Why is McCarthy blaming doors?

PostmodernProphet said:
this is why we consider you fuckwits......if there is a single letter different you pretend you're in the right.......find me someone on this thread who's been willing to admit the door should have been locked........someone who isn't a mindless lib'rul.....
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For the rational, objective and intellectually honest reader with a high school G.E.D., here's the entirety of what our resident Post Modern Fool can't deal with from the previous post:

Okay, let's try this again:

In post #82 , you stated, " its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked.... "

And I asked you above to copy and paste where I or anyone else stated EXACTLY such. Clearly, you pathetic grasp of reading comprehension has you trying to promote your personal interpretation as a literal translation. Get a high school English teacher to explain your failure to you.

Once again, you demonstrate either sheer ignorance, stupidity or insipidly stubborn & poor propaganda tactics. As YOU display, your original statement is making a moot point the focus of prevention for the event. All I did was point out that your scenario is based on a preposterous assumption that then shooter would have just walked away from any other attempt to enter the school (shooting off the lock, entering through the front or a possible side window). No, you can't walk through a locked door (no one, including myself, said otherwise), but you sure as hell can shoot off the locks and kick it in. Capice'? Neither I or anyone else said the security door should not have been locked, either.

So once again, your piss poor troll tactics fail...parroting the sheer desperate, straw grasping stupidity of gun flunkies to detract from the FACT that an 18 year old bought two formerly banned assault rifles and a butt load of ammo to commit his crime.....THAT could have been prevented IF Abbott had NOT lowered the legal age from 21, or the right wingers let the 1994 AWB sunset.

Now, show us all how incredibly dim you are to repeat your moot point and faux insinuation.

The PMF is doing EXACTLY what I said he would....he doesn't have the brain capacity to do anything else. With every real world, fact based debunking of right wing talking points, trolls like PMF just go into dumb parrot mode, as the chronology of the posts shows here. They somehow think that insipid stubbornness "wins" their point of view, assertions and allegations....that and the the last repetitive word.

Once I reduce these clowns to this level, I just dump them back on the Ignore list and watch them dog my posts/threads like a bitch in heat.
 
Taichiliberal said:
For the rational, objective and intellectually honest reader with a high school G.E.D., here's the entirety of what our resident Post Modern Fool can't deal with from the previous post:

Okay, let's try this again:

In post #82 , you stated, " its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked.... "

And I asked you above to copy and paste where I or anyone else stated EXACTLY such. Clearly, you pathetic grasp of reading comprehension has you trying to promote your personal interpretation as a literal translation. Get a high school English teacher to explain your failure to you.

Once again, you demonstrate either sheer ignorance, stupidity or insipidly stubborn & poor propaganda tactics. As YOU display, your original statement is making a moot point the focus of prevention for the event. All I did was point out that your scenario is based on a preposterous assumption that then shooter would have just walked away from any other attempt to enter the school (shooting off the lock, entering through the front or a possible side window). No, you can't walk through a locked door (no one, including myself, said otherwise), but you sure as hell can shoot off the locks and kick it in. Capice'? Neither I or anyone else said the security door should not have been locked, either.

So once again, your piss poor troll tactics fail...parroting the sheer desperate, straw grasping stupidity of gun flunkies to detract from the FACT that an 18 year old bought two formerly banned assault rifles and a butt load of ammo to commit his crime.....THAT could have been prevented IF Abbott had NOT lowered the legal age from 21, or the right wingers let the 1994 AWB sunset.

Now, show us all how incredibly dim you are to repeat your moot point and faux insinuation.

The PMF is doing EXACTLY what I said he would....he doesn't have the brain capacity to do anything else. With every real world, fact based debunking of right wing talking points, trolls like PMF just go into dumb parrot mode, as the chronology of the posts shows here. They somehow think that insipid stubbornness "wins" their point of view, assertions and allegations....that and the the last repetitive word.

Once I reduce these clowns to this level, I just dump them back on the Ignore list and watch them dog my posts/threads like a bitch in heat.
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He's an intellectual cesspool. The only rewarding thing for a liberal here is the generally poor quality of the other side. Real debate seldom happens, seldom is possible.
 
Taichiliberal said:
For the rational, objective and intellectually honest reader with a high school G.E.D., here's the entirety of what our resident Post Modern Fool can't deal with from the previous post:

Okay, let's try this again:

In post #82 , you stated, " its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked.... "

And I asked you above to copy and paste where I or anyone else stated EXACTLY such. Clearly, you pathetic grasp of reading comprehension has you trying to promote your personal interpretation as a literal translation. Get a high school English teacher to explain your failure to you.

Once again, you demonstrate either sheer ignorance, stupidity or insipidly stubborn & poor propaganda tactics. As YOU display, your original statement is making a moot point the focus of prevention for the event. All I did was point out that your scenario is based on a preposterous assumption that then shooter would have just walked away from any other attempt to enter the school (shooting off the lock, entering through the front or a possible side window). No, you can't walk through a locked door (no one, including myself, said otherwise), but you sure as hell can shoot off the locks and kick it in. Capice'? Neither I or anyone else said the security door should not have been locked, either.

So once again, your piss poor troll tactics fail...parroting the sheer desperate, straw grasping stupidity of gun flunkies to detract from the FACT that an 18 year old bought two formerly banned assault rifles and a butt load of ammo to commit his crime.....THAT could have been prevented IF Abbott had NOT lowered the legal age from 21, or the right wingers let the 1994 AWB sunset.

Now, show us all how incredibly dim you are to repeat your moot point and faux insinuation.

The PMF is doing EXACTLY what I said he would....he doesn't have the brain capacity to do anything else. With every real world, fact based debunking of right wing talking points, trolls like PMF just go into dumb parrot mode, as the chronology of the posts shows here. They somehow think that insipid stubbornness "wins" their point of view, assertions and allegations....that and the the last repetitive word.

Once I reduce these clowns to this level, I just dump them back on the Ignore list and watch them dog my posts/threads like a bitch in heat.
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we've already covered the fact that the assumption you claim I made is the exact opposite of the statement I actually made....
so you still can't just admit the security door should have been locked.....
 
ExpressLane said:
44 year and 8.5 million people in a terrorist plague country i a HUGE sample.
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No, it's a small sample, given how rare school shootings are. Consider:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...ZuXO5gZVBbyIHBUBQ8vOgDhjxTiVDNEj1XFFvWFDX9gKg

Over 23 years, when the US population averaged around 285 million, we had 363 fatal school shooting deaths. So, it's around 16 per year, average, or around one for every 18 million per year. With an population of about 6.5 million aver the last 44 years, we might expect about 0.36 school shooting deaths per year in Israel, even if they were keeping pace with the US, which is the first world's leader in gun violence by a vast margin. That would be about 16 total over 44 years.... you could get twice that in a single incident (Blacksburg had 33). Israel could go from well below the US average to well above with a single incident. So, as you can see it's such a small sample size that it's basically just statistical noise.
 
Mina said:
No, it's a small sample, given how rare school shootings are. Consider:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...ZuXO5gZVBbyIHBUBQ8vOgDhjxTiVDNEj1XFFvWFDX9gKg

Over 23 years, when the US population averaged around 285 million, we had 363 fatal school shooting deaths. So, it's around 16 per year, average, or around one for every 18 million per year. With an population of about 6.5 million aver the last 44 years, we might expect about 0.36 school shooting deaths per year in Israel, even if they were keeping pace with the US, which is the first world's leader in gun violence by a vast margin. That would be about 16 total over 44 years.... you could get twice that in a single incident (Blacksburg had 33). Israel could go from well below the US average to well above with a single incident. So, as you can see it's such a small sample size that it's basically just statistical noise.
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Your math is flawed Israel has had 10 students killed in 44 years. The US has had by your numbers 363 in 21 years. You do the math assuming the same rate in of deaths in the US it would be around 760 in 44 years. That is a rate of 2.7 per million during that 44 year period. Israel has lost 10 student in that same 44 years. That is a rate of 1.17 per million in 44 years.
 
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ExpressLane said:
Your math is flawed
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No. If you look again, it's 23 years, not 21. So, 15.78 per year, in the US, spread over an average population of 285 million. That's about one death for every 18 million person-years. With Israel averaging 6.5 million people for 44 years, that's 286 person-years. Divided by 18 million person-years per death, that's approximately 16 deaths we'd expect there over those 44 years, if they were keeping pace with the US (the hall-of-shame champ in this field). Instead, they're at 10. So, as I said, a single event (20 or 30 dead) could easily push them from a little below the US average to well above it, which shows how the sample size is too small to be meaningful.
 
Mina said:
No. If you look again, it's 23 years, not 21. So, 15.78 per year, in the US, spread over an average population of 285 million. That's about one death for every 18 million person-years. With Israel averaging 6.5 million people for 44 years, that's 286 person-years. Divided by 18 million person-years per death, that's approximately 16 deaths we'd expect there over those 44 years, if they were keeping pace with the US (the hall-of-shame champ in this field). Instead, they're at 10. So, as I said, a single event (20 or 30 dead) could easily push them from a little below the US average to well above it, which shows how the sample size is too small to be meaningful.
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Your math is still screwed up and still they are well below the US average. So you lose chump. :laugh:
 
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PostmodernProphet said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
For the rational, objective and intellectually honest reader with a high school G.E.D., here's the entirety of what our resident Post Modern Fool can't deal with from the previous post:




Okay, let's try this again:

In post #82 , you stated, " its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked.... "

And I asked you above to copy and paste where I or anyone else stated EXACTLY such. Clearly, you pathetic grasp of reading comprehension has you trying to promote your personal interpretation as a literal translation. Get a high school English teacher to explain your failure to you.

Once again, you demonstrate either sheer ignorance, stupidity or insipidly stubborn & poor propaganda tactics. As YOU display, your original statement is making a moot point the focus of prevention for the event. All I did was point out that your scenario is based on a preposterous assumption that then shooter would have just walked away from any other attempt to enter the school (shooting off the lock, entering through the front or a possible side window). No, you can't walk through a locked door (no one, including myself, said otherwise), but you sure as hell can shoot off the locks and kick it in. Capice'? Neither I or anyone else said the security door should not have been locked, either.

So once again, your piss poor troll tactics fail...parroting the sheer desperate, straw grasping stupidity of gun flunkies to detract from the FACT that an 18 year old bought two formerly banned assault rifles and a butt load of ammo to commit his crime.....THAT could have been prevented IF Abbott had NOT lowered the legal age from 21, or the right wingers let the 1994 AWB sunset.

Now, show us all how incredibly dim you are to repeat your moot point and faux insinuation.

The PMF is doing EXACTLY what I said he would....he doesn't have the brain capacity to do anything else. With every real world, fact based debunking of right wing talking points, trolls like PMF just go into dumb parrot mode, as the chronology of the posts shows here. They somehow think that insipid stubbornness "wins" their point of view, assertions and allegations....that and the the last repetitive word.

Once I reduce these clowns to this level, I just dump them back on the Ignore list and watch them dog my posts/threads like a bitch in heat.
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we've already covered the fact that the assumption you claim I made is the exact opposite of the statement I actually made....
so you still can't just admit the security door should have been locked.....
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Let me dumb it down for you:

The chronology of the posts makes you out to be a liar and a stubborn fool.

Now, follow me and rant away my little bitch. Onto the ignore list you go.
 
guno said:
The shoot was known to be inside the school or 75 minutes , shit for brains
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The Republican Taliban, I see them on TV.. talking about hardening schools and video games and godless Democrats, being the cause of those teachers and poor babies deaths.

The truth is, Greg Abbott, with his non-existent gun laws put those weapons in Ramos' hands. Abbott might as well have pulled the trigger himself, the demon. Did you see his bullshit press conferences where he praised the Uvalde cops' bravery then ran away like the little cowardly bitch he is.

Abbott had better watch his back in TX. Seriously, there are a lot of parents with kids like those 19 looking at him right now. Tik, tik, asshole.
 
So the much bally-hooed right wing talking point regarding the "unlocked back door" has been clarified and essentially debunked

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/31/1102316313/texas-uvalde-teacher-door-open-closed

Of course I don't expect our local MAGA wonks to change their squawking one bit....they'll just alter it to a "most likely" scenario topped with a "would've, could've, should've, might-have-been" blather.

All this to avoid the FACTS that the shooter bought 2 assault weapons under the revised law of the GOP governor, and those weapons were previously on the 1994 AWB list. Pathetic.
 
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