Ex-Watergate Prosecutor Says Georgia Probe Is The One That Could 'Send Trump To Jail'

Flash said:
No trend. I never favored Trump on anything just because I disagreed with those who think he can be convicted because they want him convicted. That is a trend toward understanding the law as it has been interpreted, not Trump.

Siding with facts that are not favorable to your views is not the same as supporting that side. The JPP conservatives call me a left-winger and libtard when I disagree with some of their views. The left and right lose their objective view of the facts because their partisan optimism distorts their judgment.
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Well said, flash. Too bad more people don't understand that.
 
Joe Capitalist said:
Well said, flash. Too bad more people don't understand that.
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Thanks. If I say I like Biden's tie the right-wingers claim I am a socialist that voted for Biden three times

If I say Trump did not commit treason based on the meaning of that law and court interpretations the left-wingers claim I am a Trump supporter.

Their reasoning and logic are equally as bad when trying to guess what a person's political views are.
 
Flash said:
No trend. I never favored Trump on anything just because I disagreed with those who think he can be convicted because they want him convicted. That is a trend toward understanding the law as it has been interpreted, not Trump.

Siding with facts that are not favorable to your views is not the same as supporting that side. The JPP conservatives call me a left-winger and libtard when I disagree with some of their views. The left and right lose their objective view of the facts because their partisan optimism distorts their judgment.
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Obviously text is a poor form of communication. There's no winks, handshake or facial expressions to identify friend from foe.

Ergo, I've found it important to choose one's words carefully. Do you agree?

Agreed on the bolded.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Obviously text is a poor form of communication. There's no winks, handshake or facial expressions to identify friend from foe.

Ergo, I've found it important to choose one's words carefully. Do you agree?

Agreed on the bolded.
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True. And readers should read those words for their meaning and not try to make presumptions about the writer's political views because he is not willing to summarily execute Biden or Trump. As in voting and other political views, we often rely on emotion and not intellect. In addition, if the writer does support Biden or Trump, that does not mean his statements are not accurate. Many JPP posters want to reject information because it came from a partisan source even though they cannot point out any inaccuracies in the statement.

We do need a sarcasm font.
 
Flash said:
True. And readers should read those words for their meaning and not try to make presumptions about the writer's political views because he is not willing to summarily execute Biden or Trump. As in voting and other political views, we often rely on emotion and not intellect. In addition, if the writer does support Biden or Trump, that does not mean his statements are not accurate. Many JPP posters want to reject information because it came from a partisan source even though they cannot point out any inaccuracies in the statement.

We do need a sarcasm font.
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First, a single post is often not a good example of a person's total views. It's dozens of posts to start to form a picture about their views.

Second, what they don't say is often as important as what they do say. If a person constantly attacks the Democrats but never the Republicans, it's a fair guess that they favor Republicans.

Agreed that people can be wrong through misunderstanding and, due to that misunderstanding, end up pushing a lie. The 1/6 Committee is pointing this out with Trump; he was told numerous times by his own people that he lost a fair election yet he kept pushing the Big Lie. Same for his fans on JPP.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
First, a single post is often not a good example of a person's total views. It's dozens of posts to start to form a picture about their views.

Second, what they don't say is often as important as what they do say. If a person constantly attacks the Democrats but never the Republicans, it's a fair guess that they favor Republicans.

Agreed that people can be wrong through misunderstanding and, due to that misunderstanding, end up pushing a lie. The 1/6 Committee is pointing this out with Trump; he was told numerous times by his own people that he lost a fair election yet he kept pushing the Big Lie. Same for his fans on JPP.
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Agreed. That is why I challenged those calling me a Trump supporter to show one post that supported or defended Trump. Attacking an inaccurate claim made by Democrats is not the same as attacking Democrats. We have some JPP posters who are extremely critical of all politicians. I have made several arguments that Democrats and Republicans are no different in the methods they use to accomplish their goals (although their goals may differ).
 
Flash said:
Agreed. That is why I challenged those calling me a Trump supporter to show one post that supported or defended Trump. Attacking an inaccurate claim made by Democrats is not the same as attacking Democrats. We have some JPP posters who are extremely critical of all politicians. I have made several arguments that Democrats and Republicans are no different in the methods they use to accomplish their goals (although their goals may differ).
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It is funny how important it is for you to pretend you are not a conservative. Pathetic, really.
 
Flash said:
Agreed. That is why I challenged those calling me a Trump supporter to show one post that supported or defended Trump. Attacking an inaccurate claim made by Democrats is not the same as attacking Democrats. We have some JPP posters who are extremely critical of all politicians. I have made several arguments that Democrats and Republicans are no different in the methods they use to accomplish their goals (although their goals may differ).
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The simple fact Trump conspired to make this happen and then, after stirring up his mob with militia agitators mixed into crowd, he launched them at the Capitol. The evidence shows that he knew it was illegal when he did it but he chose to do it anyway.
Flash said:
Nor did he suggest doing it illegally. I'm sure he didn't care, but that is not proof in a criminal case. For four years the left claimed he was going to jail for that week's. "He is through now".....etc. Mueller, business dealings, IRS, Ukraine, collusion, emoluments, 1st and 2nd impeachment.

We have to beat Trump politically. He is not going to jail.
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Dutch Uncle said:
The simple fact Trump conspired to make this happen and then, after stirring up his mob with militia agitators mixed into crowd, he launched them at the Capitol. The evidence shows that he knew it was illegal when he did it but he chose to do it anyway.
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Then there should be no problem prosecuting and convicting him.

What evidence shows he knew it was illegal when he did it? What specific act was illegal and what element of what law does it violate?

Check the case history of what "stirring up a crowd" requires. If I tell a crowd I want you to meet here in the morning and attack the Capitol and they do it, I did nothing illegal.
 
Flash said:
Then there should be no problem prosecuting and convicting him.

What evidence shows he knew it was illegal when he did it? What specific act was illegal and what element of what law does it violate?

Check the case history of what "stirring up a crowd" requires. If I tell a crowd I want you to meet here in the morning and attack the Capitol and they do it, I did nothing illegal.
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Agreed in a fair justice system. However, on the Federal level, this is very political. Most Republicans still believe the election was rigged. They've bragged repeatedly about dismissing everything when they retake Congress in November. Is that justice? No, it isn't.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed in a fair justice system. However, on the Federal level, this is very political. Most Republicans still believe the election was rigged. They've bragged repeatedly about dismissing everything when they retake Congress in November. Is that justice? No, it isn't.
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Controlling Congress does not give them power to dismiss federal prosecution cases. The committee just investigates and cannot bring charges. It should be able to finish any planned work by January.
 
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