Why is McCarthy blaming doors?

Taichiliberal said:
Anyone can just clik back on the chronology of the posts and see what a bald faced liar this Post Modern Fool is. He did EXACTLY as I said he would, even just excerpting parts my previous response to attach his blather to.

Rather than just admit that the whole "lock door" mantra of the right wing gun flunkies in the media and Congress is at best a lame dodge from the true issue of gun control, trolls like our Post Modern Fool establish their false narrative and ride it to the bitter end.

They care not of others deaths, the deaths of children...it's their ideology that only matters. And they'll just repeat the SOS and deny how illogical it is when facing facts ad nausea. Sad, but not unexpected. Let's watch this dummy do his dance.
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odd the mindless fool wants people to go back and read what I said, since they will discover I am right and he's a fuck up....its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Anyone can just clik back on the chronology of the posts and see what a bald faced liar this Post Modern Fool is. He did EXACTLY as I said he would, even just excerpting parts my previous response to attach his blather to.

Rather than just admit that the whole "lock door" mantra of the right wing gun flunkies in the media and Congress is at best a lame dodge from the true issue of gun control, trolls like our Post Modern Fool establish their false narrative and ride it to the bitter end.

They care not of others deaths, the deaths of children...it's their ideology that only matters. And they'll just repeat the SOS and deny how illogical it is when facing facts ad nausea. Sad, but not unexpected. Let's watch this dummy do his dance.
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odd the mindless fool wants people to go back and read what I said, since they will discover I am right and he's a fuck up....its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked....
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Please copy and paste the EXACT sentence(s) and/or link the post where I or anyone in stated in no uncertain terms EXACTLY as you accuse. If you can't that just exposes yet another right wing troll lie of yours. If you can't, then my previous post stands and you solidify your place as a Post Modern Fool of right wing trolls.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Please copy and paste the EXACT sentence(s) and/or link the post where I or anyone in stated in no uncertain terms EXACTLY as you accuse. If you can't that just exposes yet another right wing troll lie of yours. If you can't, then my previous post stands and you solidify your place as a Post Modern Fool of right wing trolls.
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okay......right here.....
Taichiliberal said:
Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
the shooter entered the school through a door that was supposed to have been locked.....obviously a locked door would have been the answer.....
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And if the door was locked, he would have said "oh fudge, guess I'll just go home and wait for the cops about shooting grandma".
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this is exactly what I accused you of saying.......you obviously have a short memory......

you couldn't admit that locking the door would have kept him from entering through it.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Please copy and paste the EXACT sentence(s) and/or link the post where I or anyone in stated in no uncertain terms EXACTLY as you accuse. If you can't that just exposes yet another right wing troll lie of yours. If you can't, then my previous post stands and you solidify your place as a Post Modern Fool of right wing trolls.
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okay......right here.....
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet
the shooter entered the school through a door that was supposed to have been locked.....obviously a locked door would have been the answer.....
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And if the door was locked, he would have said "oh fudge, guess I'll just go home and wait for the cops about shooting grandma".
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this is exactly what I accused you of saying.......you obviously have a short memory......

you couldn't admit that locking the door would have kept him from entering through it.....
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:palm: Okay, let's try this again:

In post #82 , you stated, " its sad that you idiots can't admit that a security door should have been locked.... "

And I asked you above to copy and paste where I or anyone else stated EXACTLY such. Clearly, you pathetic grasp of reading comprehension has you trying to promote your personal interpretation as a literal translation. Get a high school English teacher to explain your failure to you.

Once again, you demonstrate either sheer ignorance, stupidity or insipidly stubborn & poor propaganda tactics. As YOU display, your original statement is making a moot point the focus of prevention for the event. All I did was point out that your scenario is based on a preposterous assumption that then shooter would have just walked away from any other attempt to enter the school (shooting off the lock, entering through the front or a possible side window). No, you can't walk through a locked door (no one, including myself, said otherwise), but you sure as hell can shoot off the locks and kick it in. Capice'? Neither I or anyone else said the security door should not have been locked, either.

So once again, your piss poor troll tactics fail...parroting the sheer desperate, straw grasping stupidity of gun flunkies to detract from the FACT that an 18 year old bought two formerly banned assault rifles and a butt load of ammo to commit his crime.....THAT could have been prevented IF Abbott had NOT lowered the legal age from 21, or the right wingers let the 1994 AWB sunset.

Now, show us all how incredibly dim you are to repeat your moot point and faux insinuation.
 
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Jarod said:
When asked today on Faux News what his plan is to reduce violence in our schools….

His answer was that schools should repurpose COVID money to reduce the amount of doors.
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The more public schools resemble prisons the more Republicans will find them appealing.
 
martin said:
The more public schools resemble prisons the more Republicans will find them appealing.
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Its already a problem, just four years ago I was allowed to go in and have lunch with my kids and their friends, now you can check your kid out and have lunch in your car in the parking lot, but not inside.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
this is why we consider you fuckwits......if there is a single letter different you pretend you're in the right.......find me someone on this thread who's been willing to admit the door should have been locked........someone who isn't a mindless lib'rul.....
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The door should have been locked, and it takes a mindless fuckwit to believe that a school door lock rule is all you sensibly need before enabling eighteen year olds across the nation to buy themselves guns.

Apart from that, schools shouldn't need locks to prevent kids from getting slaughtered. The idea is actually obscene. Schools should be free and open places. We alone give that up in trade for guns-for-everyone.
 
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martin said:
The more public schools resemble prisons the more Republicans will find them appealing.
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martin that is just hyperbolic rhetoric. You keep your doors closed and locked and look before you open your doors to strangers don’t you. We should do the same at schools. Stop being a Drama Queen
 
ExpressLane said:
Jarod the is just hyperbolic rhetoric. You keep your doors closed and locked and look before you open your doors to strangers don’t you. We should do the same at schools. Stop being a Drama Queen
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I do not keep my doors locked during the day. back doors kept open.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Anyone with an assault weapon could circumvent a door and someone guarding it.
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Yes. The issue with guns is they give an almost insurmountable edge to the aggressor. Like take the example of Chris Kyle -- one of the most skilled gunmen in the world. When he was killed, he had a loaded weapon on him, and an armed and well-trained friend at his side, and both of them were gunned down by a nut job before they could even unholster their weapons.... even though they were both aware that the person who ended up killing them was straight up nuts, and they were on their guard. No matter how skilled and armed and alert you are, you're a half second from being dead if someone with a gun wants to kill you. And that's going to be the case with armed guards at school entrances. If all you've got in one guy with a gun, anyone will be able to walk up and kill him before he can even unholster his weapons.

To meaningfully defend these schools by way of armed guards and secured entryways, you would need several guards, and multiple secured entrances in sequence (so you can lock down the second door if there's an attack on the first), similar to what you see at secure government facilities, prisons, and the like. But at that point it's impractical and uneconomical.
 
ExpressLane said:
martin that is just hyperbolic rhetoric. You keep your doors closed and locked and look before you open your doors to strangers don’t you. We should do the same at schools. Stop being a Drama Queen
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It's real life and real death not a drama, shit head. Public schools were free and open places until recently. This is the only Western country where they no longer are, and it is entirely unnecessary.
 
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martin said:
It's real life and real death not a drama, shit head. Public schools were free and open places until recently. This is the only Western country where they no longer are, and it is entirely unnecessary.
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When I was kid we brought shotguns and semi auto rifles to school in gun racks in our trucks. Guns were readily available. Guns are the same people change. It’s time for you to grow up and realize that shooters attack school because they are soft targets. You lock your doors and look before you open doors don’t you? Banks secure access and use armed personnel. Kids are more valuable than money. Times change , now we need to harder the target. Those few extra minutes will give time for law enforcement to arrive on scene . It’s time for you to wake up shithead.
 
Mina said:
Yes. The issue with guns is they give an almost insurmountable edge to the aggressor. Like take the example of Chris Kyle -- one of the most skilled gunmen in the world. When he was killed, he had a loaded weapon on him, and an armed and well-trained friend at his side, and both of them were gunned down by a nut job before they could even unholster their weapons.... even though they were both aware that the person who ended up killing them was straight up nuts, and they were on their guard. No matter how skilled and armed and alert you are, you're a half second from being dead if someone with a gun wants to kill you. And that's going to be the case with armed guards at school entrances. If all you've got in one guy with a gun, anyone will be able to walk up and kill him before he can even unholster his weapons.

To meaningfully defend these schools by way of armed guards and secured entryways, you would need several guards, and multiple secured entrances in sequence (so you can lock down the second door if there's an attack on the first), similar to what you see at secure government facilities, prisons, and the like. But at that point it's impractical and uneconomical.
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Israel has had two school shootings in 44 years both shooters killed by armed teachers.
 
ExpressLane said:
When I was kid we brought shotguns and semi auto rifles to school in gun racks in our trucks. Guns were readily available. Guns are the same people change. It’s time for you to grow up and realize that shooters attack school because they are soft targets. You lock your doors and look before you open doors don’t you? Banks secure access and use armed personnel. Kids are more valuable than money. Times change , now we need to harder the target. Those few extra minutes will give time for law enforcement to arrive on scene . It’s time for you to wake up shithead.
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Just like dynamite, in the wrong hands is a public safety concern

Just like hand grenades- in the wrong hands- is a public safety concern.

What supersedes your concerns about school security, is the root cause of all of these school shootings- THE FACT THAT GUNS WERE IN THE WRONG HANDS TO BEGIN WITH.

The age of the perpetrators of most of these school shootings is 17-18 years old. And there are 269 cases, in just the last 9 years, of these mass school shootings by 18 or under teenagers to use as facts to back up what I just said. And Teenagers can always purchase guns, loan them out to friends, arrange for their underage friends to use them with no questions asked.

So, one thing that must be looked at is, AT least, raising the age of being able to purchase a gun to 21 years of age.

BUT NO! YOU GUNTARDS THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR 18 YEAR OLDS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE ASSAULT RIFLES IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN SCHOOL SHOOTINGS.

So, you are off point, and on the wrong side of the issues.

Teenagers should not be allowed to purchase guns anymore than they should be allowed to purchase hand grenades!

One thing that seems to be common among mass school shootings are the killers with school age problems that deal with Bullying, opposite sex issues, parental issues, drug related issues, authority issues, racial hatred, and jealousy. By the time a person becomes 21, they may still have these same mental issues they are dealing with- BUT THEY DON'T TARGET SCHOOLS- THEY TAKE THEIR VIOLENT ACTS ELSEWHERE!

My concerns are, first and foremost, the school shootings and trying to save the innocent children at this point! We need to address this first and foremost!

We can always have the debate about whether anyone should own an assault weapon- in the first place- at another time and place. AND TRUST ME, THE SUBJECT WILL BE DEBATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN UNTIL THE PUBLIC FEELS LIKE WE HAVE MADE SOME KIND OF PROGRESS IN KEEPING INNOCENT PEOPLE SAFE FROM GUNS!

You can continue to do the REPUBLICAN/NRA/TRUMPTARDed Monkey Dance around the problems our society has with the easy availability to weapons of mass shootings and deaths- Or start using your common sense- IF YOU HAVE ANY!

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Mina said:
Yes. The issue with guns is they give an almost insurmountable edge to the aggressor. Like take the example of Chris Kyle -- one of the most skilled gunmen in the world. When he was killed, he had a loaded weapon on him, and an armed and well-trained friend at his side, and both of them were gunned down by a nut job before they could even unholster their weapons.... even though they were both aware that the person who ended up killing them was straight up nuts, and they were on their guard. No matter how skilled and armed and alert you are, you're a half second from being dead if someone with a gun wants to kill you. And that's going to be the case with armed guards at school entrances. If all you've got in one guy with a gun, anyone will be able to walk up and kill him before he can even unholster his weapons.

To meaningfully defend these schools by way of armed guards and secured entryways, you would need several guards, and multiple secured entrances in sequence (so you can lock down the second door if there's an attack on the first), similar to what you see at secure government facilities, prisons, and the like. But at that point it's impractical and uneconomical.
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it's also why my daughter can defend herself against a much larger man that intends to violate her
 
zymurgy said:
it's also why my daughter can defend herself against a much larger man that intends to violate her
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Unfortunately, a much larger man with the intent to violate her won't be stopped by that gun, because unless she has it drawn and ready, he can simply take it from her -- making it easier to violate her (and more likely to end with her dead). There have been a number of studies on this, and they just don't come out the way the gun enthusiasts were hoping.

https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...n-the-house-doesnt-make-a-woman-safer/284022/
https://www.thetrace.org/2016/05/gun-ownership-makes-women-safer-debunked/
https://www.vpc.org/studies/myth.htm
 
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