Can you tell us why you support Trump over democrats?

[T. A. Gardner]

...and often badly!

I've found some of their antics in courtrooms quite hilarious. I've seen prosecuting attorneys present so badly they wind up helping the defense. I've seen defense lawyers so bad they wind up helping the prosecution. I've seen a judge roll their eyes at some of this idiocy as well, before finally shutting these idiots up.

And some of them went into government.

Last time I had to go to court (one of the kids had issues with the ex--) I insulted her lawyer from the stand, and did it so effectively that even the judge was laughing at him...

 

[jbander]

There was until recently, it's called Somalia.

What a idiot, your bullshit is catching up to you. Communism ,So pure in mind and heart that there are no leaders needed , no party, no government, no money. Because with the pure heart and mind, decisions of every mind are good for all. Money quits to exist, it's Marx's nirvana ,Like I said, you are a idiot. Try again, where did the above exist. What a lonesome lame brain without make believe you have nothing.

 

[jbander]

He thinks he can bullshit his way out of the stupid mark I put on him. He can't but it will get more and more humorous as time goes by.

 

[jbander]

Marx defined communism and Marx communism has never existed nor will it ever.

 

[Walt]

It is the Left that defines "the welfare State" as socialism.

The welfare state, where the state guarantees the basic welfare of the people, was invented by the Social Democrats in Germany, but was implemented by Bismarck(not a socialist). Talking about something is easily, the actual implementation is where it gets innovative.

 

[Bigdog]

What a idiot, your bullshit is catching up to you. Communism ,So pure in mind and heart that there are no leaders needed , no party, no government, no money. Because with the pure heart and mind, decisions of every mind are good for all. Money quits to exist, it's Marx's nirvana ,Like I said, you are a idiot. Try again, where did the above exist. What a lonesome lame brain without make believe you have nothing.

No, you and Marx are idiots. And neither of you know anything about human nature.

"The World Bank estimates that over 98% of the notes in circulation in Somalia are fake. The last notes were printed by the Central Bank before the collapse of the government in 1991."

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2021/...nk estimates that,to print new currency notes.

 

[Bigdog]

The welfare state, where the state guarantees the basic welfare of the people, was invented by the Social Democrats in Germany, but was implemented by Bismarck(not a socialist). Talking about something is easily, the actual implementation is where it gets innovative.

I believe Marx is credited with inventing it, not the Social Democrats. IMO, like prostitution, ... it has been around for most of human existence.

Yes, Prince Bismarck. The German or Prussian Monarchy created the world's "first modern welfare State".

But even in the monarchial feudal system, the King's armies protected the workers and the monarchy gave them a place to live and enough food to subsist.

 

[Lionfish]

 

[Into the Night]

Yes, Britannica, there is no argument.

Nonsense statement.

I'm sorry you buy into the white neo lib definition, instead of Marx's original definition.

Marx didn't define 'fascism' or it's concept.

Everyone understands strength in unity, even chimpanzees, Cape buffalo, meerkats, etc.. United we stand, divided we fall ... is in no way something new,

Never said it was.

invented by Mussolini.

Mussolini didn't define the concept of 'fascism', though he coined this word.

It predates Rome, it predates history.

The concept of fascism predates both.

Please elaborate.

Fascism is an economic system, based on government manipulation of markets. It can occur with any form of government, but to force it requires a dictatorship or oligarchy.

The gov't does not need to own them. They just need to control them.

Which is what I said. You just denied your own argument.

Yes, especially in regards to Silicon Valley rigging elections under the threat of losing Section 230 immunity.

Silicon Valley does not rig elections. Forcing their censorship on their users for political reasons however means they have ALREADY LOST section 230 immunity. They are open to lawsuits for libel now.

The original form, created by Mussolini, was later perverted by German influences.

Mussolini did not create the concept of fascism. Germany didn't change it either. Fascism is simply fascism. It is government manipulation of markets. Nothing more.

How many opposed, we will never know. Yes, Dissent was not permitted, as we see now with the Democrat party.

Quite true. As already demonstrated numerous times, the Democrats do not recognize inherent rights or the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution. They want an oligarchy. They conducted a coup and installed Joe Biden to get it.

National Socialism is a form of dictatorship or oligarchy.

There is no such thing as 'National Socialism'. Buzzword fallacy. Socialism does not necessarily require a dictatorship or oligachy, though those two forms of government are required to force it on people that don't want it.

 

[Into the Night]

What a idiot, your bullshit is catching up to you.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself.

Communism ,So pure in mind and heart that there are no leaders needed , no party, no government, no money.

Communism is government ownership of markets. That means a government, dummy. To force it upon people that don't want it requires a dictatorship or oligarchy. You also don't understand even what money is. Redefinition fallacies (anarchy<->government, money<->void).

Because with the pure heart and mind, decisions of every mind are good for all.

Marx never described any such order. He divided people into working class, elite class, and company owner class. You have obviously never read any of his works.

Money quits to exist, it's Marx's nirvana

Learn what money is. You are making shit up.

Like I said, you are a idiot.

Inversion fallacy. You are describing yourself again.

Try again, where did the above exist.

RQAA. I can also add Italy, Germany, the United States, Japan, China, Canada, and pretty much any nation. Communism existed in them all and still does today (except the United States, which no longer exists).

What a lonesome lame brain without make believe you have nothing.

You are describing yourself again. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

He thinks he can bullshit his way out of the stupid mark I put on him. He can't but it will get more and more humorous as time goes by.

You have 'The Mark'????!?? Run! Run! Save yourselves!

 

[Into the Night]

Marx defined communism and Marx communism has never existed nor will it ever.

Marx didn't define communism nor invent the concept.

 

[Into the Night]

The welfare state, where the state guarantees the basic welfare of the people, was invented by the Social Democrats in Germany,

Nope. Communism existed since before recorded history.

but was implemented by Bismarck(not a socialist).

Fiction. Bismark did not invent communism either.

Talking about something is easily, the actual implementation is where it gets innovative.

Nope. Government ownership of markets is not innovative at all. It destroys innovation, key to capitalism.

 

[Into the Night]

No, you and Marx are idiots. And neither of you know anything about human nature.

"The World Bank estimates that over 98% of the notes in circulation in Somalia are fake. The last notes were printed by the Central Bank before the collapse of the government in 1991."

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2021/...nk estimates that,to print new currency notes.

A variety of currencies are used in Somalia, including gold and silver.

 

[Into the Night]

I believe Marx is credited with inventing it, not the Social Democrats. IMO, like prostitution, ... it has been around for most of human existence.

Quite right.

Yes, Prince Bismarck. The German or Prussian Monarchy created the world's "first modern welfare State".

I will call this argument 1.

But even in the monarchial feudal system, the King's armies protected the workers and the monarchy gave them a place to live and enough food to subsist.

I will call this argument 2. Paradox. Irrational.

 

[Bigdog]

Nonsense statement.

Marx didn't define 'fascism' or it's concept.

Never said it was.

Mussolini didn't define the concept of 'fascism', though he coined this word.

The concept of fascism predates both.

Fascism is an economic system, based on government manipulation of markets. It can occur with any form of government, but to force it requires a dictatorship or oligarchy.

Which is what I said. You just denied your own argument.

Silicon Valley does not rig elections. Forcing their censorship on their users for political reasons however means they have ALREADY LOST section 230 immunity. They are open to lawsuits for libel now.

Mussolini did not create the concept of fascism. Germany didn't change it either. Fascism is simply fascism. It is government manipulation of markets. Nothing more.

Quite true. As already demonstrated numerous times, the Democrats do not recognize inherent rights or the Constitution of the United States nor any State constitution. They want an oligarchy. They conducted a coup and installed Joe Biden to get it.

There is no such thing as 'National Socialism'. Buzzword fallacy. Socialism does not necessarily require a dictatorship or oligachy, though those two forms of government are required to force it on people that don't want it.

I never said Marx defined fascism.

We're just going to have to disagree on some of these points.

 

[Into the Night]

I never said Marx defined fascism.

Lie.

We're just going to have to disagree on some of these points.

If you want to continue lying and making fallacies and paradoxes, that's your own problem, not mine.

 

[Bigdog]

I never said Marx defined fascism.

Lie.

Then I invite you to provide my original quote as your proof. I'd like to see it.

 

[jbander]

No, you and Marx are idiots. And neither of you know anything about human nature.

"The World Bank estimates that over 98% of the notes in circulation in Somalia are fake. The last notes were printed by the Central Bank before the collapse of the government in 1991."

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2021/...nk estimates that,to print new currency notes.

What Marx knows because I told him is that you have no clue. By the way, Marx was just a person who delt with a economical concept . Like I said, cream puff capitalism is the only way and there is no chance that a capitalistic system will be taken over by socialism . Unless by force or having capitalism being destroyed like is going on this day with the rights thinking they should have and deserve it all. Taking away the one prime tenant that makes capitalism the only way and that is the possibility of the potential to get ahead, Something that was finally destroyed in 1981 when the trickle down lie was implements. And that can't be argued. But bozo boy will try , like I said, it gets more and more fun as he is forced to come up with more and more bullshit.

 

[jbander]

Post Marx's quote here for all to see, ... and your source.

Marx was a twisted sicko. All chiefs and no workers gets you zero production.

I missed this one , his comment above is real close, only 180 degrees from reality. In communism there are no chiefs, only the worker deciding for himself and being pure at heart and mind is able to decider the best way to work and his sound thinking will make it so there is no need for government , money and chiefs because in hi pureness he will be able to decide for him selves and for everyone else also. Like I said 100% backwards as usual , Bozo man is getting further and further away from reality Like I said the right wing hater can't make Communism socialism or Maxism work for them unless they make up their own definition of what the isms mean and bozo has done just that and . As expected to make it work for him, it is bullshit.