NASA cancels Artemis Launch

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Hawkeye10

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Despite all of the hard work by its engineers and technicians, NASA did not really get close to firing up the massive Space Launch System (SLS) rocket on Monday.

The rocket experienced several issues during the countdown early on Monday before running into a technical problem the launch team could not solve: an RS-25 rocket engine that did not properly chill down prior to ignition.
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Beginning in April of this year, NASA conducted four separate "wet dress rehearsal" tests during which the agency aimed to fully fuel the SLS rocket and countdown to T-10 seconds, ending the test before ignition of the main engines. Each of these four tests ultimately ended prematurely, although the fourth attempt in June saw engineers bring the rocket down to T-29 seconds.

However, to reach that late stage in the countdown, NASA had to "fool" the flight computer. During the test, a 4-inch hydrogen line—smaller than the problematic 8-inch line on Monday—had a leaky seal. To complete the wet dress test, NASA chose to mask the leak from the ground launch sequencer, the ground-side computer that controls the majority of the countdown.

Because of this masking, NASA could not complete the engine chill portion of the test. Had it done so, the agency may well have uncovered the problem that caused a scrub on Monday. In hindsight, therefore, NASA probably should have completed a full wet dress rehearsal before rolling the rocket out for a launch. Instead, the agency effectively attempted a fifth wet dress test on Monday, when the world was expecting a launch
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https://arstechnica.com/science/202...ueling-test-before-todays-sls-launch-attempt/

The problem with the Americans trying to go back to the Moon is that NASA is nowhere near what it used to be.

100,000 had been predicted to show up to watch the launch...they were all disappointed.
 
Jarod said:
They scrubbed one launch window. Do you know how many Apollo launch windows were scrubbed? NASA is much better than it was back then.
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This was a cluster fuck......and it may well be many months before they try again.....they have no idea what the problem is.

If you think NASA is better than it was in the 60's then you are a moron.
 
As of Wednesday night, there were over 4,000 registered private watch parties — including events slated to take place in family homes, classrooms, schools and universities. And there were nearly 2,500 registered public watch parties slated to kick off at museums, NASA Visitor Centers, planetariums, and more, according to Patricia Moore, an Artemis outreach strategist.
NASA and others within the US government are hoping the event and the hype surrounding it will inspire a new generation of aerospace aficionados.
"The Artemis mission's goal of putting the first woman and the first person of color on the Moon represents a once-in-a-generation chance to inspire our young people to see themselves in space and in science, technology, engineering, and math learning," said Cindy Marten, US Department of Education Deputy Secretary, in a statement. "We're going to need the full spectrum of skill sets to meet the needs and challenges of the future—from physicists to welders. There is room for everyone in space."
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https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/nasa-watch-parties-artemis-1-scn/index.html

All disappointed. Going forwards folks should remember that this is the 2022 version of NASA.....really big on WOKE ideology....core competence in the technology not so much.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
This was a cluster fuck......and it may well be many months before they try again.....they have no idea what the problem is.

If you think NASA is better than it was in the 60's then you are a moron.
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You are uninformed about history if you think this is not exactly how Apollo worked. Its the nature of cutting edge space flight.
 
Jarod said:
You are uninformed about history if you think this is not exactly how Apollo worked. Its the nature of cutting edge space flight.
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We are trying to do again what we did in the 60's, and are failing at it....this is the opposite of cutting edge space flight as you should know...likely do know....but you are a liar.
 
"We cant make it work" or "With the way we do things this is going to cost way the fuck too much" so cancel the program is now damn we near the norm with military gear.

We have done it before with NASA too, maybe we will do it here.
 
Its worth noting that NASA's long term partner Boeings Starliner program is a cluster fuck. It is starting to get iffy that they will ever launch an astronaut as the the Space Station is not likely to last long.

What a waste that was.....very little of what was intended with it got accomplished.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
https://arstechnica.com/science/202...ueling-test-before-todays-sls-launch-attempt/

The problem with the Americans trying to go back to the Moon is that NASA is nowhere near what it used to be.

100,000 had been predicted to show up to watch the launch...they were all disappointed.
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And if it goes off as planned next week or the week after are you going to again peddle the cynicism?

Tell the truth, you don't really like NASA because they fully support the reality of man made climate change
 
archives said:
And if it goes off as planned next week or the week after are you going to again peddle the cynicism?

Tell the truth, you don't really like NASA because they fully support the reality of man made climate change
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I dont like NASA because they do shit quality work most of the time now.....they are a premier symbol of Americas decline.

With all of the leaks this rocket has had I half expect it to blow up in the launchpad, which would likely kill the program.

There was never not much enthusiasm for it to start with.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We are trying to do again what we did in the 60's, and are failing at it....this is the opposite of cutting edge space flight as you should know...likely do know....but you are a liar.
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Because they postponed one launch? Silly.
 
That no one started a thread on this cluster fuck before I did indicates lack of interest.

And maybe lack of confidence in NASA..."Oh NASA is failing again? Situation normal...no news here!".
 
Jarod said:
Because they postponed one launch? Silly.
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The fact that they did not launch today has nothing to do with the fact that what they are trying to do is old hat, that it should not be a problem.

You have either failed to comprehend or else you are slinging the BullShit.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The fact that they did not launch today has nothing to do with the fact that what they are trying to do is old hat, that it should not be a problem.

You have either failed to comprehend or else you are slinging the BullShit.
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You are in a 60's mindset, they aren't landing on the moon, nor just sling shotting around the moon, rather testing new equipment with the end goal of someday flying to Mars
 
In my opening post it talks about how NASA clearly failed to do proper testing, and this is with them knowing for many months that they have a lot of problems with leaks....that's negligence....that is NASA 2022.

But they are clear about pronoun procedures, you can be sure of that!
 
Hawkeye10 said:
The fact that they did not launch today has nothing to do with the fact that what they are trying to do is old hat, that it should not be a problem.

You have either failed to comprehend or else you are slinging the BullShit.
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That was not the claim in your work opening post. From what I’ve read about the Artemis mission, it is fairly innovative, with a separate orbiter that will be providing communications, mapping and other scientific data in addition to the lunar lander. Additionally the Artemis mission has components which would enable, with some modifications, a manned mission to Mars. The Artemis mission is piggybacking on lesson learned from Apollo and the space shuttle, but that’s how all progress in scientific exploration happens.
 
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