Frustrated with police inaction, Border Patrol Unit killed the shooter unilaterally

Nuremberg trials is not a "Godwin's Law violation. It's history. We learn history so we are not doomed to repeat it. Would you feel better if I bring up another examples?

Now, if you were a cop, would you ignore the order and try to get in the school? Keep in mind that the 19 cops were already in the school. Also would you have prevented and/or even handcuffed and tasered parents? Keep in mind that a woman escaped the police custody, jumped over a fence to save her two sons.

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It invokes Hitler and or the Nazis inappropriately. Uvalde is hardly a case of "war crimes." It is a case of bureaucratic incompetence.
 
Other than the Godwin's Law violation, it may not work here either. I'm just pointing out that much of the police response that was fucked up was due to bureaucratic inertia. It isn't a matter of "I was just following orders..." so much as it was one of management being unwilling to make a decision without perfect information and following every procedure they had in place. Like I said, I've seen this mentality repeatedly in big bureaucracies and government agencies are particularly at fault for this sort of mindset.

i suppose you can call secret orders to stand down "inertia". but you should feel bad about doing it.
 
It invokes Hitler and or the Nazis inappropriately. Uvalde is hardly a case of "war crimes." It is a case of bureaucratic incompetence.

No it is not inappropriate. The "I was ordered" is not a valid argument as you are trying to make it out to be.

Now answer my question.
 
Nuremberg trials is not a "Godwin's Law violation. It's history. We learn history so we are not doomed to repeat it. Would you feel better if I bring up another examples?

Now, if you were a cop, would you ignore the order and try to get in the school? Keep in mind that the 19 cops were already in the school. Also would you have prevented and/or even handcuffed and tasered parents? Keep in mind that a woman escaped the police custody, jumped over a fence to save her two sons.

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they should arrest this vigilante. do you agree?
 
So, the rank and file officers should just ignore their chain of command whenever it's inconvenient for them hum?

Yes when it comes to children being killed. Should firefighters follow orders not to enter a burning building where there are children inside?
 
Yes when it comes to children being killed. Should firefighters follow orders not to enter a burning building where there are children inside?

So, you expect them to have perfect knowledge of the whole situation and be clairvoyant enough to predict future events with perfect accuracy hum? Should firefighters enter a burning building to rescue people when it's obvious it's about to collapse and they'd be killed in the attempt? Should officers charge in to be shot and killed then the shooter goes back to killing innocents?

Hindsight is 20-20, foresight is far harder to get right.
 
when childrens lives are at stake and command has it's head up its ass, yes....

they can refer to their oath if they are questioned.

The problem with that is, Does the rank and file know this or not? What if what they know is that the bad guy is barricaded and there are no lives at immediate risk?
 
So, you expect them to have perfect knowledge of the whole situation and be clairvoyant enough to predict future events with perfect accuracy hum? Should firefighters enter a burning building to rescue people when it's obvious it's about to collapse and they'd be killed in the attempt? Should officers charge in to be shot and killed then the shooter goes back to killing innocents?

Hindsight is 20-20, foresight is far harder to get right.

And yet a parent was able to get her two sons out just fine.

It seems that you have never had children.
 
And yet a parent was able to get her two sons out just fine.

It seems that you have never had children.

And what if that parent ended up shot and killed instead? Just because it worked for that parent doesn't mean it would work every time, or even most of the time.
 
And what if that parent ended up shot and killed instead? Just because it worked for that parent doesn't mean it would work every time, or even most of the time.

So? Remember that those cops were able to rescue their children. So they DID know the situation. No clue why you are defending those POSs.
 
The problem with that is, Does the rank and file know this or not? What if what they know is that the bad guy is barricaded and there are no lives at immediate risk?

they were in the hall. they knew.

like has been pointed out to you already, just doing your job is no excuse for being a human fukup.
 
And what if that parent ended up shot and killed instead? Just because it worked for that parent doesn't mean it would work every time, or even most of the time.

rescuing is risky business.

sometimes policy and chain of command needs to be abandoned.

are you deep state?
 
So, you expect them to have perfect knowledge of the whole situation and be clairvoyant enough to predict future events with perfect accuracy hum? Should firefighters enter a burning building to rescue people when it's obvious it's about to collapse and they'd be killed in the attempt? Should officers charge in to be shot and killed then the shooter goes back to killing innocents?

Hindsight is 20-20, foresight is far harder to get right.

fucko.

they were in the hall hearing children getting intermittentlly murdered, knowing there were kids inside in need of urgent medical attention.

wtf is wrong with you.?
 
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