Missing the point on mass shootings.

martin said:
The AR 15 is more a temptation-turned-solution than a cause of mass shooting, and it is a cause of the "mass". The victim count would be much less without them assuming there would be a victim count at all if a psychotic loner couldn't enter a school feeling like Rambo.
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really?.....because there are millions of AR-15s compared to a dozen mass shootings a year.........temptation doesn't seem to be that great a problem in the US......
 
Diesel said:
What would they do about tied votes?
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Those decisions default back to the appellant courts decision.

Whose decisions are better decisions than the SCOTUS decisions, these days, since Trump Appointed Republican White Supremacist Christian Activists took over the SCOTUS!

Trump could fuck up a wet dream!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Those decisions default back to the appellant courts decision.

Whose decisions are better decisions than the SCOTUS decisions, these days, since Trump Appointed Republican White Supremacist Christian Activists took over the SCOTUS!

Trump could fuck up a wet dream!
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Then you still need a 6-vote majority to make a decision, which is the same as what it is now. I don't see how a 10-member court changes anything.
 
martin said:
Mass murder with an AR-15 is a crime

Arson with a match is a crime
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Therefore, an AR-15 is like a match.
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a person who tries to kill someone with a gun is like a person who tries to kill someone with a sword is like someone who tries to kill someone by burning a building is like someone who tries to kill someone with a car.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
a person who tries to kill someone with a gun is like a person who tries to kill someone with a sword is like someone who tries to kill someone by burning a building is like someone who tries to kill someone with a car.....
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And a rose is a rose is a rose or, in your case, babble is babble is babble.

An 18 year old with an AR 15 slaughtering 20 fourth graders in their class room is likely a different mental case than that of a forty year old with a handgun taking out a clerk in a convenience store. We are not able to anticipate the
circumstances that will set off either of them. We are not able to disarm the forty year old ahead of time. We are able to disarm the 18 year old by banning the AR 15 or at least banning it from him. If we choose not to do that, okay, but don't say they are the same thing.
 
martin said:
We are not able to anticipate the
circumstances that will set off either of them.
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and yet, we find increasingly we can.......little things like threatening to kill your family........posting online that when you turn 18 you're going to shoot up a school.......you know, subtle hints.......
 
SmarterthanYou said:
that would be the number of people who would violently resist any attempt to infringe on their 2nd Amendment.
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Oh, got it. You're threatening a 14 million veteran army if anyone "attempts to infringe on the 2nd Amendment". You may as well be Stone with a comment like that.
 
martin said:
As can be seen from the criticisms of this observation in the above several posts, this is like trying to explain math to a two year old.
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Most conservatives don't have any functioning brain cells. Math to a two year old might be too generous. I feel like we're trying to teach a fish how to drive a truck. These fucking idiots are beyond help.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if its done with the intent to take life, obviously.......if you can't see the logic in that there is no fucking hope for you.....
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Mmhmm, so according to your "argument", all murder is the same problem. Tell me: What is the solution in common between arson and gun murder?
 
martin said:
And a rose is a rose is a rose or, in your case, babble is babble is babble.

An 18 year old with an AR 15 slaughtering 20 fourth graders in their class room is likely a different mental case than that of a forty year old with a handgun taking out a clerk in a convenience store. We are not able to anticipate the
circumstances that will set off either of them. We are not able to disarm the forty year old ahead of time. We are able to disarm the 18 year old by banning the AR 15 or at least banning it from him. If we choose not to do that, okay, but don't say they are the same thing.
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Guns were way more readily available in the 60s-80s and there weren't many sicko mass shootings. Why is that?

Hell, from the turn of the century until the 90s.

I think the formation of the Dept of Education played a hand in the degeneration of the youth.

It's not a gun problem, it's a people problem.

You got the schools churning out these apathetic quasi-state babies with no discipline ever. Wtf did they think was gonna happen?
 
Diesel said:
Oh, got it. You're threatening a 14 million veteran army if anyone "attempts to infringe on the 2nd Amendment". You may as well be Stone with a comment like that.
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eh, you don't have to like it, but it is still the truth. you would have 14 million heavily armed veterans who would resist..............you're not stopping that.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
and yet, we find increasingly we can.......little things like threatening to kill your family........posting online that when you turn 18 you're going to shoot up a school.......you know, subtle hints.......
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You would be in favor then of an impetuous online comment such as that being sufficient to place the teenager's name on a background list so he would be unable thereafter to buy a gun. So would I.
 
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