch?? God you're dumb.

You're just making shit up again, Shitsy. I'm not going to debate someone who has no respect for truth and facts. I'm wasting my time.
Time is on my side. You're orange turd is going down and you have to believe some pretty whacky shit to think otherwise.

 

[Jarod]

That is a lie. How do you know they were stolen? Did MSNBC tell you that? The corrupted FBI?

If this is such a HUGE issue, why wait until after the midterm elections to file charges?

This is nothing more than another failed Democrat Fascistic hit job. Just as the Russian collusion HOAX. The Mueller investigation HOAX. The Ukraine phone call HOAX and now the January 6th inquisition HOAX. After a while, people start ignoring Chicken Little Democrats and their cries of racism, insurrections and stolen secrets.

Trump did not own them.
Trump took them to his home.
Trump did not return them when asked.
Trump did not return them when they were subpoenaed.

I call that stolen.

 

[Truth Detector]

Trump did not own them.

Who is saying he owned them. That's a laughably stupid talking point.

Trump took them to his home.

You know this how? Did someone see Trump stuff them down his pants and walk out the door? Another laughably stupid talking point suggesting that Trump didn't do the nation's business at Mar-A-Lago or that he packed his own papers when leaving.

Trump did not return them when asked.

There is no evidence to support that bullshit either. If it is a document dispute, you don't lie on an affidavit and send 30 FBI agents in to raid a former Presidents house. That's what they do ion Fascistic third world shit holes. You know, the kind Democrats are desperately trying to turn this nation into.

Trump did not return them when they were subpoenaed.

Got a link to the subpoena? Does Obama have documents from his Presidency? Don't most Presidents have documents from their Presidencies? Why is this suddenly a national issue that is so important, the DOJ has not filed charges?

I call that stolen.

Well, you say a LOT of stupid things that are quite meaningless and lacking common sense.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

THat is one theory.

At least you're being honest about it. We simply don't know enough to come to solid conclusions on this. Doing so is nothing but Ludic fallacy (second guessing the unknowns and unknown unknowns).

 

[Shoresy]

That says NOTHING about the Intelligence Community,

Every membee of the intel community (NSA, CIA, FBI DNI, etc.) is just a department of the Executive you literal fucking retard.

Department of Navy vs. Egan


The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U.S. 886, 890, 81 S.Ct. 1743, 1746, 6 L.Ed.2d 1230 (1961).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/484/518

 

[Noking]

Every membee of the intel community (NSA, CIA, FBI DNI, etc.) is just a department of the Executive you literal fucking retard.

Department of Navy vs. Egan


The President, after all, is the "Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States." U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2. His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant. See Cafeteria Workers v. McElroy, 367 U.S. 886, 890, 81 S.Ct. 1743, 1746, 6 L.Ed.2d 1230 (1961).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/484/518

You must be Trump's new lawyer.

 

[Shoresy]

You're just making shit up again, Shitsy. I'm not going to debate someone who has no respect for truth and facts. I'm wasting my time.
Time is on my side. You're orange turd is going down and you have to believe some pretty whacky shit to think otherwise.

You think the director of the NSA has authority over the POTUS to determine classified status, you're a fucking retard not worthy of serious consideration.

 

[Shoresy]

You must be Trump's new lawyer.

Facts are stubborn things

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Why do you create yet another thread everytime you want to post?????

That's it- Kill the paper boy because you don't like the news!

CHILDISH, DISGRACEFUL, DISTRACTING, & DESPERATE- BUT FUCKING HILARIOUS!

My God, this is so entertaining watching you TRUMPTARDS stewing in your own shit!

 

[Noking]

That's it- Kill the paper boy because you don't like the news!

CHILDISH, DISGRACEFUL- BUT FUCKING HILARIOUS!

You do have a point, the Lord of Cretins is quite the comedian.

 

[Noking]

Facts are stubborn things

Maybe fact are stubborn, but what about hallucinations??????????

 

[Grokmaster]

They didn't "blank anything out". The excluded data that would cause harm or reveal sources. It's done all the time. I've made numerous FOIA requests and there are ALWAYS redactions.

HORSESHIT. THE ONLY "HARM" WOULD HAVE BEEN REVEALING MORE OF THEIR LIES.

IT IS A POLITICAL WITCH HUNT, JUST LIEK THE RUSSIA LIES CONSPIRACY.

WHERE ARE ALL THE "THREATS TO NATIONAL SECURTY"?

THE "NUCLEAR SECRETS"???


GIFT ITEMS?? CLOTHING??


SAME ASSHOLES WHO LIED TO THE FISA COURT...SAME CRIMES.