US COVID Failure

goat said:
We can't lockdown workers for 2 years and expect good things to follow.
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Strange, Europe locked down harder, and worse from the Black Death, and great things followed. A great rethinking is actually very good for the economy... in the long run. Then again, in the long run we will all be dead, so who cares.

In fairness, I have the feeling that everything that is happening would have happened without the pandemic. Maybe it moved stuff up, but automation was going to push this stuff anyway. The mass resignations were going to happen, just slower.
 
Walt said:
Strange, Europe locked down harder, and worse from the Black Death, and great things followed. A great rethinking is actually very good for the economy... in the long run. Then again, in the long run we will all be dead, so who cares.

In fairness, I have the feeling that everything that is happening would have happened without the pandemic. Maybe it moved stuff up, but automation was going to push this stuff anyway. The mass resignations were going to happen, just slower.
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Too easy a life just destroys people, just look at the moderns.

This however will not be a problem for Americans going forwards.
 
Walt said:
Strange, Europe locked down harder, and worse from the Black Death, and great things followed. A great rethinking is actually very good for the economy... in the long run. Then again, in the long run we will all be dead, so who cares.

In fairness, I have the feeling that everything that is happening would have happened without the pandemic. Maybe it moved stuff up, but automation was going to push this stuff anyway. The mass resignations were going to happen, just slower.
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Half of Europe died from the plague. Covid isn't that much different than the flu. Covid lockdowns were politically motivated for the largest transfer of wealth to the top than any other time in history. Europe paid their workers close to 80% of their salary during the lockdown.

You just admitted that the 2020 crash had nothing to do with covid. All that free money for billionaires did nothing to fix the problem.
 
goat said:
Half of Europe died from the plague. Covid isn't that much different than the flu. Covid lockdowns were politically motivated for the largest transfer of wealth to the top than any other time in history. Europe paid their workers close to 80% of their salary during the lockdown.

You just admitted that the 2020 crash had nothing to do with covid. All that free money for billionaires did nothing to fix the problem.
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I encourage you to take SARS-COV2 more seriously. First of all we have not been allowed to know how it is made and is is very strange and it attacks almost all parts of the body. Also we might have really fucked ourselves with the idiotic Max Vax Program. And it is acting very strange as it mutates and infects.

This might be a mass killer one day.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I encourage you to take SARS-COV2 more seriously. First of all we have not been allowed to know how it is made and is is very strange and it attacks almost all parts of the body. Also we might have really fucked ourselves with the idiotic Max Vax Program. And it is acting very strange as it mutates and infects.

This might be a mass killer one day.
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Vitamin D3 alone will minimize covid. The DarkHorse Podcast should've told you that.
 
BTW re D even now for it to work you need something like 50-60 ng/ml blood level, which is a lot of D, very few people have it.

Going forwards it might or might not work.

SARS-COV2 is evolving.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
BTW re D even now for it to work you need something like 50-60 ng/ml blood level, which is a lot of D, very few people have it.

Going forwards it might or might not work.

SARS-COV2 is evolving.
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You don't need that much vitamin D if your vitamin C and zinc levels are good.
 
goat said:
You don't need that much vitamin D if your vitamin C and zinc levels are good.
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You do understand that there is a suspicion that those who took the jabs are seeing our immune systems degrade each time we see SARS-COV2 right? Who knows if D will stay effective, you sure cant count on it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
You do understand that there is a suspicion that those who took the jabs are seeing our immune systems degrade each time we see SARS-COV2 right? Who knows if D will stay effective, you sure cant count on it.
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I watch DarkHorse. The goal is to keep your immune system up and avoid government hysteria.
 
goat said:
Half of Europe died from the plague. Covid isn't that much different than the flu. Covid lockdowns were politically motivated for the largest transfer of wealth to the top than any other time in history. Europe paid their workers close to 80% of their salary during the lockdown.

You just admitted that the 2020 crash had nothing to do with covid. All that free money for billionaires did nothing to fix the problem.
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"Covid wasn't much different than the flu"? Hawkeye10, almost a million have died from it right here in America.

You're just running on idiot fumes right now. I love speech, but you don't say anything. You're being here is offensive.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
I encourage you to take SARS-COV2 more seriously. First of all we have not been allowed to know how it is made and is is very strange and it attacks almost all parts of the body. Also we might have really fucked ourselves with the idiotic Max Vax Program. And it is acting very strange as it mutates and infects.

This might be a mass killer one day.
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Have you ever made sense once? I mean even donny twump looks at the way YOU riff racist stuff and says, "dude, take it down a notch!".
 
goat said:
Vitamin D3 alone will minimize covid. The DarkHorse Podcast should've told you that.
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Oh, the DarkHorse Podcast. So fuck my doctor, I'm going to get all my medical care and advice from a podcast! Hawkeye10.. you are adorable.
 
Mina said:
Most people don't grasp the sheer magnitude of the US's failure when it comes to COVID. When you look at how many extra deaths we've had, during the pandemic, versus what we would have expected given pre-pandemic mortality rates, it makes so many other things we worry about look trivial -- like a rounding error in the big picture. Whether we're talking school shootings or terrorism or war deaths, so much of what we fret about just doesn't come close.

Over a period of this length, we should have had about 6.5 million deaths, based on pre-pandemic mortality rates. Instead, we've had about 7.6 million. That 1.1 million extra deaths, thanks to COVID, is 17% mortality elevation. Much of that was avoidable. Japan and Germany, the next two biggest wealthy nations, had excess deaths of 0% and 4%, respectively. Canada, arguably the nation that's closest to us in terms of level of isolation and cultural issues, had 3%. Even within the US, some individual states managed to have much lower mortality elevation, despite dense populations and little isolation, like Massachusetts at a little under 8%.

So, think about what that would mean if we, as a nation, had managed to do as well as Canada.... or even just Massachusetts. We'd be talking about a death toll somewhere between 200,000 and 500,000, instead of 1.1 million. Thus, we can say the cost of our failure, was something like 750,000 extra deaths.

Now, compare that to the kinds of issues we spend so much time discussing (and remember, I'm not counting all COVID deaths... just those we could realistically have avoided merely by performing on par with most advanced societies.)

Wars? 7,051 US soldiers died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined. That's not even a week's worth of COVID deaths. In fact, you could add all the Americans killed in every war in our history, other than the Civil War, and not reach 750,000. Think about that: Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI, the Spanish-American War, the Mexican War, 1812, the Revolutionary War, countless Indian Wars and police actions, all totaled, and still fewer dead than than the mortality caused by our incompetence in handling COVID.

Terrorism? Well, our extra COVID death toll is like suffering a 9/11 attack every single month for 20 straight years. Every four days or so, on average, our incompetent handling of COVID was killing more Americans than all the terrorist attacks in history combined.

School shootings? At the current rate of school homicides (36/year), the 750,000 who needlessly died because we botched COVID response is like nearly 21,000 years of such school massacres.
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Actually, vote blue wave for the following reasons:

Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls
May 19, 20225:00 AM ET
1 million deaths: the story of two pandemics
Death rates from COVID-19 in Trump-voting counties remain far above heavily Biden counties since the beginning of 2021.
Even with widely available vaccines and newly effective treatments, residents of counties that went heavily for Donald Trump in the last presidential election are more than twice as likely to die from COVID-19 than those that live in areas that went for President Biden. That's according to a newly-updated analysis from NPR, examining how partisanship and misinformation are shaping the pandemic."

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/19/1098...ntinue-to-suffer-far-higher-covid-death-tolls
 
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